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04-22-2013, 12:53 AM
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And yet the Canucks have, when healthy, never struggled against L.A.

I mean sure if Daniel Sedin gets another concussion then we're hooped, but if I'm a Kings fan, a healthy Canucks team scares the crap out of me.
basically this, we matchup up really good against them when Daniel came back

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04-22-2013, 01:06 AM
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And yet the Canucks have, when healthy, never struggled against L.A.

I mean sure if Daniel Sedin gets another concussion then we're hooped, but if I'm a Kings fan, a healthy Canucks team scares the crap out of me.
I essiently agree with you. A healthy Canucks team can take any team in the league, the problem with this team is staying injury free. Is just fear the Kings the most out of any but you do raise a great poit the Canucks are 2-0-1 against the Kings this year without Kesler in any games.

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04-22-2013, 01:43 PM
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I really hope we play San Jose - they're 8-12-2 on the road this year and the Sedins should be able to work their magic a lot more effectively against them than they would against St. Louis.

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04-22-2013, 01:48 PM
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Jersey's 29th overall pick last year is rumoured to have quit his QJMHL team in the middle of a playoff series because of a bad slashing call. Refused to ride the team bus home and instead rode the fan bus.

Matteaulov.

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Jersey's 29th overall pick last year is rumoured to have quit his QJMHL team in the middle of a playoff series because of a bad slashing call. Refused to ride the team bus home and instead rode the fan bus.

Matteaulov.
And his Dad is the coach.

If you can't get inline when your dad is the coach its a pretty bad sign.

Jersey should have forfeited that pick anyways...the way their team is shaping up, next years pick they have to forfeit could easily be a top 10.

I'd rather have a 2014 top 10 pick than a 2012 29th overall.

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04-22-2013, 02:10 PM
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Not quite sure where to put this. But with just 34 games played, Justin Schultz led all AHL defenseman in points this season. Wow.

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I really hope we play San Jose - they're 8-12-2 on the road this year and the Sedins should be able to work their magic a lot more effectively against them than they would against St. Louis.
This is what I said last year when it was either SJ or LA.

I trust our goalies to get the tougher matchup against the SJ offense rather than our forwards failing miserably trying to break through a stifling defense. Give me SJ any day over STL and twice on Mondays.

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And his Dad is the coach.

If you can't get inline when your dad is the coach its a pretty bad sign.

Jersey should have forfeited that pick anyways...the way their team is shaping up, next years pick they have to forfeit could easily be a top 10.

I'd rather have a 2014 top 10 pick than a 2012 29th overall.
Holy hell I didn't hear that part. Sounds like he's been officially released now too.

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Holy hell I didn't hear that part. Sounds like he's been officially released now too.
Supposedly it's not 'official' until the Armada's season is over.

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And his Dad is the coach.

If you can't get inline when your dad is the coach its a pretty bad sign.

Jersey should have forfeited that pick anyways...the way their team is shaping up, next years pick they have to forfeit could easily be a top 10.

I'd rather have a 2014 top 10 pick than a 2012 29th overall.
That's in regards to the Kovalchuk penalty right?

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04-22-2013, 02:41 PM
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And his Dad is the coach.

If you can't get inline when your dad is the coach its a pretty bad sign.

Jersey should have forfeited that pick anyways...the way their team is shaping up, next years pick they have to forfeit could easily be a top 10.

I'd rather have a 2014 top 10 pick than a 2012 29th overall.
Ya, I was completely shocked that they didn't forfeit the 29th overall pick

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That's in regards to the Kovalchuk penalty right?
Yes

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04-22-2013, 03:31 PM
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I forgot about NJD having to forfeit a pick.

Did they have to decide before the draft which year it would be or could they wait and see if anyone they wanted was available at #29 and make a decision then?

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I forgot about NJD having to forfeit a pick.

Did they have to decide before the draft which year it would be or could they wait and see if anyone they wanted was available at #29 and make a decision then?
They had to announce their decision within a certain # of hours after the last game of the Finals.

From what I've read, they were planning on forfeiting last year's pick, but they thought the deadline was 48 hours.
Apparently it was 24 hours and they missed it.

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04-22-2013, 04:52 PM
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Here's an article explaining the draft choice penalty:

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/devils-...0562--nhl.html

New Jersey had to forfeit their first round pick in one of the 2011, 2012, 2013, and 2014 drafts. Since they didn't in 2011 (picked Adam Larsson) or 2012 (picked Stefan Matteau), they have to give up this year's pick or next year's. According to the article, the Devils are unlikely to give up this year's first rounder so they will have no choice but to give up the one for 2014. The most interesting thing I read in the article was the claim that "according to International Scouting Services [the 2014 draft] is even deeper than this year’s draft".

