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EDM move up in the draft with either CAR, PHI, or TB

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04-13-2013, 01:18 PM
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EDM move up in the draft with either CAR, PHI, or TB

If EDM finishes 9th what would it take to move up in the draft with the following teams:
CAR currently 4th looking at Barkov
TB currently 5th looking at Monahan
PHI currently 6th looking at Monahan

What would have to be added to our 9th to get one of those picks, I know CAR would be the highest. We have two 2nd round picks ours and ANA's and prospects that might interest you in Marincin, Musil, Gernat, Lander.

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Why would Edmonton want to move up? They would want to move down and acquire more assets that can help the team NOW. IMO the pick is in play.

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A lot in 2011 when Ottawa had 6 the price to move up was crazy I think Edmonton will just stay where they are and draft from their.

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If EDM finishes 9th what would it take to move up in the draft with the following teams:
CAR currently 4th looking at Barkov
TB currently 5th looking at Monahan
PHI currently 6th looking at Monahan

What would have to be added to our 9th to get one of those picks, I know CAR would be the highest. We have two 2nd round picks ours and ANA's and prospects that might interest you in Marincin, Musil, Gernat, Lander.
If Edm wants to move up and make a deal with the bolts. What we would need is their first and a top Defensive prospect. So yeah......don't see EDM doing that deal.

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It would probably take 1st + Klefbom for the Oilers to move up in the 4-6 area

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If EDM finishes 9th what would it take to move up in the draft with the following teams:
CAR currently 4th looking at Barkov
TB currently 5th looking at Monahan
PHI currently 6th looking at Monahan

What would have to be added to our 9th to get one of those picks, I know CAR would be the highest. We have two 2nd round picks ours and ANA's and prospects that might interest you in Marincin, Musil, Gernat, Lander.
Canes are not interested in dropping back out of the top 5 merely to acquire an extra 2nd round pick. No one would.

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Why would Edmonton want to move up? They would want to move down and acquire more assets that can help the team NOW. IMO the pick is in play.
Nah. They're not even a playoff team. I think they'll be happy picking wherever they end up.

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Considering the drop-off after the percieved top-6, I'd imagine the price would be along the lines of EDM 1st, Klefbom or EDM 1st, Paajarvi, +. Not really ideal for the Oilers, especially when they'll be in a good position to pick up a high quality defensive prospect.


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Just stop winning and pick in the top 6.

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The reason Edmonton wants to move up is because Tambellini and the scouting staff don't know how to draft after the Top 5.

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The reason Edmonton wants to move up is because Tambellini and the scouting staff don't know how to draft after the Top 5.
They'll end up winning the lottery anyways!

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if they're in the need for a defensive prospect, I don't see the need for them to move up. I'd assume Nurse, Pulock, or Ristolainen will probably still there.

but I really don't know what Edmonton's needs are.

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Premature thread... considering EDM is only 1 pt up on PHI and on a long losing streak..
Only 3 pts up on Tampa...

Too many assumptions here so lets wait and see where they finish..

I think Monahan goes before Nichushkin and maybe even Barkov when its all said and done.

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if they're in the need for a defensive prospect, I don't see the need for them to move up. I'd assume Nurse, Pulock, or Ristolainen will probably still there.

but I really don't know what Edmonton's needs are.
One thing is for sure... EDM wont be drafting a winger or anyone under 6'0

If Jones>Barkov>Monahan>Nurse are gone they'll take Lazar or Zadorov

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One thing is for sure... EDM wont be drafting a winger or anyone under 6'0

If Jones>Barkov>Monahan>Nurse are gone they'll take Lazar or Zadorov
You pick BPA or trade down.

Reaching for players ends up badly.

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It would probably take 1st + Klefbom for the Oilers to move up in the 4-6 area
It definitely wouldn't.. TOR moved from 7-5 in '08 with a 2nd and 3rd. Edmonton has a couple 2nd's they could use to make it happen.

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It would probably take 1st + Klefbom for the Oilers to move up in the 4-6 area
Highly doubt it. 9th+2 2nds should get the deal done for 5th.

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You pick BPA or trade down.

Reaching for players ends up badly.
There isnt realy much in terms of reach with Lazar going in top 10.
Tambo openly mentioned that he was willing to draft for need last draft.. I guess the same would go for this year..
If Drouin and Barkov are both on the table.. EDM will pick Barkov

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The way I was thinking is that those teams could use dmen prospects so if they dropped down to 9th could get Nurse plus a dman prospect like Marincin who already has one year in the AHL so is closer to NHL ready. CAR and PHI are pretty well set in their top 6. So to get two dmen prospects like Nurse and Marincin would make sense to me. I know to move up to CAR's spot it would take a bit more than 9th and Marincin so what would it be.

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There isnt realy much in terms of reach with Lazar going in top 10.
Tambo openly mentioned that he was willing to draft for need last draft.. I guess the same would go for this year..
If Drouin and Barkov are both on the table.. EDM will pick Barkov
Here is a good article on the draft they have Lazar 16. Would EDM trade down a bit and get another 2nd then get Lazar around 12 or 13 or not risk it.

http://nhlnumbers.com/2013/4/13/2013...eri-nichushkin

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Premature thread... considering EDM is only 1 pt up on PHI and on a long losing streak..
Only 3 pts up on Tampa...

Too many assumptions here so lets wait and see where they finish..

I think Monahan goes before Nichushkin and maybe even Barkov when its all said and done.
Two points up on PHI but taking a look at the teams schedule and how both of them are playing I think there won't be much movement. I would be ok with EDM dropping down so they can get Monahan.

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Highly doubt it. 9th+2 2nds should get the deal done for 5th.
Yeah, I particularly doubt that, especially since Anaheim's 2nd will be very late.

Besides, would you give up on Monahan or Lindholm and get a quite inferior player for an early second and a late second? I sure as hell would not.

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Does Edmonton need another Center? That is what they would be getting moving up to 4-6.

Their need is Defense. If they were around 8-10 they would be able to get a Dman.

I honestly think Carolina would be the best target because they dont need a center. They would be more open to adding picks/players.

One possible deal would be:

TO CAR: EDM #1 + Paaj
TO EDM: CAR #1 + CAR #2

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Does Edmonton need another Center? That is what they would be getting moving up to 4-6.

Their need is Defense. If they were around 8-10 they would be able to get a Dman.

I honestly think Carolina would be the best target because they dont need a center. They would be more open to adding picks/players.

One possible deal would be:

TO CAR: EDM #1 + Paaj
TO EDM: CAR #1 + CAR #2
If CAR finished 4th and wants to move down, they will get significantly better offers, IMO.

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Why would Edmonton want to move up? They would want to move down and acquire more assets that can help the team NOW. IMO the pick is in play.
some oiler fans have fallen in love with high picks and oblivious to the fact the kind of player they need is not found in the top 5-- With players like Hall, Gagner, yakupovNuge, Schultz, and Eberle--they have the top end skill--but none of those guys could fight there way out of a wet paper bag on a good day and they do not have the ability to get under someone skins.

Oilers have a few glaring needs that are becoming more and more obvious as each game goes a along and too fill those needs at some point in time they will be trading someone to get it and when that day comes it will be fun watching my fellow oiler fan

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