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Chicago's 2012-13 MVP

View Poll Results: Chicago's MVP this season?
Patrick Kane 45 71.43%
Jonathan Toews 10 15.87%
Marian Hossa 0 0%
Patrick Sharp 0 0%
Brandon Saad 0 0%
Viktor Stalberg 0 0%
Dave Bolland 0 0%
Bryan Bickell 0 0%
Andrew Shaw 0 0%
Marcus Kruger 1 1.59%
Micheal Frolik 0 0%
Dan Carcillo 0 0%
Duncan Keith 0 0%
Brent Seabrook 0 0%
Nick Leddy 0 0%
Niklas Hjalmarsson 2 3.17%
Johnny Oduya 0 0%
Michal Rozsival 1 1.59%
Sheldon Brookbank 0 0%
Corey Crawford 1 1.59%
Ray Emery 1 1.59%
Michal Handzus 2 3.17%
Brandon Bollig 0 0%
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04-09-2013, 01:03 PM
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No contest, as far as I’m concerned. Toews, overwhelmingly is our MVP. In fact with Crosby hurt, I’d say he has a good shot at the Hart trophy. He looks stronger on the puck then ever and I think he is having his best year yet. Then I’d say Kane over Hossa, and only because Hossa missed some games after a great start, otherwise it could have been real close.
I don't see how you can say Toews is "overwhelmingly" Chicago's MVP. He's still six points behind Kane, despite being on the better line. You could argue his defensive skills make up for the point difference but even then I think MVP would be evenly matched between them with maybe a slight edge to Kane.

And Hossa over Kane if he hadn't missed games? Really? He only missed seven and he's like 20 points behind.

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Toews for the great 2Way play or Kane

it's 50/50

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I don't see how you can say Toews is "overwhelmingly" Chicago's MVP. He's still six points behind Kane, despite being on the better line. You could argue his defensive skills make up for the point difference but even then I think MVP would be evenly matched between them with maybe a slight edge to Kane.

And Hossa over Kane if he hadn't missed games? Really? He only missed seven and he's like 20 points behind.
The poll results speak volumes. That's all I'm gonna say.

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The poll results speak volumes. That's all I'm gonna say.
The poll in which Kane has 80% of the vote?

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The poll in which Kane has 80% of the vote?
The poll in which Handzus has a vote

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The poll in which Handzus has a vote
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No.

Over the course of the season Hammer has been our best defender by a fairly wide margin. It's amazing how many overrate Keith's play the first 25 or so games of the season. It wasn't that good and the numbers clearly showed that.

If we're talking the best defenseman over the last 10-12 games, Keith wins that pretty clearly. But that's not nearly enough to make up for his early play. Keith was sleepwalking out there just as much as Seabrook was. For whatever reason Keith decided to become the aggressor and that's made all the difference in his play. It's always been the key for him.
By no means am I saying that Keith has been having a Norris caliber season. Nor am I trying to discredit anything Hjammer has done, as I have been a big fan of his for a long time. If you want to make the argument that Hjammer has been the best "performance vs expectation" dman on the team I am right there with you (Leddy makes a case as well). But if you are looking at who has been the best dman on the team, all things considered, the answer is Keith.

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Kane has carried this team and the 2nd line

His improved defensive play is huge

Honorable mention to:
Toews
Leddy
Saad
Hjalmarsson
Crawford

alot of people when you are the top team in the league
I am sorry, but how did this suddenly become the consensus around here? I actually think Kane's defence this year has taken a step back compared to last year (a year where he actually did improve significantly in that area).

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Keith has had to carry Seabrook's ass around for the majority of the season so I think I'd give Keith the slight edge as far as top dman goes.

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I am sorry, but how did this suddenly become the consensus around here? I actually think Kane's defence this year has taken a step back compared to last year (a year where he actually did improve significantly in that area).
Much better at taking the puck away than he ever has been.

His actual defensive positioning is pretty much the same as last year. On the whole, he's improved defensively because his puck hounding has become exemplary.

He must've done a lot of talking with Toews as the two drank delicious lockout beer.

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Yeah, I have to disagree with that(a couple posts above). If anything, I didn't see any defensive improvements in Kane's defensive game last year.

This year I see two things...1) Great at stripping the puck and causing turnovers with his pressure and 2) Much harder backchecking

He still is not good in his own zone for the most part but he has made subtle improvements every year in his two-way play. He still needs a lot of work with positioning and defensive awareness but he has been much better with stick work.

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Good point about the backchecking. Forgot to mention that.

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The only reason there's the perception that Kane's defense has taken a step back is that centers naturally seem to be playing better defense whether they are or not since they are expected to be more involved lower in the zone.

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I am sorry, but how did this suddenly become the consensus around here? I actually think Kane's defence this year has taken a step back compared to last year (a year where he actually did improve significantly in that area).
I'm pretty sure Kane is top ten in takeaways. He's no Selke candidate, but it seems like he's going after the puck more whether he's forechecking or backchecking. That goal against Nashville where he set up Toews is a pretty good example of how good Kane has been at taking the puck away. He doesn't need to be physical.

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Kane has improved his takeaways (though he has been good at that the past couple years) and has been better in the neutral zone. But his back-checking, IMO, has been inconsistent. Some games he hustles back and does it well, some games he looks disinterested and glides back. To be fair though, he has cut down on the "disinterested" games this year. The issue for me, especially this year compared to last year, is his play in our own zone. He has never been excellent in his own zone, but at least last year (and I am sure playing centre had a lot to do with it) he pursued the puck more and came down deep when needed. This year I find he rarely pursues the puck, rarely comes down deep and seems to be cheating a bit more looking for quick breakouts. And to be clear, I am not really complaining about this, as I think it is a big reason he is playing so well offensively this year, but I just don't see how people can praise him for his improved defence.

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voted for Toews just to close the gap a bit

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Kane has been the MVP this entire season, and I'm glad you guys see it as well.

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LMAO...alright...who's the joker that voted for Zeus?
Me. He's so good at Faceoffs that the hawks will win the cup

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I don't see how you can say Toews is "overwhelmingly" Chicago's MVP. He's still six points behind Kane, despite being on the better line. You could argue his defensive skills make up for the point difference but even then I think MVP would be evenly matched between them with maybe a slight edge to Kane.

And Hossa over Kane if he hadn't missed games? Really? He only missed seven and he's like 20 points behind.
Since when does being the scoring leader automatically designate you as MVP?

Toews brings more to the table than Kane ever will, even on an off day. Kane is a one dimensional player.

Those 6 points that Kane has over Toews? Those came on the PP, with a man advantage. Toews has one more point than Kane does at an even 5 on 5. Toews has 2 shorthanded goals, and two more game winners than Kane. He also grinds it out along the boards, lays hits and drops the gloves. So, going by 'points' Toews edges out Kane in this one, right?


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He also grinds it out along the boards, lays hits and drops the gloves. So, going by 'points' Toews edges out Kane in this one, right?

This is a good thing? The only reason Toews is still in the lineup is because Joe Thornton took pity on him when Toews dropped his gloves and didn't kill him.

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Jonathan Toews has more even strength points because he's on the best line. Kane plays with mostly garbage.

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This is a good thing? The only reason Toews is still in the lineup is because Joe Thornton took pity on him when Toews dropped his gloves and didn't kill him.
You obviously haven't played hockey at a competitive level.

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Bollig for MVP!

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Hammer, he's just been amazing

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I like him, but he isn't even the best D on our roster

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