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09-24-2003, 09:32 AM
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Canucks Sign Umberger?

Apparently, John McKeachie(TEAM 1040? CKNW?) said that Umberger signed with the Canucks this morning and is on his way to Vancouver. Can anyone verify hearing this?

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Umberger knows he has no other place to go, so last I heard they were $300,000 apart. Wouldnt surprise me though.

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There was an interview this morning with umberger on 1040 but no signing to my knowledge was announced. Just that talks were ongoing and he didn't want to play in europe.

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I haven't heard this but it would be good news.

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2 people I talked to confirmed that McKeachie indeed said he was on his way to Vancouver and had a new deal.

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I got an E-mail this morning from my cousin. She works in the Canucks building part-time, and she sent me an E-mail about saying how heard it on the radio as well. I'll check the radio & let you guys know if they mention it.

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The updates on the Team 1040 say they're 300,000 apart.

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The updates on the Team 1040 say they're 300,000 apart.
Yep. My guess is someone at TEAM 1040 goofed up and said he signed.

Just heard the update. They are still $300k apart.

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they were saying they were 300k apart yesterday so if you are going by sportsnet, don't as that is from yesterday

 
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they were saying they were 300k apart yesterday so if you are going by sportsnet, don't as that is from yesterday
The 300k figure is coming from an interview with umberger himself on 1040 THIS morning. Unless something drastic has happened between then and now, he isn't signed.

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$300k apart now, huh? The Canucks must be offering around 800-900k.

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$300k apart now, huh? The Canucks must be offering around 800-900k.
Is the rookie cap 1.1/year

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Is the rookie cap 1.1/year
I think for RJ's year and where he was drafted it's at 1.2 million/year for a three-year contract.

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Anyone know if Umberger is still seeking a one-way deal?

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My hope is that these negoitations don't get mean and ugly. That's up to Burke. He has to keep it at a professional business level. I'm not blaming him for taking a stance on the Umberger contract but hope he doesn't get negative, such as saying why Umberger is not good enough to get what he's asking. If the difference is 300 k. then they should be able to come sort of settlement if the Canucks really want to get him. If they protract negoitations then Umberger may be seen as more valuable to the team as trading chip.

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If they protract negoitations then Umberger may be seen as more valuable to the team as trading chip.
Really? Would we trade for a holdout/unsigned player? No, Burke says "I never trade for another team's contract problem."

Sign and trade is feasible however, assuming that negotiations have been going on covertly with Pitts -- er, the other team.

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IMO he will get signed. RJ's agent may say he is willing to sit out the year, but when push comes to shove that will hurt his players value even more. I think a deal will get done in the next few days, but he is going to have a lot of catching up to do, and I hope he shows up in shape.

BTW, here is what the agent is trying to negotiate, from the current CBA ....

The maximum annual Compensation, including any bonuses
for games played, permitted to be paid to a Group I Player shall
be as follows:

Draft Year NHL Compensation

1995 US$ 850,000
1996 US$ 875,000
1997 US$ 925,000
1998 US$ 975,000
1999 US$1,025,000
2000 US$1,075,000


It stops there but one can assume for the 2001 draft year the max would be 1.125.

And there is no way his agent is pushing for a 1 way deal. I have read that rumor all over the internet and it is completely false. The CBA strictly forbids it. Here is the article that talks about rookie contracts ...

9.4. Minor League Compensation. Each Player Contract entered
into with a Rookie in the Entry Level System shall automatically
be deemed to be a "two way" contract


Put those one way contract demands to bed. They are not a part of these negotiations.

Having said all that, hopefully a middle ground is obtained, and like I said, I think one will be found. It does Umberger no good to sit out a season and become a UFA right before a pending labor war. I hope he gets some good advice from his agent.

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