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04-19-2013, 10:25 AM
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Morrow - Sutter - Dupuis looked great together last game. I hope Bylsma noticed that and keeps them together.
me too. That means juice or bennett needs to play with Geno. not sure I see that happening

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04-19-2013, 12:29 PM
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This isn't my preference but I suspect if everybody is ready to go the Game 1 lineup will be this:

Kunitz-Crosby-Dupuis
Neal-Malkin-Iginla
Morrow-Sutter-Cooke
Glass-Adams-Jokinen/Bennett

Orpik-Martin
Eaton-Letang
Murray-Niskanen

With so many options, though, I doubt our lineup stays the same for more than two games in a row throughout the postseason.

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04-19-2013, 12:51 PM
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This isn't my preference but I suspect if everybody is ready to go the Game 1 lineup will be this:

Kunitz-Crosby-Dupuis
Neal-Malkin-Iginla
Morrow-Sutter-Cooke
Glass-Adams-Jokinen/Bennett

Orpik-Martin
Eaton-Letang
Murray-Niskanen

With so many options, though, I doubt our lineup stays the same for more than two games in a row throughout the postseason.
If Craig Adams plays center on a healthy roster, I may throw up

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04-20-2013, 07:23 PM
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In the name of not upsetting the balance:

Malkin-Crosby-Neal
Kunitz-Jokinen-Iginla
Morrow-Sutter-Bennett
Cooke-Vitale-Dupuis

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04-20-2013, 07:29 PM
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In the name of not upsetting the balance:

Malkin-Crosby-Neal
Kunitz-Jokinen-Iginla
Morrow-Sutter-Bennett
Cooke-Vitale-Dupuis
As was said before, if Jokinen is our #2 center, Jordan Staal may kill himself.

Also there is no way in hell Dupuis plays on line 4. There is no way in hell Vitale plays instead of Adams too.

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04-20-2013, 07:32 PM
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As was said before, if Jokinen is our #2 center, Jordan Staal may kill himself.
based on what i've heard about his stints in Dallas and Carolina, Jokinen seems like a mood player. i've noticed that in most of his post-game interviews he makes reference to the fact that with great ice-time and great line-mates comes the responsibility to produce. keeping feeding him ice-time until he stops producing. that said, i'd keep him centering the third-line and deploy Sutter as a fourth-line shutdown guy.

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04-20-2013, 07:37 PM
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based on what i've heard about his stints in Dallas and Carolina, Jokinen seems like a mood player. i've noticed that in most of his post-game interviews he makes reference to the fact that with great ice-time and great line-mates comes the responsibility to produce. keeping feeding him ice-time until he stops producing. that said, i'd keep him centering the third-line and deploy Sutter as a fourth-line shutdown guy.
I tend to agree with you as well. Crosby, Malkin, Jokinen, and Sutter should be our 4 centers in that order.

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04-20-2013, 07:57 PM
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based on what i've heard about his stints in Dallas and Carolina, Jokinen seems like a mood player. i've noticed that in most of his post-game interviews he makes reference to the fact that with great ice-time and great line-mates comes the responsibility to produce. keeping feeding him ice-time until he stops producing. that said, i'd keep him centering the third-line and deploy Sutter as a fourth-line shutdown guy.
I like him with Morrow and Dupuis as our 3rd line once we are healthy. I don't think he can be upset with that. Even if one of them is replaced with Bennett, that's very solid.

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04-20-2013, 08:02 PM
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it should be really simple.... these make the most sense to start

Dupuis-Crosby-Iginla
Kunitz-Malkin-Neal
Morrow-Sutter-Cooke
Bennett-Jokinen (12th forward can be rotated between Kennedy, Glass, and Adams with whoever plays well staying in)

Kunitz, Dupuis, Jokinen, Cooke, and Sutter can kill penalties if Adams/Glass are not in the lineup

Bennett and Jokinen can be shifted up and down the lineup at times as well as have Crosby/Malkin double shift between them..... they also can form a solid 4th line with one of Kennedy/Glass/Adams....


add to that, the pens have crazy versatility available....

if Bylsma wants to run Geno/Sid out together at times, they can roll with...

Crosby/Malkin and any of Neal/Iginla/Kunitz
Sutter/Jokinen with 2 of Neal/Iginla/Kunitz

then have a 3rd line at times of Morrow-Jokinen/Sutter-Dupuis (which has really played well together)


bottom line is, if this team ever gets 100%, they are crazy deep and talented

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04-20-2013, 08:04 PM
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I have to take the time to say I am amazed at what Shero did at the deadline. we went from scrounging to find a legit top six winger to having a glut of every type of forward.

