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Picking the Sabres' Carcass at the Deadline (and Later?): HOW DARE YOU ASK FOR OTT

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03-27-2013, 01:19 AM
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Picking the Sabres' Carcass at the Deadline (and Later?): HOW DARE YOU ASK FOR OTT

I: THE SCENARIO



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The Sabres aren't a good team this year. That's not to say they're as bad as some would have you think, but they need changes. This season is the prime opportunity for a retool, which GM Darcy Regier has intimated as the strategy. They will be sellers at the deadline and have pieces that would be attractive to contenders. In all likelihood there will not be a firesale of major players (Miller, Vanek, Myers, Pominville). If it does happen, it won't be until the offseason.


II: THE NEEDS, IN ORDER OF IMPORTANCE

1) A two way center. The Sabres have a well-stocked cupboard of young, skilled centers in Hodgson/Ennis/Grigorenko. Their checking center lineup is sufficiently less impressive. Outside of Girgensons, who won't be up for a few years barring impressive development, it's a need in the pipeline and a huge need at the NHL level. Sabres would look for either a home-run swing Couturier type or settle for a player of Dominic Moore's ilk. In my mind this is the most pressing need for the team.


2) Defense. Myers has Norris potential but is experiencing growing pains. Ehrhoff is a good top-pair guy. Sekera a high-end second-pair, passable abover that. Outside of that, Leopold and Regehr will be gone next year. Weber is a fine 6/7. Pysyk/McNabb are young but promising. Still, next year looks like

Ehrhoff- Sekera
Myers - X
Weber -X
X

I don't believe Regier will slot Pysyk and McNabb in. At most, one will make it.

The need is top-4, but a younger, dependable bottom-6 guy will pass. A cheaper option might be a stopgap 5/6 veteran. Sabres can eat some salary.


3) Young speed at forward. Among the Sabres forward lineup is a distinct lack of speed. That's not to say the team can't skate, but there's not a top-gear guy who can stretch the ice, as it were. Catenacci is probably the best at this in the system and he's not ready.
Prospects who could crack the NHL in the next two years would be acceptable, but more developed players would be ideal. They don't need prime Gaborik, but something a little more substantive than Michel Ryan et al.


4) Goaltending. Miller is probably (I say probably) not in the long-term plans. Enroth has shown flashes but he's not ready to be a #1 if he ever will be. Makarov/Ullmark look promising but are far off from NHL play. Sabres might be willing to pay the price for a promising young goalie a la Lindback last year, but I'd bet on them going toward platooning Enroth with a cheap, capable veteran. In any case, this would be more likely to occur in the offseason.



III: Likely Available at the Deadline


Leopold (Rental): obviously not enough to garner top-flight compensation, but perhaps a fellow who needs a change of scenery?

Regehr (Rental): The most valuable of those likely to be traded. Would expect a good prospect in return, a bit more than the value received for Douglas Murray.

Stafford (Exp 2015): An enigma, but a 20 goal scorer per average over his career. Probably won't be traded short of overpayment.

Hecht (Rental): He's a good option for a checking/possession line. Should be relatively cheap.


IV: Possibly Available at the Deadline / Likely Available in the Offseason

Miller (Exp 2014): He's a great goalie in terms of consistency and workload. Put him behind a top-10 defense and he'd be remembered for his skill. Expect for some combination of youth (perhaps at goaltending) and at least one 1st round pick in return.

Pominville (Exp 2014): He's a top-30 scorer who's slumping this year. Competent defensively, but you wouldn't know it from 2012-13. Captain, would require a bit of overpayment in a package similar to Miller's.



V: Players You Might Want

Ott (Exp 2014): No, he's not untouchable. But he is uniquely valuable.

Ennis (RFA 2014): Probably the prime piece in acquiring a young two way center.


VI: Unlikely to Be Available

Vanek (Exp 2014): Doubt it. Sabres would look for a package befitting a player of his caliber (less than Kovalchuk/Hossa, more than Stewart).


VII: Will Almost Certainly Not Be Traded for Good Reasons

Hodgson

Grigorenko

Armia

Foligno

Myers

Sekera

Ehrhoff




VIII: Won't Be Traded for Other Reasons


Leino/Gerbe: Trading at minimum value is bad business.

Flynn/Kaleta/Porter/Weber/Enroth: You want these guys? What?

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I can see any Eastern team that hasn't given up on the conference following the pens trades interested in a Regehr + Ott package. Would be a nice counterpunch to Morrow and Murray.

