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04-17-2013, 06:49 AM
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Edwin had 3 consecutive hits last night.

Arencibia has been the best hitting catcher in baseball this season, why pick on him?

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As of yesterday's games:

Carlos Santana is OPSing 1.466, John Buck OPSing 1.066, Gattis has 1.007, Wilin Rosario 1.089, Mauer .996, Saltalamacchia .938, Wellington Castillo .897, Ramos (before injury) .991, Hundley .899...

Arencibia was at .848.

Then you've got part time guys like Cervelli, Shoppach, Suzuki, Norris who are OPSing above JPA as well.

Obviously these numbers are strangely high, and a lot of these guys aren't going to sustain them, but JPA is definitely NOT the best hitting catcher in the bigs right now.

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Edwin had 3 consecutive hits last night.

Arencibia has been the best hitting catcher in baseball this season, why pick on him?

Fairweather fans
Prepare to be flamed. JP could have 10 homers right now and would still "suck".

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is it just me or did lawrie look really slim yesterday? Last year, he seemed much more muscular and buff.

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is it just me or did lawrie look really slim yesterday? Last year, he seems much more muscular and buff.


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Knowing the 5th batter will be a lefty Rasmus will get some praise and bat 5th tomorrow.


Rasmus - .262/.340/.619/.959 vs Lind: .222/.293/.306/.598

It will show some confidence in him too. He didn't look to happy after he was taken out of the game so this will give him some confidence. If Lind bats 5th again i'm gonna throw up.
Rasmus is hitting .368 on Balls in Play which is completely unsustainable and striking out 40.4 percent of the time. Predictive stats say that either that K% goes down by quite a bit, or when he hits his slump, his numbers are going to fall off the face of the earth (kinda like they did last year).

Lind, on the other hand has a good BB rate, an extreme K rate (7%!), and is only hitting .235 on balls in play. Add in a little more luck (he's more than 30 points below his previous worst BABIP) and a little more pop, and you have a great Adam Lind. Even without the pop coming, he's still an effective hitter if more balls start going through.

So far, Arencibia and Rasmus have great numbers, but ones which can't be sustained (due to massive K%s).

Bautista, Encarnacion, Izturis, and Lind have been unlucky on their balls in play, or else they'd have much better numbers so far.

Bonifacio somehow forgot how to take a walk (although hopefully that is changing).

Melky has no power. He's hitting well, but there is no extra bases. Might be an adjustment thing (hitting more to the gaps) or it might be something that goes on all year.

If you want a legitimate beef, it's that Blanco and DeRosa have no business being on this team. Blanco is a defensive catcher who sucks at defense and DeRosa just isn't good at all (and isn't flexible position wise either).

We've also seen a lack of SB, a lack of speed, and Chad Mottola only seems to be coaching Lind and maybe the new guys, since everyone's splits are where they were under Murphy (or before this year)

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04-17-2013, 09:30 AM
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So far, Arencibia and Rasmus have great numbers, but ones which can't be sustained (due to massive K%s).

Bautista, Encarnacion, Izturis, and Lind have been unlucky on their balls in play, or else they'd have much better numbers so far.
Tell that to Adam Dunn and Mark Reynolds of yesteryear.

Izturis may have a low BAIBIP but it doesn't mean he's getting unlucky. He's been hitting weak ground balls, popups and shallow fly balls. He's just a poor hitter.

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Tell that to Adam Dunn and Mark Reynolds of yesteryear.

Izturis may have a low BAIBIP but it doesn't mean he's getting unlucky. He's been hitting weak ground balls, popups and shallow fly balls. He's just a poor hitter.
You mean the Adam Dunn who once OPSed .892 with a 30% K rate (and was never above 29 before that)?

Reynolds had a .844 on 31.2, a .806 on 31.6 and an .892 on 33.7. He also had an extreme BABIP in his .844 year.