Lets look at our lineup (positions are bunk cause i pulled them off the pens page... Tk, for example, is about as much a center as I am,lol)

C #87 Sidney Crosby -L - Top two center, duh
C #71 Evgeni Malkin -L - Top two center, duh
C #16 Brandon Sutter -R - Defensive center, PK guy
C #46 Joe Vitale -R - Valuable fourth line center
C #17 Dustin Jeffrey -L - All purpose forward, can fill in as needed

RW #12 Jarome Iginla -R - HOF Sniper
LW #18 James Neal -L - Top 6 Sniper
LW #14 Chris Kunitz -L - Top 6 winger
RW #9 Pascal Dupuis -L - Star top 9 forward… can go on any line
LW #10 Brenden Morrow -L - Third line center
LW #36 Jussi Jokinen -L - All purpose talent
LW #24 Matt Cooke -L - Agitator with some skill, PK
RW #19 Beau Bennett -R - Rookie Soooperstar in the making…
RW #27 Craig Adams -R - 4th line grinder
C #48 Tyler Kennedy -R - Energy forward, can play on bottom two lines
C #15 Tanner Glass -L - Checking line forward/PK
LW #33 Steve MacIntyre -L - Fighter Extrodinaire

D #58 Kris Letang -R - Superstar defenseman
D #7 Paul Martin -L - Second best defenseman on the team this year
D #2 Matt Niskanen -R - Puck moving defenseman
D #3 Douglas Murray -L - Immovable object
D #44 Brooks Orpik -L - Physical Defensive defenseman
D #4 Mark Eaton -L - Veteran all purpose defenseman
D #5 Deryk Engelland -R - Physical Defensive defenseman
D #47 Simon Despres -L - Rookie all purpose defenseman
D #41 Robert Bortuzzo -R - Rookie big defensive defenseman

Thats 26 skaters for 18 spots. 3 defensemen will sit... most likely England, Despres, and Bortuzzo...

At forward its anyones guess. Guys like Glass and Adams will probably get spots over Bennet and Vitale.

The possibilities are endless, for example, you could start with a third line of Cooke, Sutter, and Dupruis, which would be a killer defensive line with as much offensive capabilities as most second lines, or you could go with Morrow, Jussy and Cooke, and make it a matchup nightmare for other squads.
You could roll a 4th line with Vitale, Bennet , and Kennedy, and have the most offensive fourth line in the playoffs, or roll with Glass, Adams, and Macintire and have the most brutal 4th line both in (physical play and skill wise, lol.)
Sutter could be the center of the 4th line in some scenerios...

Jussy could center or he could play a top 6 wing and ensure a second faceoff guy is out there.
I mean when everyone is healthy, there will be multiple major contribuors scratched for this team every game... its just unreal...
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04-21-2013, 03:43 AM
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There's no way
Kunitz - Crosby - Dupuis
won't play together in the post-season. Simply no way.

I'd say:

Kunitz - Crosby - Dupuis
Neal - Malkin - Iginla
Morrow - Sutter - Jokinen
Cooke - Vitale - Bennett

But I don't think it will happen.

The most important part though is that Tyler Kennedy is a healthy scratch!
Really can't stand watching this guy anymore...

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04-21-2013, 09:20 AM
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There's no way
Kunitz - Crosby - Dupuis
won't play together in the post-season. Simply no way.

I'd say:

Kunitz - Crosby - Dupuis
Neal - Malkin - Iginla
Morrow - Sutter - Jokinen
Cooke - Vitale - Bennett

But I don't think it will happen.

The most important part though is that Tyler Kennedy is a healthy scratch!
Really can't stand watching this guy anymore...
There is a way, and it should happen.

Iginla should play in his natural spot with Sidney Crosby.

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04-21-2013, 09:30 AM
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Beau has to be in the line-up. Dude was going around Chara to the net last night. Let's see Kennedy try that.

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04-21-2013, 10:10 AM
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there are a ton of good line combinations we can use. None of them start with Kunitz - Crosby - Dupuis. Not because its not a good line, but because it doesn't leave good spots for other lines. If they do stay together, the best options with everyone else all involve either Neal or Iginla on the 3rd line. Playing Dupuis without a superstar playmaking center makes a LOT more sense than playing either of Neal or Iginla without one.

Even using the same 4 players you have in your top 6.

Kunitz - Crosby - Dupuis
Neal - Malkin - Iginla

Switching Iginla and Kunitz (and putting Neal and Iginla both at RW) makes BOTH lines better.