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I can see any Eastern team that hasn't given up on the conference following the pens trades interested in a Regehr + Ott package. Would be a nice counterpunch to Morrow and Murray.
BOS: Probably would look in the neighborhood of Spooner and a high pick.

MTL: Above, but Leblanc.

OTT: Target Bishop/Lehner, I suppose?

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Bryan Allen, Nick Bonino and 2nd rounder for Robyn Regehr and Drew Stafford.

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I don't think Regier would move both of them for that package. What would just Regehr be worth to Anaheim?

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Do a straight Bryan Allen for Regehr swap.

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That's probably more of a sidegrade than the Sabres are hoping for, but who knows

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That's probably more of a sidegrade than the Sabres are hoping for, but who knows
True. But he's signed for a couple more years so you'd have someone there to help plug the whole.

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Eddie Lack + Brendan Gaunce + 1st for Pominville.

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Hypothetically, whats it take to bring Enroth to Calgary? Just curious.

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Myers can't live up to his big contract and phenominal entry level years.

Thats how we got Phaneuf, just saying...

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Regehr is personal favorite of mine lets make a deal

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Eddie Lack + Brendan Gaunce + 1st for Pominville.
Would love Pominville in Vancouver. Would be a great fit with either Kesler or the Sedins and a manageable enough cap hit through next season.

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Eddie Lack + Brendan Gaunce + 1st for Pominville.
Sounds good to me.

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Hypothetically, whats it take to bring Enroth to Calgary? Just curious.
Let's say that the above deal also occurred. In that case they'd probably be willing to overpay for Gaudreau. Off of the NHL roster Backlund and Gio would be targets.

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Thats how we got Phaneuf, just saying...

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Sure. Either Kadri/Gardiner and a pick.

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Regehr is personal favorite of mine lets make a deal
1st 2013?

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Nice job OP. One of the best thread introductions I have seen. Great explanation. Please feel free to start more thoughtful threads.

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Eddie Lack + Brendan Gaunce + 1st for Pominville.
I think Pominville's value is Gaunce + 1st, but not sure Canucks can afford to do this. Its tempting for sure. This could work great if Vancouver moved Luongo and were able to flip some assets.

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I'm not opposed to trading anybody on the roster, really. I'd say Hodgson is the most "untouchable" piece, but if I'm blown away by an offer, he can be had.

My goal, if I'm the GM, is to do whatever I can to make this team better in three+ years when the younger prospects are ready to impact the team.

Leopold for anything.

Regehr for anything younger and/or faster.

Stafford for anything

Gerbe for free

Hecht for any draft pick

Etcetera.

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I'm not opposed to trading anybody on the roster, really. I'd say Hodgson is the most "untouchable" piece, but if I'm blown away by an offer, he can be had.

My goal, if I'm the GM, is to do whatever I can to make this team better in three+ years when the younger prospects are ready to impact the team.

Leopold for anything.

Regehr for anything younger and/or faster.

Stafford for anything

Gerbe for free

Hecht for any draft pick

Etcetera.
Canucks would be interested in Stafford.

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Nice job OP. One of the best thread introductions I have seen. Great explanation. Please feel free to start more thoughtful threads.
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I think Pominville's value is Gaunce + 1st, but not sure Canucks can afford to do this. Its tempting for sure. This could work great if Vancouver moved Luongo and were able to flip some assets.
I don't particularly disagree, but I have a feeling the former offer is what Regier would first pursue.

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Canucks would be interested in Stafford.

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I'm down. Then again I'm also down on Stafford, so...

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I don't particularly disagree, but I have a feeling the former offer is what Regier would first pursue.



I'm down. Then again I'm also down on Stafford, so...
I hope that Canucks get the Stafford deal done. I think it's good value for both considering production + contract + term. Connauton was on AHL all star team last year, winning hardest shot competition I believe.

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1st 2013?
seriously? for Regehr? I was thinking more along the lines of a young cheap D like Holzer and a pick

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seriously? for Regehr? I was thinking more along the lines of a young cheap D like Holzer and a pick
Sabres would probably add to get it, but it seems the market would bear that high price looking at the deal for Murray. In terms of prospects, how about Finn?

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I would be interested in McNabb, but I don't imagine he's in a position to be included in this fire sale. And to reiterate what Numbers said earlier; excellent job on the OP. Very well done.

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Sabres would probably add to get it, but it seems the market would bear that high price looking at the deal for Murray. In terms of prospects, how about Finn?
I LOVED Regehr in Calgary but if you listen to sabre fans he's lost a step.

Holzer +Ashton? 2 NHL ready players for Regehr

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