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03-27-2013, 07:35 PM
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Ryan Miller to TB

Hope to hell all this talk about Miller to TBL is just that, talk.


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Greeeeaaat.

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If the price is right, Miller here would be a god send. Don't kid yourselves.

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If the price is right, Miller here would be a god send. Don't kid yourselves.
I can think of 6,250,000 reasons why I wouldn't want him in Tampa. That cap hit next year is ridiculous.

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I think a change of scenery will do a lot for Miller. He has had a lot of disagreements with the Sabres coaches and roster over the past couple of seasons, so maybe a change could bring him back to elite form. This guy is a former Vezina winner and silver-medalist (still hate that goal he gave up...), he's a top 10 in the league easily, probably top 5 when he's on his game. As long as we don't give up too much, I wouldn't mind.

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03-27-2013, 07:50 PM
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Miller for Brett Connolly rumor seems good for us if we do it salary cap wise

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Depending on the price maybe. I don't want to move Connolly though.

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03-27-2013, 07:54 PM
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I can think of 6,250,000 reasons why I wouldn't want him in Tampa. That cap hit next year is ridiculous.
Buffalo could retain some of it. And we have money coming off the books.

It's one year it's not a cap killing contract. There is plenty of room for it if Yzerman is smart.

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03-27-2013, 07:55 PM
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I like miller and think he would be a great asset for us, but I too am worried about the cost (more what we would have to give up than cap wise.)

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03-27-2013, 07:56 PM
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Yzerman has put his faith in and invested in Lindback. I don't think it's Yzerman's thing to acquire a goalie who he hopes to be a starter, and tells him such, and then tell him, sorry, we're going in a different direction.

Plus, Miller is a prima donna to the media, something I don't think Yzerman would like.

And he's overrated. I'm not saying he's a bad goalie, he's good. He's just criminally overrated.

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03-27-2013, 07:58 PM
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What I get from this thread is everyone is perfectly fine with craptastic goaltending for the foreseeable future.

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03-27-2013, 08:01 PM
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Yzerman has put his faith in and invested in Lindback. I don't think it's Yzerman's thing to acquire a goalie who he hopes to be a starter, and tells him such, and then tell him, sorry, we're going in a different direction.

Plus, Miller is a prima donna to the media, something I don't think Yzerman would like.

And he's overrated. I'm not saying he's a bad goalie, he's good. He's just criminally overrated.
I wouldn't say that one of the best goalies over the past decade is criminally overrated. He hasn't won less than 30 games since 05-06. He's a former Vezina winner, Olympic silver medalist, and a game changer. I'd take him for the right price.

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03-27-2013, 08:08 PM
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Buffalo could retain some of it. And we have money coming off the books.

It's one year it's not a cap killing contract. There is plenty of room for it if Yzerman is smart.
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5.625m coming off the books. Probably not keeping Nacho or MAB, but MAB is seriously feline. Keeps hanging around. Probably not gonna keep Beener either.

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Don't forget that we can exceed the cap by $3.6million due to Ohlund being on the LTIR

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I agree with yes.

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I'm on the fence now after reading some opinions. The coaching change will perhaps bolster our D. If it is just as bad though, Miller won't look good. SFY committed to Lindback as well. So I don't know. I'm on the fence.

Plus, Lindback showed flashes on brilliance before he went down. Can we count on that to be the norm when he returns from injury? Perhaps. Perhaps not.

All that being said, I hope we don't overpay if we are to get him.

tl;dr - SFY will do what SFY feels like. We are mere mortals.

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I don't hate Miller and I think he'd be a good addition.

I don't want to pay something ridiculous for a short term stopgap, though. For once we have prospects and I don't want to raid that. Especially at the expense of guys like Palat, Killorn, Barberio. I mean, Killorn isn't untouchable - nobody is - but it'd be silly to pay a bunch for Miller without possibly picking up another defender.

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What I get from this thread is everyone is perfectly fine with craptastic goaltending for the foreseeable future.
Lol same here.


If ( a BIG IF) somehow this ends up coming to fruition, you ****ing better be happy we would finally have a competent, bonafide #1 goalie.

I don't think it will happen though, but **** people...come on now! Miller is a great goalie.

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03-27-2013, 08:51 PM
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Would Miller be a great goalie behind our D? Who/which picks we'd have to give up would be the rub for me. The cap hit is manageable if more than what I think he's worth.

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Would Miller be a great goalie behind our D? Who/which picks we'd have to give up would be the rub for me. The cap hit is manageable if more than what I think he's worth.
I think we could handle Connolly and a 2nd or 3rd. That's what I would give.

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So lets acquire a goalie who is playing worse than the goaltender.we.acquired to be our #1. Plus he makes 3 times more than said goalie, would cost us good.assets to acquire and will most likely walk after next year. Sounds like a really good idea.

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I think we could handle Connolly and a 2nd or 3rd. That's what I would give.
I wouldn't. But I'm not a GM. I think Connolly is a top 6 winger for the Bolts next year.

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03-27-2013, 09:01 PM
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I wouldn't. But I'm not a GM. I think Connolly is a top 6 winger for the Bolts next year.
Maybe, but I see the Goalie position as more of an issue than top 6 wingers now and for the foreseeable future.

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Maybe, but I see the Goalie position as more of an issue than top 6 wingers now and for the foreseeable future.
Tampa...Goalie Issues? Say it aint so...

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I think Miller's a fantastic goalie, but I question the timing of making such a deal. I know Cooper's dead set on trying to get us to the playoffs, but I really feel that it won't matter how good the goalie we get is, until we address the defence. I'd prefer to see Cooper come in first and evaluate how far this team really is from the playoffs and if he can actually make the immediate impact he's claiming he can.

I would loathe seeing us finish 10th or 11th again this year and miss out on an elite prospect in the top 3. However, I love seeing us win too so I'm torn. Hopefully Miller would be able to provide us the stability we need in net, but he hasn't made a difference in Buffalo with their defence, so I can't see him doing much better in Tampa (unless the change of scenery was all he needed).

Trading Connolly would be a huge risk since he's developing very nicely in the AHL right now and would look great in our top 6 (especially once St.Louis eventually retires). I would prefer to package two offensive prospects like Namestnikov and Kucherov, opposed to giving up a more sure thing in Connoly.

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