Rasmus is currently 58 points ahead in OPS while striking out 6.7% more than the highest of those players' seasons (and the .892 for Reynolds was a 44 HR year). To put things in perspective, Rasmus is currently OPS'ing around 1.600 when he doesn't strike out.

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Tell that to Adam Dunn and Mark Reynolds of yesteryear.

Izturis may have a low BAIBIP but it doesn't mean he's getting unlucky. He's been hitting weak ground balls, popups and shallow fly balls. He's just a poor hitter.
Even so, he's only hitting .143 when he puts the ball in play. The lowest last year of anyone with at least 400AB was Russell Martin at .222. Simply put, if you put the ball in play, it is occassionally gonna go through.

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You mean the Adam Dunn who once OPSed .892 with a 30% K rate (and was never above 29 before that)?

Reynolds had a .844 on 31.2, a .806 on 31.6 and an .892 on 33.7. He also had an extreme BABIP in his .844 year.

Rasmus is currently 58 points ahead in OPS while striking out 6.7% more than the highest of those players' seasons (and the .892 for Reynolds was a 44 HR year). To put things in perspective, Rasmus is currently OPS'ing around 1.600 when he doesn't strike out.

Even so, he's only hitting .143 when he puts the ball in play. The lowest last year of anyone with at least 400AB was Russell Martin at .222. Simply put, if you put the ball in play, it is occassionally gonna go through.
Those are similar numbers. You can expect both the strikeouts and OPS to come down, to around those numbers is within possibility. You can have a high OPS with a ridiculously high strikeout rate.

He's only hitting .143 with balls put in play because he's got awful contact. These are balls that if they made it through they would be errors. BABIP doesn't note the difference between line drives and soft contact. Lind it makes sense because he's been hitting balls hard, but Izturis goes up, makes poor contact and goes back down.

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Those are similar numbers. You can expect both the strikeouts and OPS to come down, to around those numbers is within possibility. You can have a high OPS with a ridiculously high strikeout rate.

He's only hitting .143 with balls put in play because he's got awful contact. These are balls that if they made it through they would be errors. BABIP doesn't note the difference between line drives and soft contact. Lind it makes sense because he's been hitting balls hard, but Izturis goes up, makes poor contact and goes back down.
That's a 12% difference to the nearest season! To put that in perspective, Reynolds (who is closest) put up a .892 on 33.7% strikeouts. Adjusting that up to 40.4% using the same rate stats, he'd have an .802 OPS or adjusting the .892 up to .959 (by reducing K rate), he'd have had to have a 28.7 K rate.

Izturis won't make poor contact forever. That in itself is a product of luck and timing. A fraction of an inch is the difference between missing, poor contact, and good contact.

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Lawrie does look really skinny i mean he dosnt look like Lawrie its really weird

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As of yesterday's games:

Carlos Santana is OPSing 1.466, John Buck OPSing 1.066, Gattis has 1.007, Wilin Rosario 1.089, Mauer .996, Saltalamacchia .938, Wellington Castillo .897, Ramos (before injury) .991, Hundley .899...

Arencibia was at .848.

Then you've got part time guys like Cervelli, Shoppach, Suzuki, Norris who are OPSing above JPA as well.

Obviously these numbers are strangely high, and a lot of these guys aren't going to sustain them, but JPA is definitely NOT the best hitting catcher in the bigs right now.
His ops is .918... why use his ops from the game before he went deep? Seems convenient. If Jp has a .918 ops over the whole year he would almost certainly be the best hitting catcher in the MLB. Anyone who has complaints with JP so far this season are out of their minds.

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I would love to see us offer Rasmus up for a permanent solution at 2B. A guy like Jose Altuve could be an interesting add.

It's not that Rasmus doesn't bring value. It's just that the guy he's keeping in the minors is arguably just as good (Gose put up .6 in 56 games last year while playing most of those in a corner outfield spot).

