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03-28-2013, 11:23 PM
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I disagree. Bishop finds a way to regularly let pucks go five-hole. It's in part just due to his size.

Anyway, I think you'd be hard pressed to believe that this team's goaltending isn't being helped significantly by the D. We don't give up many high-quality chances.
http://www.the6thsens.com/2013-artic...fensively.html

It's a combination of both. Compared to last season, we give up less close in shots, and way more shots from the perimeter, but our goalies also have a ridiculously (and probably unsustainable) high SV% on shots from less than 10 ft.

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03-28-2013, 11:26 PM
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Where did anyone say that Lehner hasn't been great? He has been. I was just commenting and pointing out that it is my belief that outside of 2 bad games Bishop has been better and more solid/composed. Maybe that comes with age, or maybe it's his make-up, but I think he's been better outside of those two games (hence the 8 - 4 record and 1.7 GAA as well as 94.6 save % outside of those games, too).

Again, not saying that Lehner hasn't been great. He has been...I just feel like he still needs more seasoning whereas Bishop seems more ready for the NHL. Just my opinion though.



Sure...and if Lehner hadn't let in soft goals in almost every game he's played in, despite his other amazing saves, he could have had more than just 2 wins.
I know what you mean but I'd also easily argue that Bishop has let in just as many weak goals in the other games like the two against Buffalo.

Also, your last statement, so you're saying Lehner should have gotten straight shutouts? lol cause the only soft goals he has let in were the only goals he basically allowed.

Regardless, both great goalies but you're not giving Lehner enough credit.

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Anybody else think Nash is wishing he made a better choice? I know I would be if I were him.

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03-28-2013, 11:30 PM
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Anybody else think Nash is wishing he made a better choice? I know I would be if I were him.
He's probably thinking that he wishes Torterella wasn't the coach in Ny. Shouldn't be much of an issue. He's on borrowed time.

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03-28-2013, 11:32 PM
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03-28-2013, 11:41 PM
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I think it's important to keep in mind, with regards to Lehner, that half the games he's played have been against two of the elite teams in the conference, namely Montreal and Boston.

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03-28-2013, 11:43 PM
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I think it's important to keep in mind, with regards to Lehner, that half the games he's played have been against two of the elite teams in the conference, namely Montreal and Boston.
And there have been some games, like the last Tampa game that the Sens were NOT good, awful even, and he kept the score within reach.

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03-29-2013, 12:02 AM
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We have 3 number one goalies. This is bananas. I'm confident in any of these guys to start a game vs whomever we meet in the playoffs.

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03-29-2013, 12:04 AM
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Take away his two games in which he allowed 5 goals (Tampa, Toronto) and his GAA is 1.7...and a sv% of 94.6. That still includes the game in New York when Anderson got injured.

It's a small sample size anyway, but outside of those two games in which the whole team was pretty terrible defensively he has been more impressive than Lehner. He just doesn't have the same propensity for letting in soft goals at inopportune moments.
If you're going to do it for one, do it for the other.

Take out the two games Lehner has allowed 3 goals (his 2 ''worst'' games, which weren't bad games really).
SV%: 0.946
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03-29-2013, 12:33 AM
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03-29-2013, 12:55 AM
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Man I don't wanna trade any of our goalies I love them all so much
Agreed. To hell with it, hold on to them all for a little while longer. It's just so epic.
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03-29-2013, 01:21 AM
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03-29-2013, 02:36 AM
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Leaf fan here. I don't know if its the booze talking but I must say: you guys are blowing my mind.

Never would I have dreamed that a no Karlsson, Spezza, and Anderson lineup would produce a top 5 eastern conference team. Very impressive. I can only imagine how good you would be WITH them!

As much as I dislike you, I can't ignore an amazing performance.

Destroy those damn Habs

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03-29-2013, 02:45 AM
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And Zbad... You're also a beast...

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03-29-2013, 03:36 AM
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Leaf fan here. I don't know if its the booze talking but I must say: you guys are blowing my mind.

Never would I have dreamed that a no Karlsson, Spezza, and Anderson lineup would produce a top 5 eastern conference team. Very impressive. I can only imagine how good you would be WITH them!

As much as I dislike you, I can't ignore an amazing performance.

Destroy those damn Habs
Oh poor poor Michalek. The always forgotten 30 goal winger. Lol.

But it also amazes me everytime I watch this team. I am not sure what other team would be this resilient. It's amazing. I love it.

