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04-01-2013, 03:08 PM
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Mark Giordano Jake Gardiner

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Leaf fans say no.

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What else is coming along with Mark Giordano in this case? Better be very significant.

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I thought they were looking for a top-pairing D? Not gonna come cheap.

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What else is coming along with Mark Giordano in this case? Better be very significant.
That's the problem with this proposal. Both sides want more added. Not gonna work.

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That's the problem with this proposal. Both sides want more added. Not gonna work.
No, the problem with this proposal is that Jake Gardiner as a young defender with significant upside, is much more valuable that Mark Giordano at this time. If Giordano was playing like he was two or three years ago, then the proposal is somewhat close.

As of now? Nah.

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As much as I'd like Giordano, I'd rather keep Gardiner because he has the potential to become better.

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Why would Calgary add more? Giordano is a top-pairing defenseman in his prime. Gardiner's a good young defenseman, but I'm not sure what makes him worth more than Gio at this point in time. You have to give to get, if we've learnt anything during this trade season.

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If Giordano was RH and was a couple years younger I'd probably do this n

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Gardiner can net better than Giordano. He has a lot more value. Not that we are looking to move him anyways.

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I'd rather keep Gardiner.

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Shoots left, we need a righty.

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Am I the only Leaf fan who doesn't totally hate this deal?

I mean, I like Gards and he's got high potential, but Giordano would fit in nicely (other than his lefty shot). We do desperately need another defenseman to compliment Phaneuf or eat some of his minutes. It's not like the guy is old either.

Gardiner's value is probably pretty low this year and Nonis has talked about keeping his younger players or trading them for other young players so it likely won't work out. That said, I don't think its that horrible of an idea.

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As much as I'd like Giordano, I'd rather keep Gardiner because he has the potential to become better.
Better than a top pairing guy who puts up decent numbers and plays with all heart...

HF makes me sick sometimes.

Apparently potential to be a good player > Actually being a good player.

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Hmm, this appears to be one of those trades that both sides don't like.

So we might have something here.

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Gardiner can net better than Giordano. He has a lot more value. Not that we are looking to move him anyways.
Giordano is what Gardiner can become.

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I would rather add to Gardiner and get a better player in return

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Giordano is what Gardiner can become.
Gardiner's offensive upside is much higher, but I think Giordano will be the better overall defenseman. If Gardnier can learn to defend he'll blow Gio out of the water. Too much upside to give up on him now.

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The Leafs need a right shot dman.

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Giordano is what Gardiner can become.
Gardiner has more upside than this version of Giordano. He's on the decline and has yet to prove he can maintain his past effectiveness. As such, one should be able to understand why they'd rather take their chances with Gardiner, who is also significantly younger and controllable (in terms of salary).

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I thought they were looking for a top-pairing D? Not gonna come cheap.
Well.. Pittsburgh was looking for a top line winger for Crosby and that came cheap.

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Better than a top pairing guy who puts up decent numbers and plays with all heart...

HF makes me sick sometimes.

Apparently potential to be a good player > Actually being a good player.
Just let the Leafs develop their own players for once, look at Kadri and where he is now.

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Just let the Leafs develop their own players for once, look at Kadri and where he is now.
Ok, sorry, i forgot about Kadri. Tell me, what other great players have you drafted and developed lately?

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