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Here's an article explaining the draft choice penalty:

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/devils-...0562--nhl.html

New Jersey had to forfeit their first round pick in one of the 2011, 2012, 2013, and 2014 drafts. Since they didn't in 2011 (picked Adam Larsson) or 2012 (picked Stefan Matteau), they have to give up this year's pick or next year's. According to the article, the Devils are unlikely to give up this year's first rounder so they will have no choice but to give up the one for 2014. The most interesting thing I read in the article was the claim that "according to International Scouting Services [the 2014 draft] is even deeper than this year’s draft".
Well, it gives them a year to at least improve and bump the pick down or to trade an asset for another teams 2014 first.

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04-22-2013, 04:55 PM
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Pffft... so Edmonton gets two first round draft picks next year?



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Here's an article explaining the draft choice penalty:

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/devils-...0562--nhl.html

New Jersey had to forfeit their first round pick in one of the 2011, 2012, 2013, and 2014 drafts. Since they didn't in 2011 (picked Adam Larsson) or 2012 (picked Stefan Matteau), they have to give up this year's pick or next year's. According to the article, the Devils are unlikely to give up this year's first rounder so they will have no choice but to give up the one for 2014. The most interesting thing I read in the article was the claim that "according to International Scouting Services [the 2014 draft] is even deeper than this year’s draft".
I could be wrong but weren't NJ looking to get somebody at the trading deadline using their 2013 pick as "bait"? Not sure that player would've made much of a difference (that team needs more help than the addition of a single player - unless that player is a healthy Kovalchuk).

Looks like Lou might've dodged one there if he had dealt it. Imagine dealing a possible lottery pick for a rental (where the team still doesn't make the playoffs); and then lose the 2014 pick because of the NHL imposed penalty!

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Pffft... so Edmonton gets two first round draft picks next year?


But they still have Kevin Lowe pulling the strings.

It's like giving Ron Delorme more picks to work with.

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Yeah, it looks like Lou screwed up.

The finals ended on Monday June 11, 2013.

According to Lou, he had a 48 hour deadline to declare that he would forfeit the 2012 pick:

http://www.nypost.com/p/sports/devil...YSLA3WceweErgP

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Devils general manager Lou Lamoriello last night said he has 48 hours, until tonight (Wednesday, June 13), to decide whether to forfeit next week’s first-round pick, part of their punishment for “circumventing” the CBA with their first signing of Ilya Kovalchuk. As Cup runners-up, they’d have had the 29th overall pick.

When in fact he only had 24 hours:

http://sports.yahoo.com/nhl/blog/puc...urn=nhl-269388

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It will be the Club's decision when, within the next four years, it will forfeit its first-round choice. The Club must advise the League of that decision by the day following the conclusion of the Stanley Cup Final in the calendar year in which the choice will be forfeited.

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Well, it gives them a year to at least improve and bump the pick down or to trade an asset for another teams 2014 first.
There's always that hope. Kovalchuk contract aside, Lou has always been used to be considered one of the savvier GMs. With the cap dropping next year, cap max teams like the Canucks will be shedding good players from the roster, which will be great for teams like New Jersey that have a huge amount of cap room for the 2013/2014 season and who might be able to pick up some talent at a bargain price.


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And his Dad is the coach.

If you can't get inline when your dad is the coach its a pretty bad sign.

Jersey should have forfeited that pick anyways...the way their team is shaping up, next years pick they have to forfeit could easily be a top 10.

I'd rather have a 2014 top 10 pick than a 2012 29th overall.
Father might have made it worse. Getting nagged by your father and coach at the time


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1-1 BUF and WIN.

If the Jets lose their season is basically over. Looking like 8th place is coming down to OTT/WIN. NYR are playing well.

If ANA loses tonight and we win then we could potentially play for 2nd in the West. If ANA wins then I expect VAN to go into total coast mode.

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Well, it gives them a year to at least improve and bump the pick down or to trade an asset for another teams 2014 first.
New Jersey was doing really well until Kovy went down. Trash ever since. Losing Brodeur doesn't help I guess either.

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Well, I guess Detroit is probably going to win tonight.

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Well, I guess Detroit is probably going to win tonight.
That's good. I want Minnesota to miss the playoffs purely for the lulz.

They traded away a huge chunk of their future to take a run at the Cup. Missing the playoffs should get their GM and coach insta fired.

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