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03-29-2013, 04:23 AM
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Aaaaand the Isles are now tied with the Rangers in points (NYR has a game in hand mind you). Wouldn't it rock if the Islanders made the playoffs? That franchise needs it. Looking at their upcoming sched it's doable (aside from Saturday's game of course).

Islanders 15 remaining games
Sat, Mar 30 @ Pittsburgh 1:00 PM
Mon, Apr 1 @ New Jersey 7:00 PM
Tue, Apr 2 vs Winnipeg 7:00 PM
Thu, Apr 4 @ Washington 7:00 PM
Sat, Apr 6 vs Tampa Bay 7:00 PM
Tue, Apr 9 vs Philadelphia 7:00 PM
Thu, Apr 11 @ Boston 7:00 PM
Sat, Apr 13 vs NY Rangers 7:00 PM
Tue, Apr 16 vs Florida 7:00 PM
Thu, Apr 18 @ Toronto 7:00 PM
Sat, Apr 20 @ Winnipeg 3:00 PM
Tue, Apr 23 @ Carolina 7:00 PM
Thu, Apr 25 @ Philadelphia 7:00 PM
Fri, Apr 26 @ Buffalo 7:00 PM

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Mika now #7 in rookie scoring, Wierdcock #10 and Silfverbeast at #12

and 73 93 33 is starting to become a pretty good line.

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Aaaaand the Isles are now tied with the Rangers in points (NYR has a game in hand mind you). Wouldn't it rock if the Islanders made the playoffs? That franchise needs it. Looking at their upcoming sched it's doable (aside from Saturday's game of course).
Wow. Aside from a lengthy stretch on the road towards the end of the season, who wouldn't want that schedule? The Isles could very well make the post season. That would be great for Tavares.

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i didn't get to see the game tonight, so my question to all of you is:

how did hoffman look?
Good, looked like a promising NHL player with tons of speed and good hockey sense.

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03-29-2013, 06:45 AM
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and 73 93 33 is starting to become a pretty good line.
The 3 line!

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03-29-2013, 07:33 AM
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If you're going to do it for one, do it for the other.

Take out the two games Lehner has allowed 3 goals (his 2 ''worst'' games, which weren't bad games really).
SV%: 0.946
GAA: 1.83
Well I was just illustrating what Bishop has done outside of his bad games. I don't really consider Lehner to have had any bad games -- he just tends to let in soft goals after playing amazingly for long stretches. I'm sure it's more age and inexperience than anything, but I just feel like when Bishop is on (and he is most of the time) he's a little more solid. That's all -- Lehner has 4 years to catch up, but I hate the idea of trading either of them. I also don't want to trade Anderson so it's crazy the kind of fortunate yet unfortunate situation that we are in.

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Well I was just illustrating what Bishop has done outside of his bad games. I don't really consider Lehner to have had any bad games -- he just tends to let in soft goals after playing amazingly for long stretches. I'm sure it's more age and inexperience than anything, but I just feel like when Bishop is on (and he is most of the time) he's a little more solid. That's all -- Lehner has 4 years to catch up, but I hate the idea of trading either of them. I also don't want to trade Anderson so it's crazy the kind of fortunate yet unfortunate situation that we are in.
And we also have two top tenders in the CHL (Brassard,Driedger)

We are loaded at this position for the first time.

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Mika now #7 in rookie scoring, Wierdcock #10 and Silfverbeast at #12

and 73 + 93 + 33 is starting to become a pretty good line.
I got a 199 problems but this line ain't one. If you're having scoring problems I feel bad for you son.

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Well I was just illustrating what Bishop has done outside of his bad games. I don't really consider Lehner to have had any bad games -- he just tends to let in soft goals after playing amazingly for long stretches. I'm sure it's more age and inexperience than anything, but I just feel like when Bishop is on (and he is most of the time) he's a little more solid. That's all -- Lehner has 4 years to catch up, but I hate the idea of trading either of them. I also don't want to trade Anderson so it's crazy the kind of fortunate yet unfortunate situation that we are in.
I still feel like one will be traded. I feel like Lehner AND Bishop knows they could be a starter on many teams out there and likely won't want to be hanging out in the AHL.

Lehner can learn stuff up in the NHL that he needs to learn at this point.

To me the biggest thing is deciding WHO you want for your future: Lehner or Bishop? The one that you don't (as a coaching/management point of view) should be traded while their trade value is high.


That said, I'm so so so impressed with this team and the goalies! Its great to see. And I'd love love love to keep them ALL. I just think that Lehner and Bishop both deserve a shot in the NHL, and why not trade one while value is high.

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