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04-11-2013, 08:41 AM
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Longest running asset of all time?

By this I mean, what is the furthest back we can trace a current NHL player through trade?

For example:

Jeremy Roenick selected by Chicago Blackhawks round 1 #8 overall 1988 NHL Entry Draft

1996-Aug-16 Traded from Chicago Blackhawks to Phoenix Coyotes for Alexei Zhamnov, Craig Mills and round 1 pick in the 1997 draft (Ty Jones)

2004-Feb-19 Traded from Chicago Blackhawks with round 4 pick in the 2004 draft (R.J. Anderson) to Philadelphia Flyers for Jim Vandermeer, Colin Fraser and round 2 pick in the 2004 draft (Bryan Bickell)


So Bickell is still on the Hawks in 2013 and is a by product of Roenick from 1988, that's 25 years. I am sure there are much longer ones, maybe even one that goes back to the original 6.

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04-11-2013, 09:04 AM
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Greg Polis selected 1st overall by the Pittsburgh Penguins in the 1970 NHL draft
  • January 17, 1974: - Traded to St. Louis by Pittsburgh with Bryan Watson and Pittsburgh's 2nd round choice (Bob Hess) in 1974 Amateur Draft for Steve Durbano, Ab DeMarco Jr. and Bob Kelly, January 17, 1974.
  • January 9, 1976: Traded to Kansas City by Pittsburgh with Chuck Arnason and Pittsburgh's 1st round choice (Paul Gardner) in 1976 Amateur Draft for Simon Nolet, Ed Gilbert and Kansas City's 1st round choice (Blair Chapman) in 1976 Amateur Draft, January 9, 1976.
  • August 7, 1976: Transferred to Colorado by Pittsburgh with Michel Plasse and the loan of Colin Campbell for the 1976-77 season (September 1, 1976) as compensation for Pittsburgh's signing of free agent Denis Herron, August 7, 1976.
  • August 30, 1979: Traded to Montreal by Pittsburgh with Pittsburgh's 2nd round choice (Jocelyn Gauvreau) in 1982 Entry Draft for Pat Hughes and Rob Holland, August 30, 1979.
  • October 4, 1985: Traded to Buffalo by Pittsburgh for Mike Moller and Randy Cunneyworth, October 4, 1985.
  • June 17, 1989: Traded to Winnipeg by Pittsburgh with Rick Tabaracci and Dave McLlwain for Jim Kyte, Andrew McBain and Randy Gilhen, June 17, 1989.
  • January 8, 1990: Traded to Vancouver by Pittsburgh with Dave Capuano and Dan Quinn for Rod Buskas, Barry Pederson and Tony Tanti, January 8, 1990.
  • March 5, 1991: Traded to Buffalo by Pittsburgh for Ken Priestlay, March 5, 1991.

That's where the links ended for me on that one. 17 years. Will try more today.

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04-11-2013, 10:19 AM
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Boston: Barry Pederson to Milan Lucic, 1980-2013

Barry Pederson Drafted 1st Round, 1980

June 6, 1986: Traded to Vancouver by Boston for Cam Neely and Vancouver's 1st round choice (Glen Wesley) in 1987 Entry Draft, June 6, 1986.

August 26, 1994: Traded to Hartford by Boston for Hartford's 1st round choices in 1995 (Kyle McLaren), 1996 (Johnathan Aitken) and 1997 (Sergei Samsonov) Entry Drafts, August 26, 1994.

March 9, 2006: Traded to Edmonton by Boston for Marty Reasoner, Yan Stastny and Edmonton's 2nd round choice (Milan Lucic) in 2006 Entry Draft, March 9, 2006.

That's one hell of a trade chain for the Bruins.

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04-11-2013, 12:18 PM
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This is fun.