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His ops is .918... why use his ops from the game before he went deep? Seems convenient. If Jp has a .918 ops over the whole year he would almost certainly be the best hitting catcher in the MLB. Anyone who has complaints with JP so far this season are out of their minds.
I used yesterdays numbers BC for some reason Yahoo hasn't updated the stats for yesterdays games. I didn't realize until I was halfway through the post.

not disagreeing that he's been hitting well, simply disagreeing that he's the best hitting catcher in baseball. Santana is the best hitting catcher in baseball right now.

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Prepare to be flamed. JP could have 10 homers right now and would still "suck".
don't worry, i'm prepared for it and willing to go at any JP hater with irrefutable statistical proof that he is not the reason we are two games under .500. The people who think JP is our problem are clearly the fans who just started watching this season. Sure, last season and the years before JP struck out way to much. His numbers, having 13k and 1bb need to improve vastly, but he has been good. Even with striking out so much he had a pretty avg ops for catchers last season. He still has room to grow and has looked better at the plate despite his lack of walks.

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His ops is .918... why use his ops from the game before he went deep? Seems convenient. If Jp has a .918 ops over the whole year he would almost certainly be the best hitting catcher in the MLB. Anyone who has complaints with JP so far this season are out of their minds.
Buster Posey put up better last year. And no they aren't. They are pointing out the flaws in his game. He's a good power hitting catcher who strikes out too much (which often kills rallies), doesn't walk enough, and who doesn't hit enough doubles.

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It's Waiver Wednesday at MLBTR! Ok, I might've just made that up. But the previous post I wrote about players who have been claimed off waivers multiple times in the past calendar year got me wondering which GMs have been the most active on the waiver wire in that same span. So, without further ado, here's the list, courtesy of MLBTR's Transaction Tracker (and I doubt you'll be surprised with who's at the top):

Alex Anthopoulos, Blue Jays: 22 claims
Brian Cashman, Yankees: 14 claims
Jed Hoyer, Cubs: 10 claims
Dan Duquette, Orioles: 8 claims
Billy Beane, Athletics: 8 claims
Chris Antonetti, Indians: 8 claims
Jeff Luhnow, Astros: 7 claims
Kevin Towers, Diamondbacks: 5 claims
Dayton Moore, Royals: 5 claims
Neal Huntington, Pirates: 5 claims
Josh Byrnes, Padres: 5 claims
Jon Daniels, Rangers: 5 claims
Doug Melvin, Brewers: 4 claims
Terry Ryan, Twins: 3 claims
Brian Sabean, Giants: 3 claims
Larry Beinfest, Marlins: 3 claims
Frank Wren, Braves: 2 claims
Ben Cherington, Red Sox: 2 claims
Rick Hahn/Kenny Williams, White Sox: 2 claims
Jerry Dipoto, Angels: 2 claims
Sandy Alderson, Mets: 2 claims
Ruben Amaro Jr., Phillies: 2 claims
Andrew Friedman, Rays: 2 claims
Dave Dombrowski, Tigers: 1 claim
Jack Zduriencik, Mariners: 1 claim
John Mozeliak, Cardinals: 1 claim
Mike Rizzo, Nationals: 1 claim

http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2013/0...iver-wire.html

Not surprising but AA is by far the most active GM on the waiver wire.

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don't worry, i'm prepared for it and willing to go at any JP hater with irrefutable statistical proof that he is not the reason we are two games under .500. The people who think JP is our problem are clearly the fans who just started watching this season. Sure, last season and the years before JP struck out way to much. His numbers, having 13k and 1bb need to improve vastly, but he has been good. Even with striking out so much he had a pretty avg ops for catchers last season. He still has room to grow and has looked better at the plate despite his lack of walks.
We're two games under 500 because of horrible first two starts from each of our top 4, a couple of questionable decisions by our manager (though to be fair, he's still learning who can do what, so how would he know that Bonifacio can't throw anyone out from right)

We've also had some poor offensive numbers...Dwayne Murphy still seems to be doing way too much with our hitters.

