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03-31-2013, 01:34 PM
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Man, none of these updates are helpful since they're all so ****ing vague. I need more details before I decide to pull all my hair out (i'm pretty close to doing that though).
Kypreos: Hockey Shmokey update: Out indefinatly with head surgery

Might take a while, they need to place every single hair back on your head.

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Personally I dunno what's more upsetting....

The fact that Crosby is now "out indefinitely" or the fact that we actually won the Iggy trade (and finally got Sid his winger even if it's just temporary) but now Sid might not be around to reap the benefit of it.

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random medical forum:

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By Jonathan Cluett, M.D

Definition: A fracture is a broken bone. A broken bone is a fracture.
While many people believe that a fracture is a "hairline break," or a certain type of broken bone, this is not true. A fracture and a broken bone are the same thing!

Both of these words mean that the normal bone architecture has been disrupted. This does not imply a certain type of treatment, but in general, bones heal best when immobilized. Therefore treatment often involves casting of the broken bone (or fracture) and may require surgery to fix the bone into place (see O.R.I.F.).

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I called all of this yesterday...after watching the replay, I said that it looked like a facial injury. But I'm not a doctor/dentist so take my opinion FWIW
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SIDNEY, SID! Put your rehab on hold, THERE IS AN ARGUMENT ON SEMANTICS GOING ON!

Okay, guys. Feel free to focus on the important stuff, now. Break. Fracture. Let's go.

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If there were concussion symptoms, I'm guessing there would have been a vague leak about it by now.

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Will DePaoli ‏@TIOPS_DePaoli 20m
Word on Crosby is that he will miss at least a couple weeks. Injury more than missing just a couple teeth. #Penguins

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New Post: Crosby to be sidelined for a few weeks after oral/jaw surgery http://*******/118cnL7

TIOPS but still....

Likely won't win the scoring title.

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I'm still having a hard time figuring out how a puck to the teeth is going to break a jaw...maybe a fracture at most, but a full out separation? The only place I can see a bone separation happening is at the jaw joint, which is highly unlikely...

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TIOPS makes Rossi look like Bob McKenzie.

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Nah, I think (and this is from how the corresponding German words (Bruch vs. Fraktur) are used, so I could be completely out to lunch here), that a break is always a fracture, but a fracture does not have to be a true break. As in a break is clean through, two seperated parts of bone. A frature can just be like a crack? For lack of a better English word right now.

I understand how you're thinking and it's easy to think like that -

However

A break is a laymans term because it is not used in any form of clinical form to describe the breakage of a bone (i.e a fracture) It is mearly a word that's used to easily describe the nature of a fracture. When people think of a broken bone they envision a complete breakage (as you say - two parts, apart from each other) it looks like there's a clean break, hence the word break.

If you talk to a clinician however and they're talking to you about a fracture, it means a breakage of the bone, the nature of the breakage is then further described, but the word fracture is always clinically correct if you're speaking of bone breaking. This includes the splinter fractures and bend fractures (greenstick fractures etc) That you thought about when talking about fractures.

Now we're way off-topic. I hope you understand!

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Dude what are you talking about.
Rambling mostly...

Trying to figure out what kind of jaw break this could be compared to what I've experienced...and discounting any ****ing notion he could get a concussion from this

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Will DePaoli ‏@TIOPS_DePaoli 20m
Word on Crosby is that he will miss at least a couple weeks. Injury more than missing just a couple teeth. #Penguins

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New Post: Crosby to be sidelined for a few weeks after oral/jaw surgery http://*******/118cnL7

TIOPS but still....

Likely won't win the scoring title.
They saw the tweet from Kyp and decided to post that because they get more viewers that way. Kyp just said the obvious, out indefinatly and still waiting for a detailed update.

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Someone asked Shelly about the Kypreos report and her response was " Nothing really new there. Had oral surgery. No timetable. Waiting for anything further."

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I don't think there's any worry of a concussion right now, guys... it's damage to the jaw.

And I'm not a doctor, but if there were concussion symptoms, would they put him under that day?

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Let's say he's out for next 7 games of 12, he still would have 5 regular season games to take over Stamkos. It would be hard though.

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TIOPS but still....

Likely won't win the scoring title.
TIOPS is about as credible as Rossi.

As for Sid probably missing some time, how is anyone surprised? He took a slapper right in the mug. We already knew he had surgery and is going to need some time for it to heal before he can play again. It doesn't mean he's braindead from his umpteenth concussion. Good thing is that the playoffs are still weeks away and the team has a sizable lead in the conference race.

Did people think he was going to be back in the line-up Tuesday or something?

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sadly he's becoming too much like lemieux in the sense he only plays half the games he's scheduled to.

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SIDNEY CROSBY UPDATE: Out indefinitely after having surgery Saturday for a broken jaw.
http://twitter.com/penguins/statuses/318433720363270144

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Someone asked Shelly about the Kypreos report and her response was " Nothing really new there. Had oral surgery. No timetable. Waiting for anything further."
I'm sure everyone knows he's out indefinatly, indefinatly just means that....no idea on return, because no details have been brought out since yesterday about oral surgery.

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Someone asked Shelly about the Kypreos report and her response was " Nothing really new there. Had oral surgery. No timetable. Waiting for anything further."
We should learn our lesson about media wanting to break news first after the "Iginla to Bruins. Done deal." stuff.

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Trade for Stamkos, put him with Glass. Crosby wins Art Ross.

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I don't think there's any worry of a concussion right now, guys... it's damage to the jaw.

And I'm not a doctor, but if there were concussion symptoms, would they put him under that day?
Yeah, I wouldn't think so.

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Can't he just wear one of those Paul Coffey jaw protecting helmet things...that was neat

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Per request, the first post in this thread (and its successors) will be updated with the latest we have on each player. Now that we have a high-profile injury to deal with like this, the reliable info can get lost in the shuffle otherwise.

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But who's played 3 days after suffering a broken jaw -_-
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Rick Tocchet does not fit in with the majority of us. On March 15th, 1992, Tocchet suffered a fractured jaw in the first period. Not only did he continue to play that night, but he scored two goals including the game winner. To Tocchet, it is just part of the game. "We were .500 at the time, you want to play and you want to try to win. It's amazing when you have adrenaline. The next day I was obviously in pain, but during the game you just don't think about it."
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