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04-26-2005, 03:09 PM
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Reebok paid Crosby all that money to wear their gear in the NHL, not in the SEL, RSL or any of these other European leagues.
The Euro Season is short ...Lots of time for Crosby to walk around in his Reebok cap and sweatshirt during the summer ..

Lots of commercials and other sponsor events Crosby can attend to fulfil his commitment over the next 5 years.

The Olympics, World Championships, World Cups all chances for Crosby to show off the logo ..

Reebok paid him to use his name really and plaster his face on posters, billboards and TV adds ... not much different then a super model gets paid for a TV add or even a playboy bunny gets for a photo shoot ..

How often have you noticed what kind of running shoes your favourite athlete wears??

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The Euro Season is short ...Lots of time for Crosby to walk around in his Reebok cap and sweatshirt during the summer ..

Lots of commercials and other sponsor events Crosby can attend to fulfil his commitment over the next 5 years.

The Olympics, World Championships, World Cups all chances for Crosby to show off the logo ..

Reebok paid him to use his name really and plaster his face on posters, billboards and TV adds ... not much different then a super model gets paid for a TV add or even a playboy bunny gets for a photo shoot ..

How often have you noticed what kind of running shoes your favourite athlete wears??
I'd be surprised if his contract doesn't say he has to play in the NHL. What is to stop him from quitting hockey all together and just be a Reebok "super model"?

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04-26-2005, 03:27 PM
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I'd be surprised if his contract doesn't say he has to play in the NHL. What is to stop him from quitting hockey all together and just be a Reebok "super model"?
Crosby inks lucrative endorsement deal
Canadian Press
3/8/2005

TORONTO (CP) - Sidney Crosby has joined NBA star Allen Iverson, NFL quarterback Peyton Manning, actress Lucy Lui and rappers Jay-Z and 50 cent in Reebok's stable of athletes and celebrities endorsing the company's sportswear and sports equipment.

But Crosby will wear Reebok skates and equipment exclusively and Reebok footwear, apparel and training equipment off-ice. He will not use Reebok's sticks yet, as he has two years remaining on a four-year deal with Sherwood.


"The most important thing wasn't the dollar figure, but to have a long-term relationship," said Matt O'Toole, president and CEO of The Hockey Company, which is a Reebok subsidiary. "With a player like Sidney, we don't want to have a one-or two-year relationship. We want it to be for his career."


Reebok announced in January it was introducing its own line of equipment called Rbk. The company has signed NHL players Chris Pronger, Tony Amonte, Mike Modano, Curtis Joseph and twin brothers Henrik and Daniel Sedin.

In Crosby, Reebok gets a client who is actually playing, which most of the above players are not during the current NHL lockout.

"That's a particularly nice thing," O'Toole said. "He's on the ice for a full season this year and he's playing fantastic."

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/news_story.asp?id=117600



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04-26-2005, 03:29 PM
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Crosby inks lucrative endorsement deal
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3/8/2005

TORONTO (CP) - Sidney Crosby has joined NBA star Allen Iverson, NFL quarterback Peyton Manning, actress Lucy Lui and rappers Jay-Z and 50 cent in Reebok's stable of athletes and celebrities endorsing the company's sportswear and sports equipment.

But Crosby will wear Reebok skates and equipment exclusively and Reebok footwear, apparel and training equipment off-ice. He will not use Reebok's sticks yet, as he has two years remaining on a four-year deal with Sherwood.


"The most important thing wasn't the dollar figure, but to have a long-term relationship," said Matt O'Toole, president and CEO of The Hockey Company, which is a Reebok subsidiary. "With a player like Sidney, we don't want to have a one-or two-year relationship. We want it to be for his career."


Reebok announced in January it was introducing its own line of equipment called Rbk. The company has signed NHL players Chris Pronger, Tony Amonte, Mike Modano, Curtis Joseph and twin brothers Henrik and Daniel Sedin.

In Crosby, Reebok gets a client who is actually playing, which most of the above players are not during the current NHL lockout.

