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Proposal: Marcel Hossa to Ottawa

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04-13-2005, 09:55 PM
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Proposal: Marcel Hossa to Ottawa

Here's the Proposal:

To Montreal
2nd round pick in 2006

To Ottawa
Marcel Hossa

I figure that Montreal must be starting to get tired of the slow development of Marcel Hossa, a first round pick in 2000, while Ottawa would likely take a chance by giving up a pick to see if he could be a solid player if playing alongside Marian in Ottawa. As Marcel has shown little in the way of NHL production in his first 3 seasons, it seems likely that Montreal wouldn't mind parting company with him. Marcel also plays left wing, so if he could show even a glimmer of his brother's talents in the NHL he could put up huge numbers say on a line with Marian and Jason Spezza.

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04-13-2005, 10:13 PM
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Personally I would not do this if I was Ottawa. Hossa would not crack the Senators lineup for quite sometime and needs top 6 minutes to be productive. Senators should save their higher end picks for players at trade deadline.

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I think that is a fair offer for him. Seeing as we got that much for Eric Chouinard, so hopefully we should be able to get as much, or slightly more.

However, Hossa has played very well this year, maybe well enough for Montreal to give him at least one more significant shot.

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Marcel for Marian. The Sens would be stupid not to do this.

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I'd probably do it.

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Sens4Cup

I figure that Montreal must be starting to get tired of the slow development of Marcel Hossa,

Any thoughts?
Yeah... then why the hell would Ottawa want him?

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04-13-2005, 11:14 PM
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Ottawa and the Hossas

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Yeah... then why the hell would Ottawa want him?
I think Ottawa would be willing to take a chance that playing him with his brother would produce fantastic dividends. As Marcel hasn't seemed to have clicked in Montreal, giving up a 2nd round pick with the possibility that Marcel is the next Marian I think would be well worth while.

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If i were the sens i would definently do it

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I think Ottawa would be willing to take a chance that playing him with his brother would produce fantastic dividends. As Marcel hasn't seemed to have clicked in Montreal, giving up a 2nd round pick with the possibility that Marcel is the next Marian I think would be well worth while.
People need to realize that brothers are usually never as good. It's like sequels..the original is always better.

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If I were the Sens, I'd give it a shot, but wouldnt be worth giving a shot for a 2nd rounder.. I'd trade about a 4th rounder probably

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If I were the Sens, I'd give it a shot, but wouldnt be worth giving a shot for a 2nd rounder.. I'd trade about a 4th rounder probably
Hossa the 2nd hasn't had the career by any means that justifies a 2nd rounder. Bergeron is dead on, I'd definetly give him a shot for a mid-round pick. Personally though I don't see where he would fit in within the Sens organization. Yes, they need LW, but not really of the minor Hossa type.

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Maybe a late 3rd, definitely worth a 4th or 5th round pick, but not a 2nd.

He's done a whole lot of nothing in a long time, and is a long shot for the NHL.

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montreal will never trade hossa for a 3rd unless they tried everything and actually I do think that Hossa will play with the habs in the NHL ...
he was solid with Ribeiro and Ryder last year ....
I think I would not even trade him for a 2nd round pick !
I think he will look great with Bonk and Bulis on the 3rd line if there is hockey next year !

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Sens4Cup
Here's the Proposal:

To Montreal
2nd round pick in 2006

To Ottawa
Marcel Hossa

I figure that Montreal must be starting to get tired of the slow development of Marcel Hossa, a first round pick in 2000, while Ottawa would likely take a chance by giving up a pick to see if he could be a solid player if playing alongside Marian in Ottawa. As Marcel has shown little in the way of NHL production in his first 3 seasons, it seems likely that Montreal wouldn't mind parting company with him. Marcel also plays left wing, so if he could show even a glimmer of his brother's talents in the NHL he could put up huge numbers say on a line with Marian and Jason Spezza.

Any thoughts?
I'm willing to give away a third rounder for the "little" Hossa, but not a 2nd or even a 1st round.

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04-14-2005, 03:19 AM
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Yeah, a guy with confidence problems should definitely be playing on the same team as a brother who is much, much better than him. That's sure to clear those doubts right up.

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The Habs aren't going to give up on Marcel. They've been extremely patient with prospects (ex. Michael Ryder) and that's not going to end just so the brothers can share a room on the road. Marcel's problem isn't lack of skill or size....it's all confidence with him. This is the year when we hope he puts it all together. As for trade value...it doesn't make sense to talk about. The Canadiens would want more than Ottawa would be willing to give up because it's a boom or bust year for him.

Just some thoughts

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4th round pick at the most.

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The few times Marcel played with Marian in Mora, they really really clicked.

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As a Mtl. fan, I say no....
He s still young and has not had a real chance on the team. Same thing keeps happening again and again in Mtl... Ribeiro kept playing on the fourth with crapy players, put him on 2nd and powerplay and BAM....They will do the same thing to Higins next year, so we will all ***** adn make proposals to trade him....Put him on the 2 first lines and he will produce. Hossa, he s big, good hands and can skate, but he has to play with good players, not on the fourth or third line....We keep him and play him...anyway, we dont need a 2nd draft pick, too many young players...

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04-14-2005, 09:00 AM
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Marcel Hossa will be just fine, he isin't going anywhere...as previously said, it's confidence issues with him, he'll never be as good as Marian, but should he reach his potential, he'll be able to score 25 goals and be a presence along the boards....

2nd/3rd line type...IMO

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People need to realize that brothers are usually never as good. It's like sequels..the original is always better.
I hear ya... I mean people need to realize that Tuomo will never be as good as the original - Jarkko!!

and of course Paul Comrie had more talent than his little brother Mike....


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A second rounder for Hossa is a very fair trade imo. Maybe I don't value draft picks half as much as you do. Consider: a lot of 2nd rounders never even make it to the position Hossa is now.

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I think Montreal would be better of giving him a chance on the second line if Dagenais is not skating better. I think he could produce with Ryder and Ribeiro.

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honestly, if Montreal was going to trade him, I would guess that there would be a few teams that could take the risk for a late 2nd round pick.

If that's the case - and I'm guessing that there will be others interested at that price - why would the Habs deal him to the Sens? to make the guy happy to play with his brother? wouldn't they rather take the risk by moving him out of the division?

I would think that especially since the Habs are trying to get into the playoffs, they wouldn't be doing Ottawa any favours. And moving him to the Sens, where his superstar brother plays, and if there's a chance that he could develop into a top 6 forward there, I doubt the Habs would be in any rush to see that happen.

I could see Ottawa being interested, but Montreal would/should probably demand more from them than most other teams... and at that price, I could see others being interested too.

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Hossa getting a long look on Team Slovakia. I'd love to see him in Ottawa for someone like Lyamin or Nikulin in return. Ottawa will keep its Draft picks, and its blue chip prospects Kaigorodov, Bochenski, Meszaros, etxc.

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