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[CGY/PIT] Jarome Iginla for Kenneth Agostino, Ben Hanowski, 2013 1st rounder - Part 2

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03-28-2013, 12:43 PM
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Jay Feaster makes Scott Howson look like a genius. And that's no small feat!
I'm an Oilers fan so obviously I love to kick the Flames when they are down. Impossible for Feaster to get a good return for Iginla when he only had one team to negotiate with. Feaster and Chirelli agreed on a deal conditional on Iginla waiving his NTC. Iginla said no I want to go to Pittsburgh

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McKenzie said that the Flames liked BOS offer more(obviously) but Iginla had the final say.
So Iggy screwed the Flames and there fans, Why is nobody saying a word about that.

If he provided a list of 5 teams,
1. Pittsburgh
2. Boston
3. LA
4. Detroit
5. Chicago

Then that is all the say he should have, The team should be allowed to get the best Deal PERIOD. Thats B.S. from the player and agent.

If it was Pittsburgh all along, why have the list....of 5.

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they did but it did't matter as it seems like jaromes intentions were to go to pitt the whole time
No question about it. Craig Button making a fool of himself on TSN right now by saying if Jarome wanted to go to Pittsburgh, why would he have given a list of four teams?

What kind of bargaining power does Feaster have if Iginla comes out and says it is the Pens and only the Pens? He didn't have much to begin with even with a list of four.

Button is not a smart man.

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It's funny reading all these posts about how it was an awful deal for the Flames, that they didn't get enough or got ripped off. What the hell did fans here expect? Does no one pay attention to history here at all?

I said the same thing awhile ago when all this discussion started. Take a look at what rental players go for and the offers being suggested on the boards were ridiculous. We see this every time a star rental is dealt. It's not surprising or a rip off etc for the Flames here - this is the going rate for an aging veteran rental player in the NHL.

I said it in those discussions that Flames fans would be disappointed with the return that Iginla gets. He wasn't going to bring back a Bennett type player (which was being discussed at the time), or when talking about the Canucks (yes, he was NEVER going to be dealt to the Canucks) he wasn't going to return a Hansen type +. These type of assets never go for such players. Iginla got the return that you should expect for rentals like him - a 1st rounder which is obvious, and a couple of mid-range to decent prospects. This is what we see all the time. It shouldn't be a surprise.

The Flames got rental value for Iginla. Pittsburgh paid the expected rental price for him. Every single season I say the same thing on these boards when rental players come up, and every time such players get dealt fans talk about how it's a bad deal, they got ripped off, etc.

How many more players and more seasons of seeing rentals get moved before fans realize what rental value is?

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Someone's having a bad day. I'm not for being arrogant at all, but holy guacamole.
Agreed. Chill out man Jesus.

As for the trade, LOVE it on multiple levels, not the least of which how it all went down. Good luck Calgary with the rebuild, Penguins looking scary right now. And Boston...

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So Iggy screwed the Flames and there fans, Why is nobody saying a word about that.

If he provided a list of 5 teams,
1. Pittsburgh
2. Boston
3. LA
4. Detroit
5. Chicago

Then that is all the say he should have, The team should be allowed to get the best Deal PERIOD. Thats B.S. from the player and agent.

If it was Pittsburgh all along, why have the list....of 5.



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Iginla looks very happy. He can't stop smiling!

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So Iggy screwed the Flames and there fans, Why is nobody saying a word about that.

If he provided a list of 5 teams,
1. Pittsburgh
2. Boston
3. LA
4. Detroit
5. Chicago

Then that is all the say he should have, The team should be allowed to get the best Deal PERIOD. Thats B.S. from the player and agent.

If it was Pittsburgh all along, why have the list....of 5.
Posts like this are why players are willing to dig in and fight when they are in contact negotiations.

In my opinion, Iggy earned the right to go where he wanted to go. If anyone did, Iggy did.

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If this is the case, this makes me want Feaster gone more than anything. If anything, this makes him lose any respect he had remaining (if any at all). This is not how you negotiate with business partners - the idea is you keep them informed and not take the rug from under their feet at any given moment.
So Feaster is a hack for not holding out longer, but also for creating the illusion of a bidding war.. ...get a clue. Boston and Calgary are not business partners. They are competitors.

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So Iggy screwed the Flames and there fans, Why is nobody saying a word about that.

If he provided a list of 5 teams,
1. Pittsburgh
2. Boston
3. LA
4. Detroit
5. Chicago

Then that is all the say he should have, The team should be allowed to get the best Deal PERIOD. Thats B.S. from the player and agent.

If it was Pittsburgh all along, why have the list....of 5.
While I'm happy as a Pens fan, I agree with you. Of all the rumored trades, if the Kings really offered Bernier/Toffoli, I think that's the one I would've taken.

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Watching the presser now... there's no way you can dislike this guy. All the best Iggy.

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Posts like this are why players are willing to dig in and fight when they are in contact negotiations.

In my opinion, Iggy earned the right to go where he wanted to go. If anyone did, Iggy did.
Iggy earned what right? if it was Pittsburgh all along, why dangle other teams to Feaster.

Look I think Feaster is an IDIOT and a hypocrite. But he was obviously in a bind here. and I hate when players and there agents do this crap.

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03-28-2013, 12:50 PM
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So relieved he won't be in a Bruins jersey. Good luck Iggy, hope you get your cup now, and happy that I'm going to be able to cheer for you. Can't wait to see him in a Pens uniform.

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Hopefully Pittsburgh won't fall victim to having too much star power where nothing connects and almost everyone underachieves. Though right now they are rolling so I dont know
Doubt it. They added true character guys. They added two western conference captains aching to get their hands on their first cup.

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Iginla looks very happy. He can't stop smiling!
That's a hell of a contrast with Ryan Smyth years ago

Anyway it's pretty understandable why. Guy is 35 and this is probably his best chance wo win the cup before he retires.

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Iggy earned what right? if it was Pittsburgh all along, why dangle other teams to Feaster.

Look I think Feaster is an IDIOT and a hypocrite. But he was obviously in a bind here. and I hate when players and there agents do this crap.
and how do you know Iginla did any such thing. maybe he told feaster up front he wanted to go to Pitt and feaster leaked the list of 5 as well as the done deal with boston th drive up the price.

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iginla sounds like he's happy to be leaving lol

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Don't understand why Feaster has to make the trade a week before the deadline. If he hold on longer would he get more in return for Iginla? Teams tend to get desperate when it get closer to the deadline.

And this is the take of this trade from Puck Daddy:
"Feasterís getting roasted like a suckling pig for this return for Iginla."

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03-28-2013, 12:53 PM
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Iggy going to Pittsburgh to play with the two best players in the world?

Uhh...Datsyuk is in Detroit and Giroux is in Philly. Oh, boy. Is Iggy going to be disappointed!!!

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He looks like he's had the weight of the world lifted off his shoulders.

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So i wonder if Kipper still won't report if traded.

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God damn, Iggy is classy.

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God damn, Iggy is classy.
Seriously, what does this mean? How is he classy? For saying the default press conference things?

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