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04-12-2013, 12:19 AM
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With the top-6 depth issues I am really kind of worried they may jump the gun and rush Nieto into the lineup for the playoffs and burn a year off his ELC. Just seems like a DW 'all in' kind of move.
If hes ready for NHL play, why not?

Burning a year off ELC isn't that detrimental.

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With the top-6 depth issues I am really kind of worried they may jump the gun and rush Nieto into the lineup for the playoffs and burn a year off his ELC. Just seems like a DW 'all in' kind of move.
Have they ever done that before? Couture at least had 25 NHL games under his belt before the playoffs.

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I thoroughly enjoyed Howard smashing his stick in the tunnel after the SO loss.

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I thoroughly enjoyed Howard smashing his stick in the tunnel after the SO loss.
Marleau snipe will do that to ya.

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With the top-6 depth issues I am really kind of worried they may jump the gun and rush Nieto into the lineup for the playoffs and burn a year off his ELC. Just seems like a DW 'all in' kind of move.
I'd hesitate rushing Nieto only if they are really sure that he needs AHL-time developmentally.

GMs should not make personnel decisions based on the contract concerns you are talking about. That would be similar to a GM asking his coach to bench a player because that player's contract is ending and the GM doesn't want to fork over a raise...

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If hes ready for NHL play, why not?

Burning a year off ELC isn't that detrimental.
Hes most likely not going to be called up.

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Marleau snipe will do that to ya.
Yah, I laughed heartily.

Actually, he basically got beat on all 3 shots, so he was pretty damn lousy. I'd be pissed too. Never see that from Niemi though.

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Have they ever done that before? Couture at least had 25 NHL games under his belt before the playoffs.
Marcel Goc. Not a terrible move, at least for that run.

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Braun is decent but he's not performing very well this year in any zone. Irwin just needs some rest as this is a very condensed schedule and he's likely not used to it. Irwin's not likely to play very much in the playoffs but he'll have a spot in the lineup over Tennyson and I hope that the forward suggestion was not a serious one. With Sheppard out of the lineup one night and Gomez out the next night and Brent Burns already making that transition, they don't need to add another to it. He's a kid that is learning the game and doesn't need to learn a new position. He's learning by being with the team and watching the games.
My suggestion was to move Tennyson to forward while moving Burns back.

Transitioning from defense to forward really isn't that hard. Its the reverse that is damn-near impossible.

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I'd hesitate rushing Nieto only if they are really sure that he needs AHL-time developmentally.

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Hes most likely not going to be called up.
I'm really more worried about simply rushing him into the NHL and stunting his development, but the ELC thing would kind of suck too. Be fun to see a high end prospect on the Sharks again, but I really hope they just let him develop the right way and leave him in Worcester. I could see them though, on one of the last few games pre-playoffs, giving him that 1 game ATO 210 mentioned just to see where he's at just in case.

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If hes ready for NHL play, why not?

Burning a year off ELC isn't that detrimental.
If they were close to being a Cup caliber team and he'd fill a role, I'd consider that risk. However, they're not. The team has problems playing on the road and since chances are they're going to be a road seed in the playoffs, their chances are pretty slim to go far and Nieto isn't going to alter that in any meaningful way.

Let him learn in Worcester, don't waste a year, and we'll see where he and the team is at.

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04-12-2013, 12:28 AM
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Yah, I laughed heartily.

Actually, he basically got beat on all 3 shots, so he was pretty damn lousy. I'd be pissed too. Never see that from Niemi though.
Nemo is always composed. One of his best attributes.

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My suggestion was to move Tennyson to forward while moving Burns back.

Transitioning from defense to forward really isn't that hard. Its the reverse that is damn-near impossible.
Tennyson would probably be a disaster. Burns played forward in junior and was drafted as one. It wasn't til he was in the AHL that they put him on defense.

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My suggestion was to move Tennyson to forward while moving Burns back.

Transitioning from defense to forward really isn't that hard. Its the reverse that is damn-near impossible.
And I fail to see why you would want to do that. Tennyson has been developed solely as a defenseman. Burns has a history playing forward. It's a very poor idea to switch a guy now that you've brought him up as a d-man and to switch him to forward and especially poor when it's this late in the season and you can barely get all your current forwards in as it is.

It's not the transition from defense to forward that is the problem. It's asking a 22-23 year old that's played 3 NHL games to switch when he's played the entire season on D in Worcester as well as most of his organized hockey on D. It's just a poor idea.

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I'm really more worried about simply rushing him into the NHL and stunting his development, but the ELC thing would kind of suck too. Be fun to see a high end prospect on the Sharks again, but I really hope they just let him develop the right way and leave him in Worcester. I could see them though, on one of the last few games pre-playoffs, giving him that 1 game ATO 210 mentioned just to see where he's at just in case.
I think he will get a look in camp next year...he needs to get a little stronger but hes come a long way since being drafted in that regard.

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And I fail to see why you would want to do that. Tennyson has been developed solely as a defenseman. Burns has a history playing forward. It's a very poor idea to switch a guy now that you've brought him up as a d-man and to switch him to forward and especially poor when it's this late in the season and you can barely get all your current forwards in as it is.

It's not the transition from defense to forward that is the problem. It's asking a 22-23 year old that's played 3 NHL games to switch when he's played the entire season on D in Worcester as well as most of his organized hockey on D. It's just a poor idea.
I think the success Burns has had at forward is getting everyone a little carried away with converting other guys.

Burns is a rare exception, most guys fail miserably transitioning back and forth, regardless of what direction.

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Convert Irwin to backup goaltender!
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I think the success Burns has had at forward is getting everyone a little carried away with converting other guys.

Burns is a rare exception, most guys fail miserably transitioning back and forth, regardless of what direction.
I agree. Players like Burns are a very rare commodity. There aren't many players in the NHL with the combination of his speed, size, and shot.
Tennyson only has speed. He'd pretty much be Torrey Mitchell, but worse since he'd be second guessing what to do all the time.

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I agree. Players like Burns are a very rare commodity. There aren't many players in the NHL with the combination of his speed, size, and shot.
Tennyson only has speed. He'd pretty much be Torrey Mitchell, but worse since he'd be second guessing what to do all the time.
So he'd be Torrey Mitchell.

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So he'd be Torrey Mitchell.
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Taco Tennyson has a ring to it.

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So he'd be Torrey Mitchell.
Ahh Torrey how I miss your incompetence. He was truly one of a kind. Galiardi has his share of Mitchell moments at times but nothing close.

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Ahh Torrey how I miss your incompetence. He was truly one of a kind. Galiardi has his share of Mitchell moments at times but nothing close.
No one can randomly blow a tire making a turn quite like Torrey. He was the rare of combo of great speed/horrible skating ability.

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No one can randomly blow a tire making a turn quite like Torrey. He was the rare of combo of great speed/horrible skating ability.
Where as Galiardi just looks drunk out there at times. Always looks like he's about to fall flat on his face.

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