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03-31-2013, 10:15 PM
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03-31-2013, 10:15 PM
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Sundin? Alfie? Naslund?

lol all three were great players but please none of them close to Lidstrom or Forsberg.

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03-31-2013, 10:17 PM
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Lidstrom easily for me.

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03-31-2013, 10:22 PM
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Well, I think it's pretty easily Lidstrom but who gets second is pretty highly debatable. In terms of talent, Forsberg slides in there buf if its who I think had a better career...Sundin.

Lidstrom, Sundin, Forsberg and Salming should probably be a top 4 with some variation in ranking between 2-4.

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03-31-2013, 10:24 PM
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Sundin? Alfie? Naslund?

lol all three were great players but please none of them close to Lidstrom or Forsberg.
How does Sundin not come close to Forsberg? He has more career G, A, and P.
I'm not saying one is better than the other, but they're definitely comparable.

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03-31-2013, 10:26 PM
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03-31-2013, 10:32 PM
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Unstoppable power forward with soft hands and a mean streak who could do it all, or a machine from the future sent back to not to make mistakes and help illustrate his position more.


Its close, but I think I think I give it to the terminator.

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03-31-2013, 10:39 PM
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Well, I think it's pretty easily Lidstrom but who gets second is pretty highly debatable. In terms of talent, Forsberg slides in there buf if its who I think had a better career...Sundin.

Lidstrom, Sundin, Forsberg and Salming should probably be a top 4 with some variation in ranking between 2-4.
I'd agree with this.

There's a reason why Sundin is considered a god in some Swedish hockey circles. The level of consistent performance in his career is rivaled by very few European-born players, and if we're looking at individual performance over the course of one's career, Sundin vs. Forsberg would be a close race, IMO.

Here's a thought, though.....how long before Lundqvist deserves mention as part of this group? He'll likely never challenge Lidstrom for "top dog" or anything, but best Swedish goalie of all time, perhaps?

Or has he already earned that title?

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03-31-2013, 10:41 PM
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How does Sundin not come close to Forsberg? He has more career G, A, and P.
I'm not saying one is better than the other, but they're definitely comparable.
Sundin played longer that's all.

1. Lidstrom
2. Forsberg
3. Salming
4. Sundin
5. Alfie

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03-31-2013, 10:45 PM
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Lidstrom followed closely by Forsberg.
Agree with this. Sundin and Alfie have had steady careers, but are never brought up in "best of their era" discussions like Lidstrom/Forsberg were during their respective primes.

If circumstances had been a bit different (injuries, plus an early return to Europe), I think Kent Nilsson would have been held in much higher regard. Even so, his 131 point season remains tops by a Swedish player.

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03-31-2013, 10:46 PM
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Please rank your greatest Swedish players of all-time? Here are some notables:

Mats Sundin GP 1346 G 564 A 785 PTS 1349
*first European to be drafted #1 overall
*all-time swedish leader in goals and points
*led Sweden to 06 Gold

Peter Forsberg GP 708 G 249 A 636 PTS 885
*2 Stanley Cups
*Hart + Art Ross + Calder
*ranks 10th all-time in points per game and 4th all-time in assists per game
*shortened career, hampered by injuries.

Niklas Lidstrom
*4 Stanley Cups
*7 Norris
*1st European Captain to win Cup

Other notables: Daniel Alfredsson, Markus Naslund

Remember, this isn't about WHO HAD THE BEST CAREER / WHO YOU'D WANT TO BE, but a combination of talent/skill, leadership, impact on game.

For example: Gretzky had a better career+stats than shortened careers of Orr, Bossy or Lemieux due to injuries, but many would argue any of the latter are the greatest.
Its hard to take this thread seriously when Borje Salming isnt even mentioned in the OP. Naslund is mentioned but not Salming? Seriously?

Also I dont know anyone could make an argument that Bossy is better than Gretzky.

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04-01-2013, 12:28 AM
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Dominated a game like no other Swede before or after.

One of the most terrifying feelings you'll ever have as a fan is Forsberg behind your net with the puck in a playoff game

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04-01-2013, 12:31 AM
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Borje Salming is probably ahead of Sundin.

Lidstrom
Forsberg
Salming
Sundin

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04-01-2013, 12:34 AM
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Markus Näslund is not even close lol.
I misread this and thought you said Markus Naslund and it's not even close, lol.


Lidstrom for me.

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1.Lidstrom
2.Forsberg
3.Sundin
4.Alferdsson
5.Mats Naslund
6.Zetteberg
7.Henrik Sedin
8.Daniel Sedin
9.Markus Naslund
10.Erik Karlsson (At current rate, and if returns at same rate put in top 3)

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04-01-2013, 12:40 AM
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Really? To be 100% honest, you're wrong. My pick is Mats Sundin as the greatest Swedish player ever. The reason why I said not to just pick who had the greatest career is because everyone will just pick Nik Lidstrom when you see his 4 cups and 7 norris. It's not that cut and dry. He had the best career by far....even if he had poor stats, just winning 4 cups alone makes ur career better than most.

I want people to think carefully at the individual and not what team they were lucky to play for and win cups.
In what world would you look at Lidstrom and say that he had poor stats? The man averaged 60 points a season in a 20 year career.

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04-01-2013, 12:41 AM
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In what world would you look at Lidstrom and say that he had poor stats? The man averaged 60 points a season in a 20 year career.
I'll tell what world: ****ing Bizarro World.

Lidstrom easily.

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I misread this and thought you said Markus Naslund and it's not even close, lol.


Lidstrom for me.
Haha, nah. He's not even top 10 in sweden.

I think the answer to OP question is different in NA and Sweden. You guys probably pick Lidström in most cases whereas I'm certain most swedes pick Sundin or Forsberg. Mats Sundin was simply amazing with national team. Giant leader.

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04-01-2013, 12:49 AM
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Haha, nah. He's not even top 10 in sweden.

I think the answer to OP question is different in NA and Sweden. You guys probably pick Lidström in most cases whereas I'm certain most swedes pick Sundin or Forsberg. Mats Sundin was simply amazing with national team. Giant leader.
Oh what do you know.

...oh wait.

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04-01-2013, 01:05 AM
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Foppa's all time ppg and apg have absolutely no value, because he was out of the league before he really started to decline.

1. Lidström
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2. Salming
3. Forsberg
4. Sundin
5. Alfredsson
6. Naslund

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Lidstrom is far and away #1, #2 is a better debate IMO.

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I wonder where Hakan Loob would be ranked. Decided to have a short career in the NHL and moved back to Sweden after he won the cup in Calgary.

I believe he is still the only Swede to ever score 50 goals in the NHL, correct?

Not implying he is above Lidstrom, Sundin or Forsberg, but curious as to how he is placed in a 10-20 player list.

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Lidstrom. Not really that close.

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I'd be interested to hear what any Swedes think. It has to be Lidstrom by a mile but like someone said earlier Sundin seemed to be revered far more than anyone else in his home country. And IIRC he always wore the "C" for Team Sweden.

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