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[CGY/PIT] Jarome Iginla for Kenneth Agostino, Ben Hanowski, 2013 1st rounder - Part 2

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03-28-2013, 01:35 PM
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Verbal contracts are very much legitimate.
Then there wasn't a verbal contract in this case, otherwise Boston would legally have Iginla.

Check and mate. Nice try though.

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Then there wasn't a verbal contract in this case, otherwise Boston would legally have Iginla.

Check and mate. Nice try though.

No doubt. Weren't the Bruins saying that there was no deal done all day long yesterday?

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Sounds to me like maybe Feaster jumped the gun with accepting the Bruins offer.

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For someone posting on an internet forum, you sure dislike discussion. Do you understand the point of a forum?
I like meaningful discussion, not rants and crying. Just because you have a position and are typing words about it does not mean its valid or worthwhile.

Do you also understand the correlation between only BOS fans being sore about it and everyone else not? Can you grasp concepts like "objectivity" and "vested interest" and their impact on your so-called "discussion?"

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Not how business negotiations work. Boston were trying to bend Calgary over by offering conditional firsts and relatively weak prospects. People are suppossed to feal sorry for them? Throw the Flames a better offer, and their management will go to greater lengths to help you get a deal with Iggy done. Take a hard bargaining position, and the Flames will be less enthusiastic.

That's the way business works. Sorry Boston. As a Flames fan I would have lost it, if the return was conditional 1st plus mid-Russian prospect. The Pitts deal is much much better. Plus Iggy is more likely to win a cup and come back to Calgary.
Boston did not offer a conditional 1st. They offered a 1st. A solid 1st. Weak prospects. Hahaha. I've been around the last 4 out of the 5 Stanely Cup teams. Koko will be a solid great NHL player and Bart will be a 3rd pairing defenseman - he was the last player cut from the Bruins team. A team with lots of talent on it. Please...the offer was light years ahead of Pittsburgh's offer or 2 college players who don't even play in a competitive NCAA hockey program - they will probably only ever see limited NHL action if any at all. I'm a graduate of Boston College and I've been around Hobey Baker winners and guys drafted in the 1st round who have barely played any NHL games... A Yale player and St. Cloud player...I wont' tell you about those Yale and Dartmouth hockey players but look Hugh Jessiman and you'll figure it out!

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I like meaningful discussion, not rants and crying. Just because you have a position and are typing words about it does not mean its valid or worthwhile.

Do you also understand the correlation between only BOS fans being sore about it and everyone else not? Can you grasp concepts like "objectivity" and "vested interest" and their impact on your so-called "discussion?"
Not only Boston fans are sore about this. Stop making false claims.

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No doubt. Weren't the Bruins saying that there was no deal done all day long yesterday?
Yep-but Chia said there was a deal done today. A boston staff member even said it was done at the game last night.

So which is it?

It's all sour grapes. Plain and simple.

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Sounds to me like maybe Feaster jumped the gun with accepting the Bruins offer.
Uhhh...no it doesn't. Sounds like Boston and the media jumped the gun. Even then, Boston kept saying there was no deal last night, but is now stating there was. Sounds like Boston trying to save face for allowing a competitor to get the best asset this trade line.

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Boston did not offer a conditional 1st. They offered a 1st.
Proof, other than Chia's word?

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Yep-but Chia said there was a deal done today. A boston staff member even said it was done at the game last night.

So which is it?

It's all sour grapes. Plain and simple.

He either lied yesterday or today. Pretty sad they are having a presser to whine and moan.

Jeremy Jacob's team deserves all the bad breaks they get.

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It's business. Happens all the time.

There's a reason we have lawyers, contracts etc. Spoken words mean nothing.
You do know that oral contracts are generally valid and enforceable, right (not saying there was one here)?

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Neither have been to the playoffs in years.


This gift keeps on giving.
Wait, are you truly saying that you don't the Pens have about the best shot at winning the Cup, or making it there? They have the TWO best players in the world, with about the best supporting cast you can have and one of the deepest blue lines in the game.

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Then there wasn't a verbal contract in this case, otherwise Boston would legally have Iginla.

Check and mate. Nice try though.
Verbal contracts very rarely have any legal holding ground. FACT. Also fact Feaster told Boston at 12 pm yesterday they WON per Chiarelli's press conference. He's not making **** up - come on! I'm sure his phone records show they talked at 12 pm, along with all the outgoing 20 sec calls to Feaster after 5pm....

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Yep-but Chia said there was a deal done today. A boston staff member even said it was done at the game last night.

So which is it?

It's all sour grapes. Plain and simple.
All sour grapes, sure. I will admit I'm a little frustrated with the whole thing but I imagine the Bruins FO is livid.

I still contend that this is extremely bad business, and we will just have to agree to disagree.

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For a verbal agreement to be considered legal, there must be offer, acceptance, and consideration.

Also, all parties must be intent on making a deal. Iginla gave a non-legally binding list. Iginla wasn't intending on making a deal to go to Boston.

Plain and simple.

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Verbal contracts very rarely have any legal holding ground. FACT. Also fact Feaster told Boston at 12 pm yesterday they WON. I'm sure his phone records show so along with all the outgoing 20 sec calls to Feaster after 5pm....
So you are expecting legal action from BOS over this?

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2 best players in the world

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So you are expecting legal action from BOS over this?
Why not? Ottawa is getting CSI to prove Cooke intentionally cut EK.

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You do know that oral contracts are generally valid and enforceable, right (not saying there was one here)?
Again, those aren't just spoken words.

They all require 3 pieces-offer acceptance and consideration. Not to mention ALL PARTIES MUST BE WILLING TO DO THE DEAL. Iginla was not willing to do the deal.

This doesn't apply here.

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Verbal contracts very rarely have any legal holding ground. FACT. Also fact Feaster told Boston at 12 pm yesterday they WON per Chiarelli's press conference. He's not making **** up - come on! I'm sure his phone records show they talked at 12 pm, along with all the outgoing 20 sec calls to Feaster after 5pm....
Proves my point either way. Verbal contracts exist but are very rarely easy to enforce.

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2 best forwards easily.

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it was NEVER a cond 1st round pick.

TSN ****ed up so hard jesus

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Not only Boston fans are sore about this. Stop making false claims.
A lofty claim, and even if true, a large majority of the people upset with this are BOS fans, and that correlation can't be ignored. You can be technical as much as you'd like and miss the forest for the trees and again somehow insist that this is some travesty that everyone should be sad about, but... its not. And here you are...

Again, by all means, continue on your tirade. I'm not the one making myself screaming foul over a situation that I could not possibly hope to influence in any way, nor am I the one constantly grasping at straws to somehow justify their position to someone reminding them about the reality of the situation. I'm so sorry for your righteous outrage, and even moreso when I think about how futile it is.

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Verbal contracts very rarely have any legal holding ground. FACT. Also fact Feaster told Boston at 12 pm yesterday they WON per Chiarelli's press conference. He's not making **** up - come on! I'm sure his phone records show they talked at 12 pm, along with all the outgoing 20 sec calls to Feaster after 5pm....
This reminds me of Nylander signing with Edmonton. Until it hits the paper, it's all hearsay.

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We all know whining isn't their style so I think it's kind of funny how they're having a press conference for this.
This post is amazing

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