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Joe Colborne, Top Six C?

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04-01-2013, 01:10 PM
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Joe Colborne, Top Six C?

I find Colborne has recently been thrown into a lot of Leaf offers recently, but I think I have a case for Colborne being a top six C in the NHL as early as next season, and curious what you guys think of his value.


http://leafshero.wordpress.com/2013/...op-six-centre/

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When looking at Colborne scoring pace now, itís obvious the wrist issues were what caused the sudden disappearance of Colborne, but also his sudden re-emergence Due to the small sample size of a healthy Colborne itís hard to judge exactly the type of player Colborne is. If when healthy, he truely is a point per game AHL centre, who is still learning to use his size and only a couple months over 23 years of age, then their is a lot of reason for Leaf fans to have optimism about Colbornes future in Toronto. Over the past season many high end AHL prospects have made the jump to the NHL, and in general the jump seems to be made when a prospect has been able to put up a point per game in the minorís. When comparing Colborne to other young forwards (all born in í89 or later) who made the jump from the AHL to the NHL this season, Colborne does not look out of place.


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Colborne is an interesting case...when healthy he's been a great 2-way beast in the AHL averaging a PPG. He then hurt his wrist and played through immense pain, his average shots per game went from ~3, to ~1 per game. He was clearly struggling and in pain thus making his numbers look sub-par.

In his last about 30 games, he's been PPG (since he's been healthy) and great 2-way. I think he can still be a good 2C or a great 3C.

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Top 6 center is a very optimistic term for Colborne.

At best he becomes an average 2nd liner but more likely a third liner like Brian Boyle. Putting up points in the AHL versus the NHL are two different stories.

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I know Colborne started terribly slow but has come on at a PPG pace the last 30 or so games.

Anyone know the exact numbers? I.e. 30 points his last 30 games, + whatever, etc.

Edit: Nevermind, it's in the blog

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I have tempered expectations for Joe at this point. Injuries have held him back. When 100% the guy can dominate. He was a project on the Bruins and still is one IMO. Moving him now before giving him a legit shot doesn't make much sense. There's been too much time put into him not to try.

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He can't be sent to the minors next season without passing through waivers.

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If Grabovski happens to get traded for Luongo (ugh), or even one of the three CBJ 1st rnd picks this year, i wouldnt mind seeing Big Joe take over 3c duties.

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He'll be in the NHL next year if either Grabovski or Bozak are gone one way or another. He deserves a chance under Carlyle.

He opted to play for his teammates instead of wrist surgery in the playoffs last year, so I definitely like his attitude.

He just needs to find a way to keep his wrists healthy and the rest could fall into place. I think he has top six potential...could be the #3C next year.

Would be nice to have two homegrown centres.

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Bring him up the same way we brought up Kadri, he spent his time in the AHL and if he impresses at camp give him the 3rd line center role playing sheltered minutes. Leafs have insane winger depth so he should have decent linemates regardless.

If he doesn't impress at camp and can't make the roster then so long, farewell.

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Top 6 center is a very optimistic term for Colborne.

At best he becomes an average 2nd liner but more likely a third liner like Brian Boyle. Putting up points in the AHL versus the NHL are two different stories.
An average 2nd line center is a top 6 player...

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If Bozak resigns, I could see the Leafs starting next year with...

JvR - Bozak - Kessel
Lupul - Kadri - Kulemin
Frattin - Colborne - Komarov
McLaren - McClement - Orr

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Colborne seems like a solid 2nd/3rd line C, much like Stoll or Zack Smith.

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Why would people pencil in Komarov ahead of MacArthur or is that becausev he is a UFA at the end of the year?

I really like MacArthur's offensive upside and he has heart maybe not the size you want on a third line.

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Why would people pencil in Komarov ahead of MacArthur or is that becausev he is a UFA at the end of the year?

I really like MacArthur's offensive upside and he has heart maybe not the size you want on a third line.
It's just the UFA thing. If MacA resigns for something reasonable that be great.

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Well ready or not he only has till next year, he's hitting waiver eligible soon.

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Why would people pencil in Komarov ahead of MacArthur or is that becausev he is a UFA at the end of the year?

I really like MacArthur's offensive upside and he has heart maybe not the size you want on a third line.
Komarov gets under people's skin, and he can bounce between the 3rd and 4th line because his one obvious shortcoming is a lack of offensive skill. But he is a useful chip to have. An odd effect of the emergence of the Lupul/Kadri/Kulemin line as one of two scoring lines (1A or 1B, take your pick) is that two thirds of last year's 2nd line (Grabovski and MacArthur) are now looking for new roles, and both might benefit from a change of scenery. If Grabovski is traded, Colborne gets the first audition for 3C, I imagine, or we pick something up trading Grabo and Mac.

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to t.o.
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3rd
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to edm
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biggs

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If Bozak resigns, I could see the Leafs starting next year with...

JvR - Bozak - Kessel
Lupul - Kadri - Kulemin
Frattin - Colborne - Komarov
McLaren - McClement - Orr
That looks like a cup contending offense to me.

Bozak could use an upgrade, but then again remember andy mcdonald was the #1 center for the anaheim ducks.

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Good one

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I actually expected him to have fallen off the radar by now, so to see him doing well is actually a shock to me.

Having said that, he's not going to get an opportunity in Toronto as long as Kadri, Bozak, and Grabo block his advancement. I also don't see the organization giving up any of the three above him to make room. Colborne hasn't been TAHT impressive.

I think he has some good value to a team that might need centres like Phoenix. What they'd give up is open to speculation but I imagine his value would be similar to a 2nd round pick

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Ouch.

In all seriousness, I'm taking a wild guess that Calgary's asking for him in the Kiprusoff deal. He's an Alberta kid and he fits their need for both a big forward and a centreman for their rebuild.

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