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Iginla Trade: Who's to blame?

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Jarome Iginla 68 36.36%
Jay Feaster 46 24.60%
Peter Chiarelli 13 6.95%
All of the above 8 4.28%
Some of the above (please explain) 11 5.88%
No one / some one else 41 21.93%
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03-29-2013, 10:04 AM
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Iginla Trade: Who's to blame?

Who's to blame for the Iginla trade debacle?

Peter Chiarelli Press Conference:

http://t.co/u375swFO07

Bob McCown with Flames President & CEO Ken King:

http://bcove.me/0q1ablbe

Interview with Calgary GM Jay Feaster:

http://video.tsn.ca/?dl=pipe42/latest/1/0/894186/clip/0

Bob McCown on Jarome Iginla:

http://pmd.fan590.com/podcasts/pts/P...03-28-4-pm.mp3

http://pmd.fan590.com/podcasts/pts/P...03-28-5-pm.mp3

http://pmd.fan590.com/podcasts/pts/P...03-28-6-pm.mp3

http://feeds.feedburner.com/fan590primetimesports

The first Bob McCowan podcast is a nice summary of what happened.

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The media if anybody, this is being blown way out of proportion

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Calgary ownership. They appear to have been pushing those idiotic short term moves to prop up a lame duck team. By the time they come to their senses and decide to throw in the towel; Iginla is 35yo and 82nd in scoring... a depreciating asset who wasn't able to kick start a rebuild the way he could have 2 or 3 years ago.

The future looks bleak.

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I'm going to go with "some of the above."

In hindsight this is easy to say, but Jay Feaster obviously counted on Jerome Iginla to keep to his word on his list of 4 teams he provided Jay. When the deal came through, Jerome had a change of mind and solely wanted to go to Pittsburgh. Binding Jay's hands and having to make the deal with Pittsburgh. Chia has no fault in this.

That's another mistake Jay made, when Jerome said, "Hey Jay, I want to go to Pittsburgh, I changed my mind," Jay should have said, "Alright Jerome, I respect your decision, but we should just take a step back here, regroup, then go at this again." They had the time too. Or say "But Jerome, you said you would go to one of these 4 teams, I'm trading you to the Boston Bruins because that is the best deal for my franchise." Jerome is no a man of his word, and I don't have much respect for him. He didn't play for me for 16 years so I don't see why I have to like him.

I'm over this, to me we're just beating a dead horse here and need to move on to who is the next guy we go after. EDIT: By "we" I mean the Boston Bruins.

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The media if anybody, this is being blown way out of proportion
This.

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Feaster. You don't tell another team they have a player with a NTC without checking with that player first.

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I'm going to go with "some of the above."

In hindsight this is easy to say, but Jay Feaster obviously counted on Jerome Iginla to keep to his word on his list of 4 teams he provided Jay. When the deal came through, Jerome had a change of mind and solely wanted to go to Pittsburgh. Binding Jay's hands and having to make the deal with Pittsburgh. Chia has no fault in this.

That's another mistake Jay made, when Jerome said, "Hey Jay, I want to go to Pittsburgh, I changed my mind," Jay should have said, "Alright Jerome, I respect your decision, but we should just take a step back here, regroup, then go at this again." They had the time too. Or say "But Jerome, you said you would go to one of these 4 teams, I'm trading you to the Boston Bruins because that is the best deal for my franchise." Jerome is no a man of his word, and I don't have much respect for him. He didn't play for me for 16 years so I don't see why I have to like him.

I'm over this, to me we're just beating a dead horse here and need to move on to who is the next guy we go after. EDIT: By "we" I mean the Boston Bruins.
Except that's not what happened. You can lie all you want, but it doesn't change the facts.

Feaster had two acceptable deals and ALLOWED Iginla to choose. It's not Iginla's fault that the media and Feaster screwed up.

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Iginla: For having such a short list he'd waive to.
Feaster: For not being willing to trade Iginla to Vancouver or LA as they're in division next year.

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Nobody is to blame.

Iginla wanted to go to a better team. Pittsburgh > Boston.

Would you rather play with Crosby or Malkin or Krejci, Bergeron?