How about: Dino Ciccarelli

Dino Broke in with the North Stars in 1980-81

Traded to the Capitals in 1989 for Larry Murphy and Mike Gartner

Gartner traded to Rangers for Ulf Dahlen in 1990

Dahler traded to the sharks in 1994 for Doug Zmolek and Mike lalor

Zmolek and Shane Churla traded to Kings in 1996 for Darryl Sydor

Sydor traded in 2003 to Columbus for Mike Sillinger

Sillinger leaves as free agent in 2005

26 years, I am sure there are longer

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04-11-2013, 12:53 PM
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Here's a long one with a lot of good players. I'm putting all-stars and HHOFers in bold.

St. Louis drafted Bernie Federko in 1976.

Rookie season, 1976-77.

He was traded in 1989 along with Tony McKegney to Detroit for Adam Oates and Paul MacLean (now both head coaches).

MacLean would retire a Blue.

Oates would be traded for Craig Janney and Stephane Quintal in 1992.

Janney was awarded to Vancouver as compensation for the RFA signing of Petr Nedved in 1994. St. Louis then traded Jeff Brown, Nathan Lafayette, and Bret Hedican to get him back (transaction completed within a week of the arbitration ruling).

Janney was traded to San Jose in 1995 for Jeff Norton.

Norton was traded to Edmonton with Donald Dufresne in 1996 for Igor Kravchuk and Ken Sutton.

Sutton was traded in 1996 for Mike Peluso (who played through 1997-98) and Ricard Persson, who remained with the club until the end of 1999-2000.

Kravchuk was traded in 1997 for Steve Duchesne (round 2!), who left in 1998 as a free agent.

Stephane Quintal was traded to Winnipeg with Nelson Emerson in 1993 for Phil Housley.

Housley was traded to Calgary with 2 picks for Al MacInnis and 1 pick. Among those picks was current Flames player Steve Begin, but the Blues ended up with nothing from Didier Tremblay. MacInnis ended up playing out his career with the Blues, retiring after 2003-04.

So that's a chain lasting 28 seasons that starts with the drafting of HHOFer Bernie Federko and ends with the retirement of HHOFer Al MacInnis.

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Eric Lindros trade can still be traced and includes Paul Stastny atm I believe.

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04-12-2013, 09:05 PM
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As close to the O6 as LA can get - from the very first skater in Kings history, to a prospect who needs to be called up or traded for this to work...

Gord Labossiere Claimed by Los Angeles from Montreal in Expansion Draft, June 6, 1967.

Traded to Montreal by Los Angeles with Ray Fortin for Ralph Backstrom, January 26, 1971.

Traded to Chicago by Los Angeles for Dan Maloney, February 26, 1973.

Traded to Detroit by Los Angeles with Terry Harper and Los Angeles' 2nd round choice (later traded to Minnesota - Minnesota selected Jim Roberts) in 1976 Amateur Draft for Marcel Dionne and Bart Crashley, June 23, 1975.

Traded to NY Rangers by Los Angeles with Jeff Crossman and Los Angeles' 3rd round choice (later traded to Minnesota - Minnesota selected Murray Garbutt) in 1989 Entry Draft for Bob Carpenter and Tom Laidlaw, March 10, 1987.

Traded to Boston by Los Angeles for Steve Kasper to complete transaction that sent Jay Miller to Los Angeles (January 22, 1989), January 23, 1989.

Traded to Philadelphia by Los Angeles with Steve Duchesne and Los Angeles' 4th round choice (Aris Brimanis) in 1991 Entry Draft for Jari Kurri and Jeff Chychrun, May 30, 1991.

Traded to NY Rangers by Los Angeles with Marty McSorley and Shane Churla for Ray Ferraro, Ian Laperriere, Mattias Norstrom, Nathan LaFayette and NY Rangers' 4th round choice (Sean Blanchard) in 1997 Entry Draft, March 14, 1996.

Traded to Dallas by Los Angeles with Konstantin Pushkarev and Los Angeles' 3rd (Sergei Korostin) and 4th (later traded to Columbus - Columbus selected Maxim Mayorov) round choices in 2007 Entry Draft for Jaroslav Modry, the rights to Johan Fransson, Dallas' 2nd (Oscar Moller) and 3rd (Bryan Cameron) round choices in 2007 Entry Draft and Dallas' 1st round choice (later traded to Phoenix - Phoenix selected Viktor Tikhonov) in 2008 Entry Draft, February 27, 2007.

