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03-26-2013, 11:39 PM
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I have no interest in moving Yakupov right now. He's raw, but ridiculously talented.

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03-27-2013, 12:17 AM
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In 5 years, the Oilers would regret this trade. Big time.

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03-27-2013, 04:10 AM
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Of all the Kids on the Oilers, Yak is the most raw, but I also feel he has the highest upside, even more so than Hall. If the Organization doesn't screw him up that is (which they have been known to do)
It's so hard to put a value on him, because of that upside. We all know with experience and once he learns, he is going to be one hell of a player, but we don't know what level he will reach.
As to the OP, it would have to be a better offer, though I would do that for Hemsky. The Oilers would also have to send another contract, as they are at 49 right now, and have several contracts they need to get rid of.

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03-27-2013, 07:03 AM
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just for poops and giggles- what about gudbranson for yakupov?
I'd gag if that happened. Gudbranson has been godawful this season.

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03-27-2013, 07:11 AM
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To Florida:

Nail Yakupov

To Edmonton:

Dmitry Kulikov
Marcel Goc
oilers pass

for several reasons Goc is on year away from UFA, oilers already have Belanger and Horcoff as 3/4 centers with Lander bitting at their heals.

Kulikov while he hits does not have that much of pts up swing. While most oiler fans are annoyed at the Sheltered minutes Yakupov is playing, he shows signs of why he was taking first over all and he looks to be a guy who could be a top player in a few years

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03-27-2013, 07:18 AM
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I think this would be a mistake by the Oilers. Yakupov is still very raw, but he has huge upside, and when his game is a bit more polished he could end up being their best player.

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03-27-2013, 08:28 AM
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Im not sure why so many edmonton fans are already willing to trade this star in the making.

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03-27-2013, 08:44 AM
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Some would be willing to trade whoever it takes to make the team a little better now.

Doesn't make sense to me, personally.

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03-27-2013, 08:45 AM
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Tempting, but if Yakapov is to be traded it will be for a big top 6 forward, counter.

Nick Bjugstad for Yakupov
This is not even close.

Bjugstad is a very tempting prospect, but he is no where close to Yakupov in value.

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03-27-2013, 08:47 AM
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Im not sure why so many edmonton fans are already willing to trade this star in the making.
They aren't. Virtually every response from Oiler fans in this thread says the same thing. Trading Yakupov would be a mistake.

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03-27-2013, 08:51 AM
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Very fair value. Both sides should do it.
Agreed. Oilers fans won't like it, but it could be huge for them going forward to spread out their talent.

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03-27-2013, 08:52 AM
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Oilers pass.

What I don't get is that Kulikov gets thrown into every FLA proposal by our very own fans, like you guys are trying to run him out of town or something. Tallon thinks very highly of him if you haven't noticed by now.

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03-27-2013, 08:58 AM
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I totally get why Edmonton wouldn't do it because Yakupov is an exciting player, but this Kulikov kid is good.

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03-27-2013, 09:00 AM
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The Oilers would likely be better off to keep all their top guys and send out a massive offer-sheet to the next good rfa defenseman.

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03-27-2013, 10:55 AM
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To Florida:

Nail Yakupov

To Edmonton:

Dmitry Kulikov
Marcel Goc
I think the Yakipov for Kulikov is a starting point. I dont think Goc is what balances it out. Florida likely has to include 2 other players in this deal.

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03-27-2013, 10:57 AM
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Oilers pass.

What I don't get is that Kulikov gets thrown into every FLA proposal by our very own fans, like you guys are trying to run him out of town or something. Tallon thinks very highly of him if you haven't noticed by now.
I love Kulikov, he's been playing well lately and is only 22.. But if we're trading for the #1 pick in the previous draft, we'd have to give something. He plus Goc, who is a very capable center, and probably will get a late 1st or 2nd + at the deadline, seemed liked a fair deal.

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03-27-2013, 11:12 AM
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no thanks. yakupov is still finding the game out and his ceiling is very high. hes an extremely talented kid whos going to be good once he figures the nhl out.

its embarassing that oilers fans wanna trade him after 30 games. what if we traded hallsy in his first year? he like yakupov didnt have an overly strong rookie campaign. so whats the difference here? from what i can tell yakupov has an even higher ceiling than hall. his shot is ridiculous and both have that poise and drive to win.

a team that has problems scoring trading a potential offensive juggernaut? doesnt add up.