Dupuis - Crosby - Iginla
Kunitz - Malkin - Neal

Both of those lines are better than they were in the first setup. If these are going to be our top 6 forwards, these should be the combinations. I still don't think its the ideal setup, but its better than anything with Neal and Iginla on the same line.


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04-21-2013, 10:50 AM
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I don't know what else Dupuis has to do to prove he can produce regardless of where he is. I'm not real sure I've ever seen a more adaptable player than Dupuis. RW, LW, C, 1st line, 2nd line, 3rd line...doesn't matter. Same production. It's really remarkable.

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04-21-2013, 11:35 AM
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There's no way
Kunitz - Crosby - Dupuis
won't play together in the post-season. Simply no way.[/B]
There is a way.... and that way is the Iginla-Malkin-Neal combo isnt a great fit. Switching Iginla with one of Dupuis/Kunitz makes the most sense for both lines and for the good of the entire team.

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04-21-2013, 12:38 PM
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I think the injuries to Geno and Neal have made it so Iginla-Malkin-Neal won't happen. They haven't had time to build chemistry and I think Dan wants everyone to be comfortable. I also think Bennett has won him over and Morrow mentioned how that line (Morrow-Dupuis-Bennett) has found chemistry. I think we will see:

Dupuis-Crosby-Iginla
Kunitz-Malkin-Neal
Morrow-Sutter-Bennett
Cooke-Jokinen-Adams

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If Shero went full troll on Boston and snagged Jagr seconds before he got dealt to Boston, what would the lines look like? I don't want Jagr, but that troll job would be LOL worthy.

Kunitz-Crosby-Iginla
Neal-Malkin-Jagr
Morrow-Jokinen-Dupuis
Cooke-Sutter-BB/Adams

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Putting together my optimal forward lineup (assuming full health) is really making me feel dumb. I forget someone every time.

Testament to the depth right now. But I'll try it anyway:

Kunitz-Malkin-Neal
Dupuis-Crosby-Iginla
Morrow-Jokinen-Cooke
Bennett-Sutter-Adams

Orpik-Martin
Eaton-Letang
Niskanen-Murray

Vitale, Kennedy, Glass, Jeffrey, Despres, Engelland, Bortuzzo scratched.

That's four scoring lines, and I think there's plenty of defensive responsibility and PK ability. Also plenty of guys who can get thrown in if necessary.

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04-21-2013, 11:59 PM
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Want:

Kunitz-Crosby-Iginla
Bennett-Malkin-Neal
Morrow-Jokinen-Dupuis
Cooke-Sutter-Adams/TK

Expect:

Kunitz-Crosby-Dupuis
Neal-Malkin-Iginla
Cooke-Sutter-Morrow
Glass-Adams-TK

Bennett, Joks, Vitale, Jeffrey are scratches.

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Want:

Kunitz-Crosby-Iginla
Bennett-Malkin-Neal
Morrow-Jokinen-Dupuis
Cooke-Sutter-Adams/TK

Expect:

Kunitz-Crosby-Dupuis
Neal-Malkin-Iginla
Cooke-Sutter-Morrow
Glass-Adams-TK

Bennett, Joks, Vitale, Jeffrey are scratches.
If Jokinen sits for Glass/Kennedy/Adams, that should be a fireable offense. Seriously.

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04-22-2013, 09:42 AM
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Here's what I'd like to see come playoffs - assuming everyone's healthy:

Kunitz - Crosby - Dupuis
Bennett - Malkin - Neal
Morrow - Jokinen - Iginla
Cooke - Sutter - Adams/Kennedy

Orpik - Martin
Eaton - Letang
Murray - Niskanen

Fleury


Talk about being able to roll 4 lines!

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Its pretty bad when all the line ups I'm seeing proposed will likely be better than what the coaching staff will set up. I don't like them all but compared to Glass over Bennett and Iginla/Neal playing together they somehow seem so much better.

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Here's what I'd like to see come playoffs - assuming everyone's healthy:

Kunitz - Crosby - Dupuis
Bennett - Malkin - Neal
Morrow - Jokinen - Iginla
Cooke - Sutter - Vitale


Talk about being able to roll 4 lines!
I've had that thought too. Why not stack 3 lines with Iggy on the third! I'd slide Vitale onto that 4th line in place of Adams/Kennedy though.

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I've had that thought too. Why not stack 3 lines with Iggy on the third! I'd slide Vitale onto that 4th line in place of Adams/Kennedy though.
Only reason I have Adams in there is because he's their top PK forward.

If you asked me a week ago, I would've told you that they should send Bennett down because there was no place for him on a healthy roster - but he's more than played his way into the lineup. If he doesn't work with Malkin & Neal, give him a shot with Jokinen and Morrow/Iginla.

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