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Oilers taking calls on Ales Hemsky

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03-29-2013, 09:10 AM
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I can see Hemsky + Whitney moving to Boston for Caron and a 1st. I can also tell you Oilers fans won't like that deal, and neither do I for Edmonton, but that may end up being the case.

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Correction - teams have been avoiding making a commitment to him because they know he is injury-prone, and they know he's not worth a 5M cap hit for a guy who has averaged playing only 46 games over the past three seasons.
Maybe do some research . He was injured for 2 years with shoulder problems . He been injury free for almost 2 years . most of last year and all of this year , getting close to 140 games . Yes he had minor things before , but he almost missed 2 years with the shoulder issue .
So by your statement Gardiner is worthless , he been Concussed and has not been able to crack the leafs line up since and going by stats the leafs D is worse then ours. Every GM laughs at the leafs value they put on the guy . He worth a 4 or 5 rd pick . See i can do it to . I covered the stats and the injury on your player .

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03-29-2013, 09:11 AM
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I can see Boston having an interest in him. Would probably cost them Malcolm Subban among others but right now Boston does need a winger in a big way.
There's no way they'd give up Subban for Hemsky. Hemsky will stay with the Oilers until he can be dealt as a rental for a contending team. The only team I can think that might be interested now would be Nashville.

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03-29-2013, 09:12 AM
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I can see Hemsky + Whitney moving to Boston for Caron and a 1st. I can also tell you Oilers fans won't like that deal, and neither do I for Edmonton, but that may end up being the case.
That's actually pretty realistic.

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I can see Boston having an interest in him. Would probably cost them Malcolm Subban among others but right now Boston does need a winger in a big way.
No chance Boston has any interest in Hemsky. look at their current and past rosters and you should be able to see that Hemsky is not a Bruins type of player. Hemsky still has another year left on his current contract that will hurt is trade value as well. If Hemsky is traded it will be next years TD.

And for Subban? Get real.

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03-29-2013, 09:22 AM
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The Oilers have repeatedly said that they haven't actively shopped Hemsky. Yet, the rumors about him are always there. Why? Because other teams want him, but don't want to pay the price, which is high because Hemsky is a great offensive player. Which is why teams continue to call and ask about him. You need to stop making things up.

Oh, and by the way, nice stat twisting. Picking and choosing numbers without depth explanations shows that you know nothing when it comes to Hemsky.

1. Ales Hemsky has had two major injuries in his career, his shoulders. Since he had his surgeries, he has only missed games due to recovery time, not injury. Despite taking some big hits.

2. Between two NHL seasons, the World Championships, and pro hockey in the Czech league, Hemsky has played over 100 games against professional players without getting injured. Not nearly the "injury prone" player you think. But nice try.
3. Last time i checked it was 132 games he played , so i think it getting close to 140 now . Almost 2 years worth of games

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03-29-2013, 09:26 AM
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After the Iginla deal EDM would be lucky to get a 2nd. Some of you need to get out of the old mentality that players are going to return a kings ransom. The cap structure has killed any chance of teams willing to trade the farm for players anymore. It's these young players making minimum that are worth more...especially for a player like Hemsky. Yes he's an good NHL player but he's no elite level player. Not even close.
After the Murray deal we should get 2 1st plus

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03-29-2013, 09:32 AM
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I can see Boston having an interest in him. Would probably cost them Malcolm Subban among others but right now Boston does need a winger in a big way.
I guess you know nothing . This makes us look bad . The BB GM has said he is not trading Subban . He is not the type of GM that will say something and do something else . People need to use some common sense when posting .

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After the Murray deal we should get 2 1st plus
Let us know how that turns out for you.

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Let us know how that turns out for you.
You haven't yet responded with anything to back up your claim that the Oilers have been trying to "dump" Hemsky for years.

Anyway, comparing this situation to the Iginla one is ridiculous because of how different the situations are. Literally nothing between them is similar.

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People need to use some common sense when posting .
You post this 6 minutes after suggesting Hemsky is worth two 1sts.

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You post this 6 minutes after suggesting Hemsky is worth two 1sts.
LOL. Crazy talk

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I can see Hemsky + Whitney moving to Boston for Caron and a 1st. I can also tell you Oilers fans won't like that deal, and neither do I for Edmonton, but that may end up being the case.
This sounds about right, perhaps Bartowski is included also.

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03-29-2013, 11:28 AM
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Edmonton should trade him. He will have little trade value next year, and they need some size anyways.

Note: Don't forget that EDM is only 3 points out of a playoff spot.

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03-29-2013, 11:33 AM
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would only trade for size, if not I wouldnt trade him, he is still a sick hockey player and looking as good as ever. Need him for a playoff push

Its hard to gauge value since he has had injury concerns, but on a contender he would add a very dynamic piece

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Edmonton should trade him. He will have little trade value next year, and they need some size anyways.

Note: Don't forget that EDM is only 3 points out of a playoff spot.
With Oilers being only 3pts out, you would think the Oilers would want to keep Hemsky and if a team wanted him they would have to pay a premium, a price that would help the Oilers this season and the Oilers future. If Hemsky remains healthy next season, you would think his value would increase.