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03-27-2013, 11:35 AM
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Oilers say no. It's a bad deal in the long run

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03-27-2013, 11:36 AM
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To Florida:

Nail Yakupov

To Edmonton:

Dmitry Kulikov
Marcel Goc
Counter: Justin Schultz and Ryan Jones for Huberdeau....yea, it sucks doesnt it?

The Oilers don't need anymore 4th line centres(Goc would never play ahead of RNH,Gagner, or Horcoff) or 2nd pairing defenseman.

Everyone is still on the "Oilers need defense" bandwagon, even though its actually scoring that they need to get going. Trading Yakupov does not help this at all

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03-27-2013, 11:59 AM
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i do agree the value is a but kulikov is certainly a good starting point. i believe on the oilers he would be a top pairing d because the more physical D, who are slow-as-cold-molasses ala sutton, can't hurt.

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03-27-2013, 12:10 PM
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i do agree the value is a but kulikov is certainly a good starting point. i believe on the oilers he would be a top pairing d because the more physical D, who are slow-as-cold-molasses ala sutton, can't hurt.
Speaking of slow.... A) Smid and Petry are both more physical than Kulikov. B) Who's Sutton? Unless you're talking about Andy Sutton, who has retired and only played limited minutes last year.

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03-27-2013, 12:50 PM
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Counter: Justin Schultz and Ryan Jones for Huberdeau....yea, it sucks doesnt it?

The Oilers don't need anymore 4th line centres(Goc would never play ahead of RNH,Gagner, or Horcoff) or 2nd pairing defenseman.

Everyone is still on the "Oilers need defense" bandwagon, even though its actually scoring that they need to get going. Trading Yakupov does not help this at all
Actually, we do need a good 4th line center and some better d-men wouldn't be a horrible idea. Just not at the expense of Yakupov.

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03-27-2013, 01:03 PM
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Why not get right to it and go Yakupov for Huberdeau?

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03-27-2013, 01:16 PM
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To Florida:

Nail Yakupov

To Edmonton:

Dmitry Kulikov
Marcel Goc
Well your obviously a Florida fan because this is just bad, here is the first overall picks for the past 11 seasons:


2012

Nail Yakupov

RW

Sarnia (OHL)

Edmonton Oilers



2011

Ryan Nugent-Hopkins

C

Red Deer (WHL)

Edmonton Oilers



2010

Taylor Hall

LW

Windsor (OHL)

Edmonton Oilers



2009

John Tavares

C

London (OHL)

New York Islanders



2008

Steven Stamkos

C

Sarnia (OHL)

Tampa Bay Lightning



2007

Patrick Kane

RW

London (OHL)

Chicago Blackhawks



2006

Erik Johnson

D

NTDP 18 (USA)

St. Louis Blues



2005

Sidney Crosby

C

Rimouski Oceanic (QMJHL)

Pittsburgh Penguins



2004

Alexander Ovechkin

LW

Moscow Dynamo (Russia)

Washington Capitals



2003

Marc-Andre Fleury

G

Cape-Breton Screaming Eagles (QMJHL)

Pittsburgh Penguins



2002

Rick Nash

LW

London Knights (OHL)

Columbus Blue Jackets



2001

Ilya Kovalchuk




Whats the odds that Yakupov turns out NOT to be a star and atleast a point per game player? This is honestly one of the worst trades i have ever seen on here ever.....Marcel Goc is a nobody and his best season was 30 points and then Kulikov he is pretty good and has a bright future but he dosent make this trade good, a first overall pick, is a first overall pick and they dont get choosen at the top for no reason, Yak WILL 110 % be a star unless he has injury problems. Value right now is pretty close but in 10 years this will be a ******* joke of a proposal and Yak will be the best players by 1000 miles period

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03-27-2013, 01:17 PM
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Counter: Justin Schultz and Ryan Jones for Huberdeau....yea, it sucks doesnt it?

The Oilers don't need anymore 4th line centres(Goc would never play ahead of RNH,Gagner, or Horcoff) or 2nd pairing defenseman.

Everyone is still on the "Oilers need defense" bandwagon, even though its actually scoring that they need to get going. Trading Yakupov does not help this at all
Lol that trade is actually a good example of what the OP offered, And would Florida fans accept that? No.

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