Traded to Philadelphia by Los Angeles for Philadelphia's 3rd round choice (Geordie Wudrick) in 2008 Entry Draft, February 19, 2008.

So we're just waiting on Wudrick to be called up or traded for a present NHLer.

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04-13-2013, 10:08 AM
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Kent Nilsson
Drafted by Atlanta in 1976
Reclaimed by Atlanta from Winnipeg prior to Expansion Draft, June 9, 1979.

Traded to Minnesota by Calgary with Calgary's 3rd round choice (Brad Turner) in 1986 Entry Draft for Minnesota's 2nd round choice (Joe Nieuwendyk) in 1985 Entry Draft and 2nd round choice (Stephane Matteau) in 1987 Entry Draft, June 15, 1985.

Traded to Dallas by Calgary for Corey Millen and Jarome Iginla, December 19, 1995

And Iginla was traded for two prospects and a First Rounder who has pretty big shoes to fill (Nilsson, Nieuwendyk, Iginla,

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^Came here to post that. 37 years and still unbroken.

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I know one piece in the Gretzky trade lasted 14 years for edmonton. It started with Jimmy Carson and ended with Tyler Moss.

Larry Murphy

1983: Traded to the Caps for Brian Engblom
86: Engblom for Baumgartner
89: Baumgartner for Makela
90: Makela for Donnely
95: Donnely to Dallas for a 4th rounder which is included in the trade for Dafoe and Khristich
Dafoe and Kristich is later traded to Boston for Stumpel and Moger
Stumpel gets traded to boston for allison and eloranta
trail stops in 03 with Eloranta (20 years)

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I could also mention that Dale Hawerchuk trade from the Jets is still going on as it ends with Visentin and Oscar Lindberg (who later was traded to the rangers for Ethan Werek).

Hawerchuk was drafted in 81 so thats 32 years and going

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As close to the O6 as LA can get - from the very first skater in Kings history, to a prospect who needs to be called up or traded for this to work...

Gord Labossiere Claimed by Los Angeles from Montreal in Expansion Draft, June 6, 1967.

Traded to Montreal by Los Angeles with Ray Fortin for Ralph Backstrom, January 26, 1971.

Traded to Chicago by Los Angeles for Dan Maloney, February 26, 1973.

Traded to Detroit by Los Angeles with Terry Harper and Los Angeles' 2nd round choice (later traded to Minnesota - Minnesota selected Jim Roberts) in 1976 Amateur Draft for Marcel Dionne and Bart Crashley, June 23, 1975.

Traded to NY Rangers by Los Angeles with Jeff Crossman and Los Angeles' 3rd round choice (later traded to Minnesota - Minnesota selected Murray Garbutt) in 1989 Entry Draft for Bob Carpenter and Tom Laidlaw, March 10, 1987.

Traded to Boston by Los Angeles for Steve Kasper to complete transaction that sent Jay Miller to Los Angeles (January 22, 1989), January 23, 1989.

Traded to Philadelphia by Los Angeles with Steve Duchesne and Los Angeles' 4th round choice (Aris Brimanis) in 1991 Entry Draft for Jari Kurri and Jeff Chychrun, May 30, 1991.

Traded to NY Rangers by Los Angeles with Marty McSorley and Shane Churla for Ray Ferraro, Ian Laperriere, Mattias Norstrom, Nathan LaFayette and NY Rangers' 4th round choice (Sean Blanchard) in 1997 Entry Draft, March 14, 1996.

