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04-09-2013, 09:32 PM
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Ray Emery needs to be our #1 goalie

corey has had ennough chances but it is clearly obvious that Emery is better.

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No, it's really not. Every game he plays, the opposing team's offense does absolutely nothing to threaten him.

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No, it's really not. Every game he plays, the opposing team's offense does absolutely nothing to threaten him.
Exactly, Minnesota had maybe 3 legitimate scoring chances tonight. People need to stop going by stats alone. Crawford would have had the shutout tonight, too.

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No, it's really not. Every game he plays, the opposing team's offense does absolutely nothing to threaten him.
and when crawford plays the offense threatens and he gives up soft goals.

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No, it's really not. Every game he plays, the opposing team's offense does absolutely nothing to threaten him.
Generally this.

I wasn't able to catch the 3rd period, but the Hawks absolutely dominated the play in the first 2 periods. There were, at most, 2 legit scoring chances and the Hawks had the puck about 75 % of the time (so it seemed). Emery was never really challenged in this one (or many of his other starts).

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and when crawford plays the offense threatens and he gives up soft goals.
People keep throwing this point out there like Emery hasn't let in any bad goals this season. The two of them are pretty much neck and neck this season in stats and Emery has been getting some pretty easy opponents lately. The way you people talk you'd think that Emery was playing significantly better.

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No, it's really not. Every game he plays, the opposing team's offense does absolutely nothing to threaten him.
Whatever the reason. If the team plays better with Emery in net (they clearly do), then he needs to be given the chance to run with the job.

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and when crawford plays the offense threatens and he gives up soft goals.
Some have quite apparently blown the bad Legwand goal completely out of proportion.

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Whatever the reason. If the team plays better with Emery in net (they clearly do), then he needs to be given the chance to run with the job.
That's not fair. Emery has twice played a banged-up Nashville team that has no offense even when healthy, and a Minnesota team that's one of the weaker offenses among playoff teams and had a horrible game tonight.

If Emery keeps playing teams that can't score/just aren't very good, of course he and the team are going to look better.

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That's not fair. Emery has twice played a banged-up Nashville team that has no offense even when healthy, and a Minnesota team that's one of the weaker offenses among playoff teams and had a horrible game tonight.

If Emery keeps playing teams that can't score/just aren't very good, of course he and the team are going to look better.
It's not about being fair. It's about winning the cup. Some of us (and possible some management within the Hawks organization) are having a hard time forgetting that giant egg Crawford laid last spring against Phoenix.

In a perfect world I'd rather not depend on either of them, but it is what it is.

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Either way which ever goalie ends up playoff starter will have a short leash

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It's not about being fair. It's about winning the cup. Some of us (and possible some management within the Hawks organization) are having a hard time forgetting that giant egg Crawford laid last spring against Phoenix.

In a perfect world I'd rather not depend on either of them, but it is what it is.
So we judge Emery as the #1 because he's playing well against pathetic offenses?

And those people whining about Crawford's bad playoffs last spring have remarkably completely forgotten about his solid rookie season. It's not like his numbers and his play this season are similar to that year or anything crazy like that.

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There is a reason Emery has started three consecutive games. Crawford has had some boneheaded moments lately, very similar to last season's playoffs.

Emery can only stop what is shot at him. He's playing well and 3 shuts out in the past 5 is something. We shall see how Crawford looks this weekend but Ray is making a case. I don't give a **** what Crawford did in his rookie year.

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Yes, one bad goal against is actually several "boneheaded mistakes."

I'm aware some Hawk fans don't care what he did in his rookie season. Evidently these same people lack any perspective whatsoever.

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Yes, one bad goal against is actually several "boneheaded mistakes."

I'm aware some Hawk fans don't care what he did in his rookie season. Evidently these same people lack any perspective whatsoever.
What one goal are you talking about? Crawford had two in the last game he played? At least two in last year's playoffs.

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Ray Emery also was HOT and the team was playing great in front of him in 2010-11... the year before coming to the Hawks. He was 7-2, 2.28 GAA, and a .926 SV%. All that momentum and he was clearly ready to continue the hot streak into the playoffs...

He finished with a 2-3, 3.20 GAA, and .897 SV% ...

I don't think it is wise to go with the "hot" goalie when he is playing crap offenses and hardly getting any scoring chances against him. Plus he it isn't like he is severely outplaying Crawford in the past 5 games or so...it has been relatively even and Crawford probably has a slight advantage over Emery for the whole season.

You go with the best goaltender. If you think that is Emery then fine. If you think that Crawford is better, even slightly then you go with him IMO. I think that. I want Crawford out there in the playoffs because when you get there nothing else previously matters. I wouldn't give him a super long leash but I would definitely go with him to start as long as he doesn't blow the rest of the year.

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I'd take Emery over Crawford right now, I think his style better fits the current team. Crawford hasn't been as bad as some on here have said. You have some games left to still let it play out, no need to name one or the other the starter now.

I also won't be surprised if the starting goalie game 1 of the playoffs changes during the playoffs then changes back.

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What one goal are you talking about? Crawford had two in the last game he played? At least two in last year's playoffs.
The Legwand goal against Nashville at home. Everyone's been whining since then.

What, the Blues game? Which two were weak?

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The Legwand goal against Nashville at home. Everyone's been whining since then.

What, the Blues game? Which two were weak?
I'm talking about where Crawford fails to cover the puck and it gets poked in. 2nd, he has the puck and puts it in his own goal.

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The Legwand goal against Nashville at home. Everyone's been whining since then.

What, the Blues game? Which two were weak?
Why do you have to be insulting towards others that don't agree with you? It's not whining. It's just thinking Emery deserves a crack at running with the job. You need to accept that others won't always agree with you here...and that doesn't make them bad or wrong.

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I don't understand why everyone has such a hard stance right now with either guy. Crawford supporters "Emery hasn't faced much at all his last few games" - Emery supporters "Crawford lets in softies"

Neither guy has really shown he is the definite #1 and neither guy has really done anything to lose the job either. You could almost make the case that the matchup in the first round could dictate who the best choice will be.

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My problem with Crawford is he seems to get rattled fairly easy. Not good for the playoffs. No matter what we think Emery has started 3 in a row, including a back to back home and away which is odd. 1. Crawford is not 100% healthy 2. Q thinks Crawford is not playing up to par. Q has taken a hard stance on under performers this year so neither would surprise me.

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And those people whining about Crawford's bad playoffs last spring have remarkably completely forgotten about his solid rookie season.

They also seem to forget about how bad the team played at times in front of him in that series last year.


Luckily, the decision (goalie) won't be made by Blackhawks fans on this board.

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They also seem to forget about how bad the team played at times in front of him in that series last year.


Luckily, the decision (goalie) won't be made by Blackhawks fans on this board.
If it was, they'd be starting Ryan Miller.

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I'm talking about where Crawford fails to cover the puck and it gets poked in. 2nd, he has the puck and puts it in his own goal.
1st one was Legwand. Was the 2nd one a different goal?

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