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With Oilers being only 3pts out, you would think the Oilers would want to keep Hemsky and if a team wanted him they would have to pay a premium, a price that would help the Oilers this season and the Oilers future. If Hemsky remains healthy next season, you would think his value would increase.
If they win tonight the only trades I see will be picking up rentals for the playoffs.

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Edmonton should trade him. He will have little trade value next year, and they need some size anyways.

Note: Don't forget that EDM is only 3 points out of a playoff spot.
I hate to break it to Oiler fans, but this team still has to play Anaheim 3 times, Chicago, LA, Minnesota twice, Vancouver 3 times...it's really unlikely

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03-29-2013, 12:16 PM
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If they win tonight the only trades I see will be picking up rentals for the playoffs.
Looking at the schedule, I cannot see how anyone could see the Oilers making the playoffs. The remaining 15 games, 10 of them are against the Ducks(3), Canucks(3), Wild(2), Hawks(1) and the Kings(1). IMO you don't make trades for rentals with a schedule like that.

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I hate to break it to Oiler fans, but this team still has to play Anaheim 3 times, Chicago, LA, Minnesota twice, Vancouver 3 times...it's really unlikely
Agreed. I have no problem wheeling Hemmer for futures as long as we get a 1st in return. Anything beyond that would be great, but I don't expect it. I don't see us being that much better with him than without, in the sense that without him we could give Yak more ice-time/top 6 opportunities AND have a grittier player in the bottom 6.

The people that complain about picks or prospects as a return seem to overlook the fact that our current team make up just isn't working. We need more size, crash and bang in our bottom 6. Currently Yakupov is a 3rd liner. Not much to understand here. Hemsky could help a number of playoff bound teams lacking in skill, but he isn't the difference between us making it or not. A trade for a pick/prospect/both doesn't have to be about the future, they could be flipped again on draft day for a roster upgrade as teams prepare for UFA frenzy and a lowering cap. But it's all about timing, and right now the teams that would have interest in Hemmer aren't looking to subtract from their current roster. I value the roster spot (ie added ice time and role for Yakupov) as much as I value what we'd be getting in return for Hemmer.

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Agreed. I have no problem wheeling Hemmer for futures as long as we get a 1st in return. Anything beyond that would be great, but I don't expect it. I don't see us being that much better with him than without, in the sense that without him we could give Yak more ice-time/top 6 opportunities AND have a grittier player in the bottom 6.

The people that complain about picks or prospects as a return seem to overlook the fact that our current team make up just isn't working. We need more size, crash and bang in our bottom 6. Currently Yakupov is a 3rd liner. Not much to understand here. Hemsky could help a number of playoff bound teams lacking in skill, but he isn't the difference between us making it or not. A trade for a pick/prospect/both doesn't have to be about the future, they could be flipped again on draft day for a roster upgrade as teams prepare for UFA frenzy and a lowering cap. But it's all about timing, and right now the teams that would have interest in Hemmer aren't looking to subtract from their current roster. I value the roster spot (ie added ice time and role for Yakupov) as much as I value what we'd be getting in return for Hemmer.
People forget that picks can be trade also for players as well, I do agree about Yakupov.

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People forget that picks can be trade also for players as well, I do agree about Yakupov.
yeah absolutely, and i'd rather get a roster player in return, someone like a troy brouwer who can play in ur top 9, versatile with some real grit

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Blum or Josi are not options for the Oilers, Oilers have Marincin, and Gernat as LHS D in the system. Both skate well, above average puck handling skills, and big boming shots. The big question is how does Klefbom fit in next year. More important for the Oilers to fix the problem they have at C then their D.
Blum is a RHD and TBH beyond Klefbom and Marincin, I'm not holding out any hope that any of our other young D will be ready to make the big club in the next 2 seasons with the exception of Teubert as a #7.

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I hate to break it to Oiler fans, but this team still has to play Anaheim 3 times, Chicago, LA, Minnesota twice, Vancouver 3 times...it's really unlikely
Ouch, that's a tough schedule.

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Blum is a RHD and TBH beyond Klefbom and Marincin, I'm not holding out any hope that any of our other young D will be ready to make the big club in the next 2 seasons with the exception of Teubert as a #7.


Ouch, that's a tough schedule.
Not sold on Blum and the Oilers have more of a need of a PMD LHS D, since Petry and J.Schultz are both righties. Teubert needs to get his act together or he's going to be left behind. Your forgetting about Bigos, haven't heard much about him lately, but he could be a option, he's just has to stand in front of the net and nothing would get near it.

That's not including the games against the Flames and Coyotes, which are always tough.

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This sounds about right, perhaps Bartowski is included also.
Bartowski is an AHL defenseman and thats it........fugly

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Looking at the schedule, I cannot see how anyone could see the Oilers making the playoffs. The remaining 15 games, 10 of them are against the Ducks(3), Canucks(3), Wild(2), Hawks(1) and the Kings(1). IMO you don't make trades for rentals with a schedule like that.
Hawks should not be included when discussing the Oilers opposition. I could say the Canucks and Kings too. The terrific trio is back!

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