Pretty obvious to me.

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Iginla: For having such a short list he'd waive to.
Feaster: For not being willing to trade Iginla to Vancouver or LA as they're in division next year.
Iginla has a NMC in his contract, he's well within his rights to only accept a trade to one team or not accept a trade at all.


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Whoever signed Iginla to a NMC...they are responsible...but hardly to blame

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I say both Iginla and Feaster acted in poor faith, and you can rest assured this has noticed by the rest of the league. Boston losses now but the big lossers will be Calgary and perhaps Iginla when he goes for a new contract. Bush league moves like these DO NOT go unnoticed

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Except that's not what happened. You can lie all you want, but it doesn't change the facts.

Feaster had two acceptable deals and ALLOWED Iginla to choose. It's not Iginla's fault that the media and Feaster screwed up.
Are you saying he had the choice to choose because Feaster didn't get his signature on that he would waive his NMC to the 4 teams he listed? If so, you just proved my point. So I thank you.

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how exactly will Iggy lose out? teams are going to be clamouring for his signature come July 1st.

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Iginla.

Feaster was put into a tough spot. He should have forced Jarome to stick to his word regarding the 4 teams he had previously said he would accept a trade to.

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Are you saying he had the choice to choose because Feaster didn't get his signature on that he would waive his NMC to the 4 teams he listed? If so, you just proved my point. So I thank you.
Iginla gave 4 teams he would be willing to go to

Feaster got 2 acceptable offers

Feaster wanted Iginla to decide between the two teams

Iginla decided



I feel like no one here has actually read the CBA article relating to NMC.

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Iginla.

Feaster was put into a tough spot. He should have forced Jarome to stick to his word regarding the 4 teams he had previously said he would accept a trade to.
You're assuming that Jarome gave a list of 4 teams, stated that he'd take a trade to any of those teams and that he didn't favour one team over another.

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Feaster. You don't tell another team they have a player with a NTC without checking with that player first.
Even though Iginla had given a list of 4 Teams that he was willing to be traded to?

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Except that's not what happened. You can lie all you want, but it doesn't change the facts.

Feaster had two acceptable deals and ALLOWED Iginla to choose. It's not Iginla's fault that the media and Feaster screwed up.
Yeah right they did Not allow Iginla to choose.

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Even though Iginla had given a list of 4 Teams that he was willing to be traded to?
you're assuming Iginla said that he'd accept a trade to whichever of those 4 teams and that he wouldn't want to choose if there were multiple offers.

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you're assuming Iginla said that he'd accept a trade to whichever of those 4 teams and that he wouldn't want to choose if there were multiple offers.
I'm not assuming anything. Ken King said that Iginla agreed to be traded to 4 Teams. The interview is in the OP.

The interview is also in the Bob Macown podcasts in the OP.

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I'm not assuming anything. Ken King said that Iginla agreed to be traded to 4 Teams. The interview is in the OP.

The interview is also in the Bob Macown podcast in the OP.
Does he say that Iginla wouldn't want to choose if there were multiple offers? It's a moot point anyway as he had a NMC which gave him complete control of the situation.

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I would like to suggest its Feaster but it was Sutter before him too. I look to ownership telling these guys not to go full rebuild. The trades the gms made to improve the team backfired . But most importantly, their player development is virtually non existent. They need to restructure their entire organization like the Canucks did ten years ago and learn to develop its players from draft day onwards.

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Easily Jerome's

He went back on his word. A man is only as good his word.

If he wanted to play in Pittsburgh and Pittsburgh only he should have just said that in the first place.

Making the other teams GMs and his own go through the circus was entirely disingenuous on Jerome's part.

As a 16 year vet he was aware of the process taking place.

I use to be a huge fan of Jerome but I no longer see him as a honorable person.

He screwed over his GM, Boston's GM and the young players Boston had offered in the deal.

If you give a list of teams to your GM you stick to your word.

Ken King who I believe is the President and Ceo of Calgary agreed with Bob McCowen that the idea situation next time is to

Get the player to sign an amendment to his contract stating which teams he would accept and therefore must be held to that contract going forward.

This is how he Screwed over Calgary.

It really that simple.

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