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04-07-2013, 12:47 PM
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Lupul does not have a concussion. Players that have a concussion do not skate at all.

They do nothing on the ice and I'm sure it's the same off the ice until they feel better.

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Gaborik. Was injured almost every season for about 5 seasons straight, had constant hip problems. Now hasn't missed a game in 2 seasons.
Only because this season started in January. Gaborik had shoulder surgery in the offseason and wouldn't have been ready had the season started in September....or October....or November.

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04-07-2013, 01:54 PM
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New policy this season...

Under the NHL's new rules this year, a player who suffers a concussion no longer has to remain inactive for seven days, but must pass a series of tests.

Players are examined in the arena using the SCAT2. Their baseline and subsequent concussion testing is done using ImPACT.

The SCAT2 stands for Sports Concussion Assessment Tool 2. It is approved for athletes aged 10 and older. It has categories for symptom evaluation, physical signs, the Glasgow coma scale, which is a measure of responsiveness, sideline assessment to test orientation, a cognitive assessment, balance and coordination assessment and a repetition of the cognitive assessment. The lower the score from baseline, the increased chance the player has a concussion, however, the test alone is not an indicator of concussion; medical judgement still needs to be used. The imPACT is a more in depth, computerized version of the SCAT2. Again, the lower the score, the greater the likelihood of concussion.

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http://www.hockeywilderness.com/2013...y-is-it-broken

Concussion symptoms sometimes take days to show up, hence the old 7 day rule. But these new computerized tests can rule out a lot of things earlier. The article states, however, that there is still a medical judgement to be made by the doctors. The fact Lupul is skating is a very good sign, but I would think he might be out for a few more days to ensure it is not a concussion as there is no foolproof diagnostic tool.


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04-07-2013, 02:01 PM
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We need him back bad.... KING JOFFREY!


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04-07-2013, 02:07 PM
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I'm confused about why this topic is so pessimistic. He's back on the ice and looked fine and it's getting spun into "he was only on a bit, he must have post-concussion symptoms!" or, of course, his entire career's kin jeopardy and we should keep him out all year...

The actual evidence in front of us suggests that he does not have anything more than a mild concussion and might not have one at all, he's back on the ice at practice, and he'd probably be playing against the Rangers if the team wasn't (rightfully) being cautious. I'm going to go with that.

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04-07-2013, 02:09 PM
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Lupul does not have a concussion. Players that have a concussion do not skate at all.

They do nothing on the ice and I'm sure it's the same off the ice until they feel better.
He was hit in the head.

He struggled to get up.

He missed the bench by about 3 feet.

Needed help getting back to the dressing room.

Must be a broken finger


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04-07-2013, 02:24 PM
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I'm not saying he has a concussion,I am not a doctor or do not have inside info,but.Sometimes at rest there will be no symptoms,once you start to exercise and get your heart rate up,they may appear.

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04-07-2013, 02:28 PM
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He was hit in the head.

He struggled to get up.

He missed the bench by about 3 feet.

Needed help getting back to the dressing room.

Must be a broken finger
Clearly with your advanced medical degree you can access a brain injury bases on the 5 seconds of TV footage better than the team doctors they have to access him in person.

Who should we call to ensure they listen to you instead of them?

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04-07-2013, 02:34 PM
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We need to keep Lupul rested. If the team takes a bit of a nose dive then we play him, if not though; let him rest. We will need all our skaters at 110% if/when that time comes.

We are in a good position, we just have to get past these last 10 games and play it smart.

Limit the fights
Protect our stars
Play defensive/cycle hockey
Clear Reimer's crease.
Get our powerplay effective again.
All and all, stick to the basics!

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04-07-2013, 02:38 PM
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He is fine will be back Monday

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04-07-2013, 02:40 PM
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My son's doctor says after his concussion"you're the only one that can tell how you feel,you will know when your better,don't lie to your parents or yourself about anything,don't play again until you are sure you're better".

It's all up to the person injured,no one else can tell if you're better or not.

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04-07-2013, 02:41 PM
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He was hit in the head.

He struggled to get up.

He missed the bench by about 3 feet.

Needed help getting back to the dressing room.

Must be a broken finger
Doctor Tak7, I hope you apply elsewhere because the Leafs sure as heck don't want you as the team doctor.

You must have gotten your degree from Dr. Recchi's Medical Institute...if so, throw the degree away. It's useless.

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04-07-2013, 02:41 PM
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He was hit in the head.

He struggled to get up.

He missed the bench by about 3 feet.

Needed help getting back to the dressing room.

Must be a broken finger

They ran multiple tests on Lupes and all came out negative.

They wouldn't have allowed him to take shots and then skate for a bit if there was a slight chance of concussion.

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04-07-2013, 02:43 PM
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Clearly with your advanced medical degree you can access a brain injury bases on the 5 seconds of TV footage better than the team doctors they have to access him in person.

Who should we call to ensure they listen to you instead of them?
i seen him come off of the ice.Looked pretty confused.

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04-07-2013, 02:45 PM
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They ran multiple tests on Lupes and all came out negative.

They wouldn't have allowed him to take shots and then skate for a bit if there was a slight chance of concussion.
Taking shots and skating are the final steps of the tests.

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04-07-2013, 02:51 PM
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I think it's pretty easy to infer that he at least had a mild concussion.

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04-07-2013, 03:11 PM
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Why do people who know little to nothing about medicine and brain injuries insist on making a medical diagnosis?

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04-07-2013, 03:12 PM
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I see we've got a whole lot of doctors in here

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04-07-2013, 03:12 PM
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i seen him come off of the ice.Looked pretty confused.
Ok but that still isn't enough to make a medical diagnosis.

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04-07-2013, 03:13 PM
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I think it's pretty easy to infer that he at least had a mild concussion.
I dont think anyone with no real knowledge of the situation should be inferring anything.

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04-07-2013, 03:14 PM
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Why do people who know little to nothing about medicine and brain injuries insist on making a medical diagnosis?
Forums are made for discussions. People are allowed to give out their opinions and simply speculate to kill time. Everyone is anxious to know what is wrong with Lupes lol.

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04-07-2013, 03:15 PM
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I see we've got a whole lot of doctors in here
I particularly love how definitive some can be, as though in a room with Lupul looking at just chart as they type.


All I know, I was worried he'd be in the dark today on a couch, fact he's on he ice is fantastic news.

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04-07-2013, 03:19 PM
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Concussions are completely overrated in the NHL. For some reason, when a player in this league gets even a mild concussion, people start to assume it's the end of his career. Unless it's a seriously huge concussion, then it isn't THAT serious. Just like any other minor day-to-day injury. 'Concussion' is like the f-word now, people are scared to see it or say it.

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04-07-2013, 03:23 PM
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Since Crosby's last concussion people are terrified of them and their star players missing games cause of them...


What you have to realize is Crosby had a serious concussion and missed A LOT of time for it...

I remember when Toews had a concussion a couple years ago I think, he was back on the ice next week! It wasn't a serious one, and he didn't lose a step because of it....

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Why do people who know little to nothing about medicine and brain injuries insist on making a medical diagnosis?
I have the same question for Mr. Randy Carlyle:

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I have a theory on concussions," he said. "I think the reason there’s so much more of them — obviously the impact and the size of the equipment and the size of the player — but there’s another factor: everyone wears helmets, and under your skull when you have a helmet on, there’s a heat issue. Everyone sweats a lot more, the brain swells. The brain is closer to the skull. Think about it. Does it make sense? Common sense?"
From http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/g...-lupul-injury/

We pay this man to make decisions about our personnel

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