"That's a particularly nice thing," O'Toole said. "He's on the ice for a full season this year and he's playing fantastic."

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/news_story.asp?id=117600


what is it that you're pointing out?

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I'd be surprised if his contract doesn't say he has to play in the NHL. What is to stop him from quitting hockey all together and just be a Reebok "super model"?
What happens if he has a career ending injury or busts and does not make the NHL etc ??

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What happens if he has a career ending injury or busts and does not make the NHL etc ??
I imagine he wouldn't get paid. That's why I think the contratc would say he has to play or be signed in the NHL.

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what is it that you're pointing out?
Well the first part says that they want a lifetime commitment .. So what does a few years in Europe matter??

Players like Cujo for example another client may not even play in the NHL again .. Who knows .. so what happens then ..

I don't think a sponsor has any say in what Crosby can do and not do .. That would imply that if Crosby was in a Contract dispute and sat out the year then his Reebok deal would not allow him to use that contract negotiation tactic..

The Sedins played in Europe last year and got paid their endorsment fees ..

If Reebok wanted an NHL sponsorship from Crosby then should have waited until he got drafted by a team and began his career post lockout then .. Crosby is getting paid this year as a non NHL player and if the lockout continues will also next year ..

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Well the first part says that they want a lifetime commitment .. So what does a few years in Europe matter??

Players like Cujo for example another client may not even play in the NHL again .. Who knows .. so what happens then ..

I don't think a sponsor has any say in what Crosby can do and not do .. That would imply that if Crosby was in a Contract dispute and sat out the year then his Reebok deal would not allow him to use that contract negotiation tactic..

The Sedins played in Europe last year and got paid their endorsment fees ..

If Reebok wanted an NHL sponsorship from Crosby then should have waited until he got drafted by a team and began his career post lockout then .. Crosby is getting paid this year as a non NHL player and if the lockout continues will also next year ..
There would be all kinds of clauses in a contract of that value, and more than likely some dealing with the lockout, games played, injuries, etc. It may have a say in what he can do and it may not. If they wait til he makes the NHL they would have probably missed out so they eat a few early years in exchange for having him later.

For Cujo it probably ends when his career ends

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The Euro Season is short ...Lots of time for Crosby to walk around in his Reebok cap and sweatshirt during the summer ..

Lots of commercials and other sponsor events Crosby can attend to fulfil his commitment over the next 5 years.

The Olympics, World Championships, World Cups all chances for Crosby to show off the logo ..

Reebok paid him to use his name really and plaster his face on posters, billboards and TV adds ... not much different then a super model gets paid for a TV add or even a playboy bunny gets for a photo shoot ..

How often have you noticed what kind of running shoes your favourite athlete wears??
Of course he can but Reebok isn't paying all that money to have him walk around in a cap and T-shirt, logos have to be covered up in the Olympics I believe.

They paid him to hump the Reebok name in hockey for all the high profit margin equipment that they want to sell and the best way to do that is in the NHL.

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I don't care if it would have a major negative impact.

I'll use the pro-owners stance ... just replace him with someone else, players are interchangeable and not the product, the game is.
Pro owner's stance?

Anyway the point was that having players sit impacts the team... you talk as if it doesn't.

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Of course he can but Reebok isn't paying all that money to have him walk around in a cap and T-shirt, logos have to be covered up in the Olympics I believe.

They paid him to hump the Reebok name in hockey for all the high profit margin equipment that they want to sell and the best way to do that is in the NHL.
If Bettman keeps the lockout going another year .. Does he hope that screws up Crosbys Rebook deal, by forcing him to play in Europe ??

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If Bettman keeps the lockout going another year .. Does he hope that screws up Crosbys Rebook deal, by forcing him to play in Europe ??
Hopefully Bettman has more important things on his mind than worrying about players endorsement deals.

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Hopefully Bettman has more important things on his mind than worrying about players endorsement deals.
Oh?

Apparently, that would be a correct assumption, he's dealing with a goon that wants back into the non-existent NHL.