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don't worry, i'm prepared for it and willing to go at any JP hater with irrefutable statistical proof that he is not the reason we are two games under .500. The people who think JP is our problem are clearly the fans who just started watching this season. Sure, last season and the years before JP struck out way to much. His numbers, having 13k and 1bb need to improve vastly, but he has been good. Even with striking out so much he had a pretty avg ops for catchers last season. He still has room to grow and has looked better at the plate despite his lack of walks.
I think that's what so many people find so frustrating with jp though. he's got the natural power and athleticism to be a too 10 catcher at the very least. but he needs to think the game better. both i.e. terms of calling the game (Santos homerun in game 2) and hitting (swinging rate on balls out of the zone).

same issue with Colby physically they could be stars, and there's still time, but jpa as an average starter would be disappointing. I hope he gets it together to be something better than what he is now

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I'm amazed that Rasmus and Arencibia are getting heat. Especially Arencibia. Striking out isn't really an issue when you're hitting like he is.

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I think that's what so many people find so frustrating with jp though. he's got the natural power and athleticism to be a too 10 catcher at the very least. but he needs to think the game better. both i.e. terms of calling the game (Santos homerun in game 2) and hitting (swinging rate on balls out of the zone).

same issue with Colby physically they could be stars, and there's still time, but jpa as an average starter would be disappointing. I hope he gets it together to be something better than what he is now
JP is actually having his best stat for not swinging at pitches outside the zone 34% versus previous low of 35.4%. Only making contact with 52% of them is contributing to his K rate. (not using Pitch F/X).

His season isn't that far off his 2011 in terms of strike numbers, which would be good (though he has struggled with contact in general this year compared to other years).

Rasmus on the other hand is swinging at as many balls as he has and is actually swinging at less strikes this year. His contact rate is currently 20% below his other years. (65.9 versus 85.4 as next low).

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I'm amazed that Rasmus and Arencibia are getting heat. Especially Arencibia. Striking out isn't really an issue when you're hitting like he is.
Any heat they might get stems from the idiotic decision to put them near one another in the batting order. Having a guy that swings for the fences isn't terrible if there are guys who don't near them in the lineup. In a perfect world, one should hit 5th and the other should hit 8th or 9th. That way if the first guy gets out, we have Lawrie, Lind (who thus far has abandoned the power mantra completely) and one of Bonifacio, Izturis, or Davis to potentially hit before the other.

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Colby drives me insane. The game on Monday (I think), his second AB...Strikes 2/3 were the EXACT same pitch in the EXACT same spot, WAY out of the zone (down and in), Colby took the EXACT same hack both times and missed HUGE. Obviously I'm looking at these pitches from the comfort of my own couch, and it's totally different at the plate, but I've gotta think you make it to the majors with SOME kind of pitch recognition. The pitches were like carbon copies of one another.

And then he hits the easiest homerun I've ever seen in my life yesterday.

His single total is equal to his home run total...how does that even work. No weak contact ever. Only dingers.

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TORONTO — In some ways the remade Toronto Blue Jays owe the visiting Chicago White Sox a debt of gratitude, since it was their exploration of trade possibilities for Jake Peavy back in October that helped set the stage for Alex Anthopoulos to pull off November’s blockbuster with the Miami Marlins.

A few weeks before that franchise-altering deal went down, the general manager was close to acquiring the 2007 NL Cy Young Award winner from the South Siders, whose $22-million club option for 2013 was due to be declined in favour of a $4-million buyout.

But things fell apart Oct. 30 when the right-hander agreed to a $29-million, two-year extension with an option for 2015, according to multiple sources.
http://www.sportsnet.ca/baseball/mlb...-of-gratitude/

Also, the trade that almost went through before the Marlins blockbuster was in fact for Jake Peavy.

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