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04-02-2013, 06:24 AM
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LHD Ian Cole - G Jordan Binnington

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C Scott Laughton and a pick

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Depending on ther pick, the value is probably reasonable, but I don't see the point for the Flyers. Laughton's emergence might make couturier expendable for a potential top defenseman, but I don't think Cole has that kind of upside. He projects to more of a3-5 guy, right? The flyers already have about four of them.

couturier-shatterkirk is a better framework from Philly's perspective, I think.

edit: after the season, of course, and depending on shatty's ask.

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04-02-2013, 06:47 AM
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Shattenkirk is still untouchable.

Blues probably need to add something else to the OP to get the Flyers to deal

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LHD Ian Cole - G Jordan Binnington

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C Scott Laughton and a pick
Wouldn't trade Laughton if I was the Flyers for anybody.

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I definitely don't want to trade Scott Laughton. He is tearing it up in OHL this season and in play-offs. He's the reason why I would trade Couturier.

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I definitely don't want to trade Scott Laughton. He is tearing it up in OHL this season and in play-offs. He's the reason why I would trade Couturier.
I don't think I'm willing to pay the price that you want for Couts at this point. I don't know if he is going to pan out to be much more than a better version of Jay McClement excellent defensive center with little offense. It is too early to tell. He has a super high upside, but....maybe not looking like he is going to get there? Not downgrading Couts...I really like him and would rather have him. Just needs to reach in the tool box a bit more before I would overpay for him.

My thoughts on the Laughton deal were that
1. you have a logjam at center
2. Cole would be a better prospect than what you have in the 3-5 slot
3. thru 9. You just traded for Kent Huskins...
10. Your goaltending prospects don't have much hope of a future starter.

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I don't think I'm willing to pay the price that you want for Couts at this point. I don't know if he is going to pan out to be much more than a better version of Jay McClement excellent defensive center with little offense. It is too early to tell. He has a super high upside, but....maybe not looking like he is going to get there? Not downgrading Couts...I really like him and would rather have him. Just needs to reach in the tool box a bit more before I would overpay for him.

My thoughts on the Laughton deal were that
1. you have a logjam at center
2. Cole would be a better prospect than what you have in the 3-5 slot
3. thru 9. You just traded for Kent Huskins...
10. Your goaltending prospects don't have much hope of a future starter.
1. Yeah we'l keep Cousins and Laughton over Cole.
2. Goshstishberhe is miles better than Cole.
3 thru 9. Cool
10. Stolarz

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I don't think I'm willing to pay the price that you want for Couts at this point. I don't know if he is going to pan out to be much more than a better version of Jay McClement excellent defensive center with little offense. It is too early to tell. He has a super high upside, but....maybe not looking like he is going to get there? Not downgrading Couts...I really like him and would rather have him. Just needs to reach in the tool box a bit more before I would overpay for him.

My thoughts on the Laughton deal were that
1. you have a logjam at center
2. Cole would be a better prospect than what you have in the 3-5 slot
3. thru 9. You just traded for Kent Huskins...
10. Your goaltending prospects don't have much hope of a future starter.
Couturier as McClement? yikes.

The Flyers gave up nothing for Huskins--he is simply a short-term injury fill-in. When healthy, Cole would be behind Timonen, Coburn, Schenn, Grossmann, and Mezsaros.

binnington doesn't necessarily project as a NHL starter, at least not with any degee of certainty. the flyers do have A. Stolar in London, though he is a few years away.

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1. Yeah we'l keep Cousins and Laughton over Cole.
2. Goshstishberhe is miles better than Cole.
3 thru 9. Cool
10. Stolarz
You are under rating cole. I love gostisbehere, but he doesn't project nearly as well, and I would happily deal cousins for cole.


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Couturier as McClement? yikes.

The Flyers gave up nothing for Huskins--he is simply a short-term injury fill-in.

binnington doesn't necessarily project as a NHL starter, at least not with any degee of certainty. the flyers do have A. Stolar in London, though he is a few years away.



