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04-20-2005, 04:23 PM
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gretzky 2005 nhl draft?

if wayne gretzky were a budding 2005 nhl draft prospect where would he go and why also factor in his size as a 18 yr old and disregard the whole nhl/nhlpa cba ordeal
would you slot him above crosby

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Knowing what we know now about Gretzky, yes.

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182 points in 63 games with the Sault Ste. Marie Greyhounds followed by 26 points in 13 playoff games.

No doubt Gretz would go first overall. None at all.

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Knowing what we know now about Gretzky, yes.

that's just it forget gretzky as a hhof the greatest etc treat him based solely on what he did in junior in this regard his pro career(WHA/NHL) is irrelevant

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that's just it forget gretzky as a hhof the greatest etc treat him based solely on what he did in junior in this regard his pro career(WHA/NHL) is irrelevant
He'd still go first overall no doubt.

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182 points in 63 games with the Sault Ste. Marie Greyhounds followed by 26 points in 13 playoff games.

No doubt Gretz would go first overall. None at all.
Yeah, Sid had a superior year, but not quite like Gretzky's.

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well, 182 points in 64 games isn't a whole lot better than Crosby's 168 in 62. I think a lot of people would be making the argument about physical play. I think their height and weight are about the same, but Crosby seems to be a more physical player than the Gretzky i remember (I never saw him in his younger days, but i'm going to assume). Weren't there a lot of people questioning Gretzky's skinnyness when he came into pro hockey? I can only imagine what they'd say about such a scrawny kid coming into today's NHL.

Gretzky would obviously be the right choice, but I'm not sure it would be such an easy decision

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well, 182 points in 64 games isn't a whole lot better than Crosby's 168 in 62. I think a lot of people would be making the argument about physical play. I think their height and weight are about the same, but Crosby seems to be a more physical player than the Gretzky i remember (I never saw him in his younger days, but i'm going to assume). Weren't there a lot of people questioning Gretzky's skinnyness when he came into pro hockey? I can only imagine what they'd say about such a scrawny kid coming into today's NHL.

Gretzky would obviously be the right choice, but I'm not sure it would be such an easy decision
Gretzky was voted best forward at the WJC's as a 16 year old, something Crosby has failed to do as a 16 or 17 year old.

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Parise dominated the WJC a couple years ago and wasn't taken untill the 17th pick in the draft. I'm certain he would have been taken earlier if he was 2 or 3 inches taller.

obviously it's different situations, but I would never underestimate the incompetance of NHL gm's when judging size over talent...

I'm not saying Gretzky wouldn't still be taken first, I'm just not sure it would be so cut and dry

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Parise dominated the WJC a couple years ago and wasn't taken untill the 17th pick in the draft. I'm certain he would have been taken earlier if he was 2 or 3 inches taller.

Parise didn't domintae the WJC's 2 years ago. In fact he wasn't even much of a factor in either the semi's or the finals.

They were also the year after he was drafted, not prior.

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Parise didn't domintae the WJC's 2 years ago. In fact he wasn't even much of a factor in either the semi's or the finals.

They were also the year after he was drafted, not prior.
well...ok, but how about the ones 3 years ago? didn't he lead the tourny in scoring that year (and wasn't it the winter before he was drafted?).

anyways, wasn't he tournament mvp 2 years ago?

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well...ok, but how about the ones 3 years ago? didn't he lead the tourny in scoring that year (and wasn't it the winter before he was drafted?)
That was two years ago, after he was drafted.

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That was two years ago, after he was drafted.
heh, was it really? damn, my bad.

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