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04-08-2013, 04:42 PM
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Just a guess, but I think Cullen will have to be sacrificed unless he's willing to take a significant paycut. And why wouldn't he try to cash in on this season?

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Just a guess, but I think Cullen will have to be sacrificed unless he's willing to take a significant paycut. And why wouldn't he try to cash in on this season?
Because he loves playing in Minnesota. We all like to think that every Minnesotan wants to come home and play for the fans, and in some cases it's true. Parise and Palmer and Prosser love playing in Minnesota. Cullen bleeds Green and Red, it seems like.

He is not a guy who wants or needs a bunch of money, either. Wasn't it just last season that he donated over half of his salary to a charity? He'll take a paycut to play here or he'll retire. I'm not worried at all.

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04-08-2013, 05:10 PM
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Just a guess, but I think Cullen will have to be sacrificed unless he's willing to take a significant paycut. And why wouldn't he try to cash in on this season?
Because Cullen is at the end of his career, playing at home, for a team on the rise. If ANYONE is willing to take a hometown discount, Cullen would.

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Because he loves playing in Minnesota. We all like to think that every Minnesotan wants to come home and play for the fans, and in some cases it's true. Parise and Palmer and Prosser love playing in Minnesota. Cullen bleeds Green and Red, it seems like.

He is not a guy who wants or needs a bunch of money, either. Wasn't it just last season that he donated over half of his salary to a charity? He'll take a paycut to play here or he'll retire. I'm not worried at all.
I agree...I'm thinking if Fletcher offers Cullen 2 years at $1.5-$2.5 million per, he'll take it.

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04-08-2013, 05:13 PM
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Over 35, multi-year deals come with risks...wouldn't be surprised to see one year. Ie if injured, no cap relief, if retired, still get the cap hit etc.

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Just a guess, but I think Cullen will have to be sacrificed unless he's willing to take a significant paycut. And why wouldn't he try to cash in on this season?
Streaky...

Coming off an injury...

36 years old...

Take your pick.

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04-08-2013, 05:37 PM
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Over 35, multi-year deals come with risks...wouldn't be surprised to see one year. Ie if injured, no cap relief, if retired, still get the cap hit etc.
We can afford it. We don't have to pay Mark Parrish's buyout starting in 14-15.

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Because Cullen is at the end of his career, playing at home, for a team on the rise. If ANYONE is willing to take a hometown discount, Cullen would.
Agreed! If the Wild weren't a legit contender then I could see him retiring, going to a team with a chance to win, or requiring a big pay day to stay. But he's made a lot of money over the years and the opportunity to possibly win it all playing for his home team has to be worth quite a bit!!

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04-08-2013, 05:45 PM
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We can afford it. We don't have to pay Mark Parrish's buyout starting in 14-15.
You don't want 2 mil of the cap dead in the water. You retain the entire cap hit in this case...not a reduced one over many years like Parrish. Just saying because of the risk, I wouldn't be surprised if he got only a one year deal.

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You don't want 2 mil of the cap dead in the water. You retain the entire cap hit in this case...not a reduced one over many years like Parrish. Just saying because of the risk, I wouldn't be surprised if he got only a one year deal.
You can put over 35 contracts on LTIR. The only way a 2 year deal would hurt is if Cullen retired after 1. I cant see him asking for 2 years and then quitting after 1.

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04-08-2013, 06:37 PM
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Cullen seems to take pretty good care of himself, and he has already aged pretty well. I wouldn't be adverse to a 2 year/4-5 mil contract for him. I can't really see him asking for more than that anyways.

Worst case is he slows down and becomes his usual streaky self, but even then he would still be good for a third line role.

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04-08-2013, 06:44 PM
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So, let's say Cullen is re-signed and let's also assume that Granlund will be ready to assume a full time role with the Wild next season, and combine that with the poor play of our current 3C....could this be a recipe for Brodziak maybe being the 2nd contract being bought out or maybe packaged as part of a offseason trade?

With no Brodziak, I could see this:

Parise - Koivu - Pominville
Zucker - Cullen/Granlund - Setoguchi
Clutterbuck - Granlund/Cullen - Coyle
Rupp - Konopka - Mitchell



Cullen starts the season as 2C, and Granlund at 3C with him possibly playing his way into the second line.

Just a thought.

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04-08-2013, 06:49 PM
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You can put over 35 contracts on LTIR. The only way a 2 year deal would hurt is if Cullen retired after 1. I cant see him asking for 2 years and then quitting after 1.
No you can't, that's why the Devils were screwed when Mogilny couldn't play due to his knee. He didn't retire because he wanted his cash, but couldn't play either. You sign an over 35year old player to a multi-year deal, that's part of the risk.

Also how the Flyers were screwed by Pronger's injury.

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04-08-2013, 06:55 PM
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NHL "Over 35 Rule":

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The CBA also contains a 35-and-over rule, sometimes referred to as the Mogilny rule.[8] This rule states that if a player signs a multi-year deal when the player is 35 or older, starting in the second year of the contract, that amount will count towards the team's salary cap regardless of whether the player is on the active roster or not (unless the player is on long-term injured reserve); this provision remains in effect for the 2013 CBA. This is designed to keep teams from signing older players to lucrative front-loaded contracts, thus saving cap room, in which there is no expectation the player will actually play in the latter years
The Flyers placed Pronger on LTIR and thus didn't have his salary count against the cap.

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Creative accounting is a part of the NHL in its salary cap era. The Philadelphia Flyers have a method that is unique to them to exceed the salary cap. They do not buyout players. Instead they permanently transfer them to the longterm injury reserve. Any player who has had a lengthy NHL career has some kind of recurring injury problem that can be played up and turned into a longterm ailment. This allows the team to pay out the injured player’s salary to a new replacement player. If the player was bought out, there would be dead salary cap space that couldn’t be used.


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04-08-2013, 07:14 PM
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Ok, so the Mogilny rule did account for that...my bad.

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04-09-2013, 12:58 AM
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I don't think Brodziak is the guy to go..way too responsible defensively and he's a right shot center. He isn't going anywhere.

It comes down to money and term on Cullen's new deal..remember this is the same guy that gets cold as ice and last year had like 2 goals in the last 40 games.

On the other hand if he will sign a 1-2 year deal for 2Million per I'd easily sign him. Thing about him is if he isn't top 6 or bust..if he isn't scoring(which he probably won't be by that time.) he could still be a useful on the PK and he could play on lower lines and they wouldn't miss a beat because he is good defensively.

Now is the Wild willing to pay him that much to be potentially a checker at that point...we will see.

My gut says we sign him..

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04-09-2013, 01:44 AM
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Is this actually the Mikael Granlund thread or a Cullen thread in disguise?

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04-09-2013, 02:40 AM
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Is this actually the Mikael Granlund thread or a Cullen thread in disguise?
I was wondering the same thing myself. Can you say hijacked?

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How was mikke's last game?

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Me watching the last two games of MiG:


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04-10-2013, 08:42 AM
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How was mikke's last game?
funny how people were worried about his size...he's no PMB clone. He's more than willing to lay hits and get dirty. Needs a few games to get comfortable enough with the team to make plays. Kids gonna be good.

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He didn't stand out at all. Still needs a lot of time in the AHL.

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He didn't stand out at all. Still needs a lot of time in the AHL.
Well i gotta disagree, yes he may need some time on AHL but he was almost only one who got some shots last night.

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He was good last night. Seemed a lot physical and a lot faster than earlier this season. Had some scoring chances as well.

He definitely looked like an NHL player.

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I thought Granlund had a decent game last night...better than most of the Wild players, anyways.

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