You are under rating cole. I love gostisbehere, but he doesn't project nearly as well, and I would happily deal cousins for cole.
Huskins is a very serviceable 5-7 guy, coming from a Wings fan. Very solid in his own zone. His speed/offense won't knock your socks off, but he plays very good defensive hockey.

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Cole and Perron for Couturier makes a lot of sense.

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Cole and Perron for Couturier makes a lot of sense.
Except it's overpayment by the Blues, we'd need more.

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Cole and Perron for Couturier makes a lot of sense.
I'm fine with that as the beginnings, but the Flyers need to add something else.

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Cole and Perron for Couturier makes a lot of sense.
It is great value for the Flyers, but I wouldn't say it makes sense. They still lack a potential #1 defenseman.

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No interest in trading for a player like Perron with a history of concussion problems.

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No interest in trading for a player like Perron with a history of concussion problems.
1 isn't a history, Briere is a history of concussion problems.

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Couturier as McClement? yikes.

The Flyers gave up nothing for Huskins--he is simply a short-term injury fill-in. When healthy, Cole would be behind Timonen, Coburn, Schenn, Grossmann, and Mezsaros.

binnington doesn't necessarily project as a NHL starter, at least not with any degee of certainty. the flyers do have A. Stolar in London, though he is a few years away.



You are under rating cole. I love gostisbehere, but he doesn't project nearly as well, and I would happily deal cousins for cole.
I watch Binnington quite a bit and the kid is solid in net. He's been a huge reason the Owen Sound Attack have done what theyve done in the last couple years.

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I watch Binnington quite a bit and the kid is solid in net. He's been a huge reason the Owen Sound Attack have done what theyve done in the last couple years.
Which is fine, but goalie is the most difficult position to project from juniors, right?

I didn't say wasn't a very good prospect, but I don't think he is a sure-fire NHL starter either.

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Cole and Perron for Couturier makes a lot of sense.
Perron alone is > Couturier

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Perron alone is > Couturier
Coots is younger, has a smaller cap hit, has a higher ceiling and is a PK fiend. Just stop.

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Coots is younger, has a smaller cap hit, has a higher ceiling and is a PK fiend. Just stop.
Maybe when he at least starts to show signs of reaching his offensive potential.

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1 isn't a history, Briere is a history of concussion problems.
A bad concussion at a young age is a real negative as far as I'm concerned.

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This isn't with the Flyers, but what about:

To Dallas: Ian Cole

To St Louis: Derek Roy + Tomas Vincour + 2013 3rd

I think Vincour still has top 6 potential as a strong PWF, but he's in our coaches doghouse and is only getting 4th line minutes. St Louis also has the cap space to resign Roy in the offseason. Let me know how this works for you guys.

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This isn't with the Flyers, but what about:

To Dallas: Ian Cole

To St Louis: Derek Roy + Tomas Vincour + 2013 3rd

I think Vincour still has top 6 potential as a strong PWF, but he's in our coaches doghouse and is only getting 4th line minutes. St Louis also has the cap space to resign Roy in the offseason. Let me know how this works for you guys.
Roy would only be a rental with us with our budget, unless we moved roster players, but I'd rather just have Berglund as our #2.

Add: I'd still do the deal, but doubt it actually happens.


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This isn't with the Flyers, but what about:

To Dallas: Ian Cole

To St Louis: Derek Roy + Tomas Vincour + 2013 3rd

I think Vincour still has top 6 potential as a strong PWF, but he's in our coaches doghouse and is only getting 4th line minutes. St Louis also has the cap space to resign Roy in the offseason. Let me know how this works for you guys.
I would do this as a Blues fan.

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This isn't with the Flyers, but what about:

To Dallas: Ian Cole

To St Louis: Derek Roy + Tomas Vincour + 2013 3rd

I think Vincour still has top 6 potential as a strong PWF, but he's in our coaches doghouse and is only getting 4th line minutes. St Louis also has the cap space to resign Roy in the offseason. Let me know how this works for you guys.
Blues fan saying yes.

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