Traded to Dallas by Los Angeles with Konstantin Pushkarev and Los Angeles' 3rd (Sergei Korostin) and 4th (later traded to Columbus - Columbus selected Maxim Mayorov) round choices in 2007 Entry Draft for Jaroslav Modry, the rights to Johan Fransson, Dallas' 2nd (Oscar Moller) and 3rd (Bryan Cameron) round choices in 2007 Entry Draft and Dallas' 1st round choice (later traded to Phoenix - Phoenix selected Viktor Tikhonov) in 2008 Entry Draft, February 27, 2007.

Traded to Philadelphia by Los Angeles for Philadelphia's 3rd round choice (Geordie Wudrick) in 2008 Entry Draft, February 19, 2008.

So we're just waiting on Wudrick to be called up or traded for a present NHLer.
Wudrick was never signed after he was drafted so the link is dead.

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Gordie Howe (1946-71 with Detroit) by himself!

I supposed that you could follow Chris Chelios too. Montreal, Chicago, Detroit; he had a long career in the NHL, so he must have some assets threads.

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1985 - 2008

Wendel Clark 1st overall pick by Toronto.
Traded for Sundin in 1993.
Sundin played in Toronto until 2008.

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Esa Tikkanen - drafted in the 1983 entry draft by Edmonton
- traded to the NY Rangers in 1993 for Doug Weight.
- Doug Weight was traded to St.Louis in 2001 for Reasoner and Hecht.
- Reasoner was traded to Boston along with the pick that turned out to be Lucic for Samsonov in the spring of 2006, Samsonov left as a free agent in the summer of 2006, so that part of the asset died then.
- Hecht however was traded to Buffalo in 2002 for picks which turned into Deslauriers and more notably Jarret Stoll.
- Stoll was traded with Greene to L.A. in 2008 for Lubomir Visnovsky.
- Visnovsky was traded to Anaheim in 2010 for Ryan Whitney and a 6th round pick which became Brandon Davidson who had an unfortunate bout with cancer and is now in the AHL I believe.

So picking Esa Tikkanen 30 years ago translated into having Ryan Whitney (and a long shot prospect) now. For what it's worth, this asset will probably die at the end of this year.

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i love (actually, as a canucks fan i hate) the barry pederson one. but here's another crazy long boston thread, which ends with pederson's old running mate.

doug mohns, signed 1953
mohns traded to chicago for reggie fleming and ab mcdonald in 1965
a. mcdonald traded to detroit with bob mccord and ken stephanson for albert langlois, ron harris, bob dillabough, and parker macdonald in 1965
p. mcdonald traded back to detroit for pit martin later in 1965
martin traded to chicago with jack norris for phil esposito, fred stanfield, and ken hodge in 1967
hodge traded to new york rangers for rick middleton in 1976
middleton retires in 1988

35 years. two more years until the pederson asset catches up.

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Boston: Barry Pederson to Milan Lucic, 1980-2013

Barry Pederson Drafted 1st Round, 1980

June 6, 1986: Traded to Vancouver by Boston for Cam Neely and Vancouver's 1st round choice (Glen Wesley) in 1987 Entry Draft, June 6, 1986.

August 26, 1994: Traded to Hartford by Boston for Hartford's 1st round choices in 1995 (Kyle McLaren), 1996 (Johnathan Aitken) and 1997 (Sergei Samsonov) Entry Drafts, August 26, 1994.

March 9, 2006: Traded to Edmonton by Boston for Marty Reasoner, Yan Stastny and Edmonton's 2nd round choice (Milan Lucic) in 2006 Entry Draft, March 9, 2006.

That's one hell of a trade chain for the Bruins.
also, kyle mclaren becomes brad boyes, who becomes dennis wideman, who is now nathan horton. ugh.

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Eric Lindros trade can still be traced and includes Paul Stastny atm I believe.
I'm currently researching the full impact of the Lindros trade and I can say with confidence -- this one will eventually be the king of them all. There are literally dozens of active players and draft picks as late as 2015 involved.

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The cool thing about the Pederson chain is that there were no additional assets tossed in for ensuing trades. The Milan Lucic draft choice was "paid for" entirely by the fruits of the fruits of the initial trade asset.

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