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Most overrated: Tavares or Datsyuk?

View Poll Results: Most overrated player on HFboards?
John Tavares 61 44.85%
Pavel Datsyuk 75 55.15%
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04-11-2013, 09:05 PM
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Except for being called the best player in the world the rest are true he is a top 5 player, and the rest he can be argued for.
Top 5 is arguable, best defensive is arguable. At best.

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04-11-2013, 09:24 PM
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Quantitatively, it has to be Subban. His metrics are terrible for a player that is valued as much as he is (QoC, etc.). Don't get me wrong, he's a very good player (top 10 d-man with norris potential, etc.) but he's not nearly the talent people are comparing him to. For example, Karlsson, who is a top 5 player in this league is apparently worthy of comparison.

Couturier would be my other pick. I don't think he's proven anything in this league. He has the name and everything, but he's over-hyped. I don't think he rounds out as a #1C in this league at all. If it weren't for his pre-draft hype, people wouldn't value him as highly. Obviously, this opinion is going to ruffle some feathers.
...Here we go... Watch Subban before actuallly dissing him, you'll understand.

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04-11-2013, 09:25 PM
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Except for being called the best player in the world the rest are true he is a top 5 player, and the rest he can be argued for.
Only thing arguable is being the best 2 way player. Which he's not but the case can be argued for. He is not better then Crosby, stamkos, Malkin, Tavares, Kovy, ovy, and even his own teammate zetterberg.

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04-11-2013, 09:56 PM
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How is Tavares overrated?

Datsyuk is probably the most overrated on HF. (people actually anoint him the best player...)

Followed by,

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Parise
Hall
Giroux
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Have you seen the Tavares a Top 2 player in the world thread?

Yea, Tavares is easily the most overrated. Not even a PPG+ season yet and he is considered to be god himself.

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04-11-2013, 10:00 PM
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Taylor Hall.


Oilers fans are the only ones who show appreciation for Halls game, when 29/30 teams fan bases bash the player I don't understand how he could possibly be overrated. Oh well.

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04-11-2013, 10:47 PM
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04-11-2013, 11:28 PM
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I think Tavares might be underrated if anything.

This is Datsyuk for me.

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04-12-2013, 12:10 AM
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I don't think any player in the NHL would say Datsyuk is the best in the world. They would say he has the best hands, that's probably about it.


Here you go:

Pavel Datsyuk is currently the best player in the world - peers agree

http://www.washingtontimes.com/blog/...red-wings-nhl/

Hossa who played on a line with Crosby says Datysuk is the best player he's ever played with.

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I hate when people say a player on a team they only see 1-4 times a year is "overrated". You cannot accurately judge a player unless you see him play every game. That said, neither Datsyuk or Tavares is overrated in my opinion. I've only seen Datsyuk a handful of times, but I've seen him do some amazing things with the puck and he won 3 straight Selke's. He's had 2 80+ seasons and 2 90+ seasons and has 756 points in 770 career games. I see Tavares a little more since he plays the Rangers often, but he's close to a PPG for his career and I think, very close to being a superstar.

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04-12-2013, 12:55 AM
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Only thing arguable is being the best 2 way player. Which he's not but the case can be argued for. He is not better then Crosby, stamkos, Malkin, Tavares, Kovy, ovy, and even his own teammate zetterberg.
He's not better than Zetterberg? He is a tier above Zetterberg.

So now the rest of your post is irrelevant if you dont know what youre talking about.

I dont see how ppl say hes overrated when you get posts like this...

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I think Tavares might be underrated if anything.

This is Datsyuk for me.
WHAT. So you're saying Tavares is actually the best player in the world? Cause you know there is a thread were someone is claiming Tavares to be the #2 player in the world.

And, in that thread, a lot of people are putting Tavares in there Top 3's and 5's....


Underrated is not a word one should use to describe Tavares at this point.

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04-12-2013, 06:30 AM
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Tavares if I had to choose but none are. Datsyuk gets alot of praise and he is really great.

If we are really get into overrated then it's Parise, Getzlaf, Voracek, giroux, Del Zotto, Halak, Crawford, Quick, OEL. Names that come to mind.

Oh and also who can forget Alfredsson. And the Sedins.

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Tavares.

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Both of them aren't overrated...

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Pavel Datsyuk, great hockey player but way overrated on these boards IMHO

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Taylor Hall.
Yes the guy some people say is worse than Tyler Seguin is overrated.

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How many Datsyuk overrated threads do we have to do?

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04-12-2013, 09:51 AM
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Datsyuk-AINEC.

Yea, he's "Top 5"-never won a hart. Never won an Art Ross. Never won a player MVP. Never won a Conn Smythe.

He's consistently a top 10 player-but he's only been a top 5 once imo.

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Neither of them. Both top 5 forwards.

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Uh...neither? Though if I had to pick between these two, definitely Tavares. How is Datsyuk overrated?
this was my exact thought and action when i read this poll

im going to get it probably, but i think Karlsson is the most overrated.

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I don't think either guy is overrated.

Should have made Jakob Voracek one of the options. There's a thread around here saying he's better than Claude Giroux.

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Only thing arguable is being the best 2 way player. Which he's not but the case can be argued for. He is not better then Crosby, stamkos, Malkin, Tavares, Kovy, ovy, and even his own teammate zetterberg.
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Datsyuk, AINEC.
That abbr. has never been more fitting.

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