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03-30-2013, 01:36 AM
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03-30-2013, 01:56 AM
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I think fans care more for stats than the players. I doubt Lehtonen cares at all about who got the win on the stat sheet. So I don't really see a need to go around changing how this stat gets recorded, especially when it was under such an unusual circumstance.


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03-30-2013, 02:31 AM
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If we're gonna change the system based on a flukey outcome, you have to make sure the new system is immune to flukey outcomes. Crazy hypotheticals are needed!

Let's say the starter gets a bad case of boneitis and has to leave the game.
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I think fans care more for stats than the players. I doubt Lehtonen cares at all about who got the win on the stat sheet. So I don't really see a need to go around changing how this stat gets recorded, especially when it was under such an unusual circumstance.
I get what you're saying here, but you can't say players don't care about their stats, and I understand the whole team concept thing, but as a player myself I'd be pretty pissed if I did all the work and someone else got credited with my win.

And I know it's just one win but what looks better come contract time a goalie who's won 30 games or a goalie who's won 29. I'm making a bigger deal then what it is, but if I was Lehtonen I'd care a little if I did all the work and someone who came in for 2 minutes got credited with my win.

Haha sorry it's late and I've rambled.

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So wins and losses are determined by which goalie is on for the game-winning goal or game-losing goal? Never knew that. I wondered why Chris Mason was picking up a bunch of losses for Nashville.

Why aren't wins just based on who gives up the most goals (credited with the loss) or the fewest goals (credited with the win)?

And if they give up the same amount of goals then whoever gives up the game-losing goal-against gets the loss and vice versa for the game-winning goal in a win.

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So wins and losses are determined by which goalie is on for the game-winning goal or game-losing goal? Never knew that. I wondered why Chris Mason was picking up a bunch of losses for Nashville.

Why aren't wins just based on who gives up the most goals (credited with the loss) or the fewest goals (credited with the win)?

And if they give up the same amount of goals then whoever gives up the game-losing goal-against gets the loss and vice versa for the game-winning goal in a win.
Technically speaking Bachman gave up fewer goals since he did face 0 shots I think u meant had more saves

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This discussion is why fantasy sports have ruined actual spectator sports.

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Bachman for vezina. Nmind just rename it the bachman.

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It's flawed to give goaltenders wins.
Exactly.

Fantasy is the only reason people give a crap.

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Well deserved win.

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03-30-2013, 09:57 AM
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Bachman and Glennie, what doesn't Dallas have?

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03-30-2013, 10:31 AM
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How could you change it to make it any more fair? There is always a chance of a fluke happening.
I always supported making it closer to baseball's rules - the pitcher of record there doesn't change unless the lead changes.

i.e. if the starting pitcher leaves the game with a 2-1 lead in the 6th inning and his team scores more runs in the next inning to make it, say, 6-1 he doesn't lose being the pitcher of record if the other team scores a run to make it 6-2, only if the game becomes tied.

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Who cares? Wins is a useless stat anyway.

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I always supported making it closer to baseball's rules - the pitcher of record there doesn't change unless the lead changes.

i.e. if the starting pitcher leaves the game with a 2-1 lead in the 6th inning and his team scores more runs in the next inning to make it, say, 6-1 he doesn't lose being the pitcher of record if the other team scores a run to make it 6-2, only if the game becomes tied.
Exactly.

That way, that Canes goalie (Murphy?) would not get a loss while not giving up any goal...

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03-30-2013, 02:15 PM
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0 save win?

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Undf sv%

Yeesh. Bachman can start making black holes and other issues with singularity with that save percentage.

I guess that's how he did it: he made black holes and the pucks just disappear.
Clearly you've never heard of the infinite save percentage, sought by many and until last night found by none. With such power, one would hope Bachman learns to use it for good rather than nefarious purposes.

You are at least half right however, because it is rumored by achieving the infinite save percentage one might be capable of producing black 5 holes which consume all in their path.

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03-30-2013, 03:00 PM
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Clearly you've never heard of the infinite save percentage, sought by many and until last night found by none. With such power, one would hope Bachman learns to use it for good rather than nefarious purposes.

You are at least half right however, because it is rumored by achieving the infinite save percentage one might be capable of producing black 5 holes which consume all in their path.
Until now only one player had harnessed such power!



For it to manifest in a goaltender, we must truly be approaching the end times...

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03-30-2013, 03:34 PM
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This discussion is why fantasy sports have ruined actual spectator sports.
I don't see how this ruins anything or how it could possibly affect your enjoyment of the sport, you're just complaining for the sake of complaining.

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03-30-2013, 03:36 PM
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My yahoo league awarded the win to lehtonen

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03-30-2013, 04:21 PM
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It's not really a rule, it's a stat thing...so it doesn't matter how you calculate it. Just have to interpret it right in the right context.

IMO it should be like in Baseball for pitchers--goalie that is in when the winning team took the lead for good is credited with the win or loss (and that goal that gave the winning team the lead for good is the GWG). But at the end of the day it make no difference, just for the stat geeks.

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If we're gonna change the system based on a flukey outcome, you have to make sure the new system is immune to flukey outcomes. Crazy hypotheticals are needed!

Let's say the starter gets a bad case of boneitis and has to leave the game.
Well maybe this starter spent too much time being an '80s guy. In fact, I don't think he'll care about whether he gets a win or loss. His only regret will be... that he has... boneitis.

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