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04-10-2013, 01:00 AM
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Why do people keep saying Sedins time is coming to an end?

I see this in a lot of posts, yet don't quite understand the rationale. These guys are not fossils and are in peak physical shape. 32 is not old. Alfredsson, Selanne, Whitney stats from 32 on up, are all very respectable.

I'd say they both have a solid 5 years in them if they stay healthy.

What do you guys think?

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04-10-2013, 01:09 AM
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These guys are not fossils and are in peak physical shape. 32 is not old.
It's also not young. And it is on the wrong side of the biological physical peak, by a fair number of years.

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The way Sedins play will allow them to play until their 40 years without missing a beat. Their game doesn't rely on speed, they're just extremely smart players that are dedicated to train every off-season. Their career stops when they no longer have the heart to play anymore and just want to relax.

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It's also not young. And it is on the wrong side of the biological physical peak, by a fair number of years.
They're still 32. If a guy like Iginla could pot 40G+ and be PPG at 35 then I don't see why ironmen like the Sedins can't.

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I could be wrong, but I thought when they signed their last deals, it was understood that this would be it. But, it could've just been media and hF speculation.

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It's also not young. And it is on the wrong side of the biological physical peak, by a fair number of years.
Thats a moving number. If you look at other sports. Look at how old some of the stars in the UFC are.

Anderson Silva is 37 years old and nobody can come close.

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haters gonna hate

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Thats a moving number. If you look at other sports. Look at how old some of the stars in the UFC are.

Anderson Silva is 37 years old and nobody can come close.
Anderson Silva is also the equivalent to Wayne Gretzky in that sport. He's a generational talent that will only come once.

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The answer is simple...

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It was a legitamate question and he's receiving legitamate thoughts. Why would you bother with that crap?

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It was a legitamate question and he's receiving legitamate thoughts. Why would you bother with that crap?
Oh because that is my legitimate opinion, that's why.

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I could be wrong, but I thought when they signed their last deals, it was understood that this would be it. But, it could've just been media and hF speculation.
They said they wanted to go back to Sweden while they could still play at a high level. I think they will take another NHL deal, 2 or 3 year then review it again, they should be able to play at a high level (maybe not elite but more than good enough for Sweden) around 36/37 if they stay healthy.

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When you get to the mid 30's, you need to either be still scoring like Iginla, jagr or Selanne or you convert to defensive specialist like we saw with Linden.

I don't think the Sedins are in those catagories and I can't see them hanging around as 50 point 2nd/3rd liners. Swedes don't usually overstay.

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I think the Sedins can play 4 more years before they decline. 37 is not that bad, even if they didn't retire at that age, I'm sure they could be good second liners for the next two or three seasons.

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Sedins might slow a bit but are still great players. They have 1 year left in there contracts.

They will be 33 when it ends I would re-sign them for 3 years 6M each. They will then be 36 after that I would re-sign them maybe 2 years or just keep offering 1 year deals.

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The twins still have plenty left in the tank for a season or two, but let's face facts...when they're 33-34 years old, they're simply not going to be able to keep up with younger faster skaters.

I for one have been a fan of their Sedinery since they were 3rd line stalwarts till today...but, 'winter is coming' for them, as it does for every player.

They're declining. It happens.

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Probably because their point totals aren't has high as their two Art Ross trophy seasons. I think they have been more defensively responsible this season though. Last season and earlier this season, Kesler was either playing injured or out for a big part of it. I think a healthy Kesler is necessary for the success of the Sedins.

In the playoffs vs. the Kings I saw Henrik elevate his game to another level. He was playing tough and looked like he was trying to will the team to win with his bro out of the lineup. This season, we've seen both of the Sedins pulling off some sick dangling moves (kings game). I think these guys have finally figured out how to elevate their game for the playoffs. I am excited for this postseason.

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Good feedback, thanks for the thoughts/explanations.

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They're declining but the window is open for atleast another 3 years with them being 70 point players.

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The way Sedins play will allow them to play until their 40 years without missing a beat. Their game doesn't rely on speed, they're just extremely smart players that are dedicated to train every off-season. Their career stops when they no longer have the heart to play anymore and just want to relax.
Their game doesn't rely on speed but they still need it. They are already slow to begin with and they're only going to get slower.

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Their game doesn't rely on speed but they still need it. They are already slow to begin with and they're only going to get slower.
It's very rare to ever see them burn down the wing and score a goal, their play is based on soccer-style passing to move the puck around faster. All they need is a player like Burrows to forecheck hard and retrieve the puck while they establish themselves in the offensive zone. As soon as they are in the offensive zone, their puck possession ability and clever passing takes over.

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Dont Swedes also seem to peak late?

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I see this in a lot of posts, yet don't quite understand the rationale. These guys are not fossils and are in peak physical shape. 32 is not old. Alfredsson, Selanne, Whitney stats from 32 on up, are all very respectable.

I'd say they both have a solid 5 years in them if they stay healthy.

What do you guys think?
I think a lot of people watched Naslund begin to slow down around that age and they are mentally comparing his decline to the Sedins.

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The Sedins hit their peak a lot later than most elite players. Gretzky, for instance, started declining offensively at 25. Of course, most players wished they had a decline like his.

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How many 33+ year old forwards have made up 2/3 of the top line on a cup winner in the last decade or so?

Playoffs is a long grind. Sedins get smacked around a lot and have only been out of the second round 1 time in their careers. Even with Roy here they need more help, younger help. Good young talent so they can be a 1A/AB situation instead of being the clear go to forwards.

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Probably because their point totals aren't has high as their two Art Ross trophy seasons. I think they have been more defensively responsible this season though. Last season and earlier this season, Kesler was either playing injured or out for a big part of it. I think a healthy Kesler is necessary for the success of the Sedins.
In the playoffs vs. the Kings I saw Henrik elevate his game to another level. He was playing tough and looked like he was trying to will the team to win with his bro out of the lineup. This season, we've seen both of the Sedins pulling off some sick dangling moves (kings game). I think these guys have finally figured out how to elevate their game for the playoffs. I am excited for this postseason.
This is how I see it. It's no coincidence the Sedins became "elite" once Kesler and Burrows broke out offensively. They need mismatches to be dominate and don't get that luxury on a one line team.

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