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Pro owner's stance?

Anyway the point was that having players sit impacts the team... you talk as if it doesn't.
It only impacts the on ice product.

The NHL is about making the owners money, we need not concern ourselves with the quality of the product. The polls say quality is not job one in the NHL.

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Hopefully Bettman has more important things on his mind than worrying about players endorsement deals.
I agree, but not all the posters here do , as some have expressed those very concerns that Reebok is not getting its value from Crosby ..

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If Bettman keeps the lockout going another year .. Does he hope that screws up Crosbys Rebook deal, by forcing him to play in Europe ??
Yes, and when he is finished with that Bettman plans to steal a nuclear weapon and hold the world hostage for 1 BEEELLLLLION dollars!

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Yes, and when he is finished with that Bettman plans to steal a nuclear weapon and hold the world hostage for 1 BEEELLLLLION dollars!
Great News .. I would imagine that will be added to league Revenue to increase the Hard Cap or does Bettman plan on hiding this Revenue ??

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Probability of Leafs drafting Crosby? 1.92%

Terry Jones talks about it on Slam! Sports:
Taking a chance on Sid

"A 5.77% chance Sidney Crosby could end up playing with Rick Nash and the Columbus Blue Jackets.
A 3.85% chance The Great One, if Wayne Gretzky decides to coach the Phoenix Coyotes when NHL hockey returns, could end up coaching The Next Great One.
A 3.85% chance of the second coming of Gretzky ending up with the Edmonton Oilers.
A 1.92% chance Crosby could end up with the Stanley Cup champion Tampa Bay Lightning.
...
Those are the percentages if Gary Bettman and the NHL board of governors adopt a lockout draft plan several NHL people at the IIHF World Hockey Championship believe will be put in place for this year's entry draft.
...
If they're right, and this system is adopted, the odds of Crosby ending up with a Canadian franchise would be 15.4%
...
If you've missed the playoffs three times in the last three years, you get three balls in the bingo machine. That's Columbus, Buffalo, Atlanta, Florida, Pittsburgh and the New York Rangers.
If you've missed the playoffs twice, you get two balls. That's Edmonton, Calgary, Carolina, Chicago, Nashville, Los Angeles, Phoenix, Washington, Minnesota and Anaheim.
Everybody else gets one ball.
...
If you get the first pick in the first round, you pick last in the second round.
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"Doug MacLean thinks he should have 10 balls," said one NHL team source on the chance of Nash and Crosby ending up on the team that made Nash the No. 1 pick overall two years ago.
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A bit of both more than likely. Contrary to what SOME people believe not everyone wants to play in Toronto.
As proven with the great number of UFA's that, in recent years, have decided to sign with other teams, even though most leafs journalists, columnists, commentators and fans assumed they would automatically sign with Toronto.

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As proven with the great number of UFA's that, in recent years, have decided to sign with other teams, even though most leafs journalists, columnists, commentators and fans assumed they would automatically sign with Toronto.
I don't know, I think with: Blake, Guerin, Holik, Kariya, Selanne, Niewy, Roberts, Mogilny, Jr, ..., signing in Toronto the team is doing okay.

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As proven with the great number of UFA's that, in recent years, have decided to sign with other teams, even though most leafs journalists, columnists, commentators and fans assumed they would automatically sign with Toronto.
At least the Leafs are in the game and not watching from afar, like some other team.

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As proven with the great number of UFA's that, in recent years, have decided to sign with other teams, even though most leafs journalists, columnists, commentators and fans assumed they would automatically sign with Toronto.
But never with Montreal.

Why is that?

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But never with Montreal.

Why is that?
I don't know... You'd have to ask them.

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I don't know... You'd have to ask them.
Is there a reason they should be saying free agents are going to sign with the Canadiens?

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Is there a reason they should be saying free agents are going to sign with the Canadiens?
Free agents have as much a chance to sign with Montreal as they do with any other team in the league, including Toronto. Why would free agents a better chance of signing in TO then any other place?

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