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What happens with the Canucks goalie situation?

View Poll Results: What happens with Vncouver's goaltending this summer?
They keep both Schneider/Luongo. 1 2.38%
Luongo is traded WITH assets. (ie 1st rounder or Nucks keep some salary) 9 21.43%
Luongo is traded FOR assets. 21 50.00%
Canucks buy out Luongo for 29M. 5 11.90%
Schneider ends up being trade as no one wants to touch Luongo. 6 14.29%
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04-14-2013, 10:55 PM
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What happens with the Canucks goalie situation?

Im curious to know how this will all play out this summer as we all are!

What do you think happens?


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either the Canucks eat some salary or buy him out.

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Im thinking Schneinder is traded.

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04-14-2013, 11:23 PM
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Pretty stupid question/answers.

Keeping both is not an option after this year.

Trading Schneider is also not an option. They would buy Luongo out before it got to that.

"Trading Luongo WITH assets"

Are you actually suggesting that Gillis would trade Luongo AND an asset for nothing? Why would he do that when a buy-out is an option, and not lose the asset?


There are really 2 options. Trade him or buy-out. I believe that someone will be willing to give up something for him, not that it would be anything that would break the bank. Worst case scenario, buy-out.

LOL at trading Schneider. You wish.

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04-14-2013, 11:25 PM
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If Schneider plays fine in the playoffs, Luongo will be traded for something average in the offseason.

If Schneider plays absolutely terrible in the playoffs consistently (really bad), I think they will keep Lu. Either way, one of them is getting traded this offseason.

There will be no buy-out. That is just a load of rubbish. We make not get the best trade possible for Lu, but there will someone willing to take him off of our hands. That is certain.

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At this point, I have no idea.

One thing is for sure, I can't wait until I can stop hearing the East's opinion on this.

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I just listed all possible(even if unlikely) scenarios.

Its hard to believe an organization even one who makes money like Vancouver would just sign off on 29M just like that.

I don't see how Vancouver can be trading him FOR assets when he himself came out and said his contract sucks. No GM is going to use that against Vancouver? ...doubtful.

What happens when a team wants to trade for him, but waits until after July 1st or whenever UFA starts. Doesn't Vancouver have to make moves before hand.

Things could get tricky, very fast.

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I just listed all possible(even if unlikely) scenarios.

Its hard to believe an organization even one who makes money like Vancouver would just sign off on 29M just like that.

I don't see how Vancouver can be traded FOR assets when he himself came out and said his contract sucks. No GM is going to use that against Vancouver? ...doubtful.
I don't see how Luongo admitting something everyone and their dog already knew changes anything. Before Luongo said it GM's would have said "His contract sucks" and now they can say "His contract sucks, AND he knows it".

So if Luongo can't be traded for anything, why would Gillis give him away AND another asset, when he can buy him out and keep the asset?

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I don't see how Luongo admitting something everyone and their dog already knew changes anything. Before Luongo said it GM's would have said "His contract sucks" and now they can say "His contract sucks, AND he knows it".

So if Luongo can't be traded for anything, why would Gillis give him away AND another asset, when he can buy him out and keep the asset?
Well Gillis/Canucks have to ask themselves: Is keeping that asset worth 29M?

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I don't see how Luongo admitting something everyone and their dog already knew changes anything. Before Luongo said it GM's would have said "His contract sucks" and now they can say "His contract sucks, AND he knows it".

So if Luongo can't be traded for anything, why would Gillis give him away AND another asset, when he can buy him out and keep the asset?
Imagine going to your boss and telling him there are 2 options on the table:
1. Give up your company's entire year of profits.
2. Keep the profits, but scrap a project in R&D that you haven't started yet that could make money in the future.

Not saying one option is better than the other, but they are certainly both viable options and should be included in the poll.

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I think there are only two courses of actions that make sense for the Canucks:

1) Trade Luongo for decent assets
2) Trade Schneider for a great asset

Anything else would just make us a worse team.

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Imagine going to your boss and telling him there are 2 options on the table:
1. Give up your company's entire year of profits.
2. Keep the profits, but scrap a project in R&D that you haven't started yet that could make money in the future.

Not saying one option is better than the other, but they are certainly both viable options and should be included in the poll.
Exactly.

IMO, Canucks would rather keep 29M and trade away a 1st rounder if they had to.

I think buying Luongo out for 29M(which people are voting for), and obviously keeping them both are two of the most unlikely scenarios.

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Well Gillis/Canucks have to ask themselves: Is keeping that asset worth 29M?
The Aquilini's are worth like $5 billion. I don't think $29 million would hurt too much if it could help their hockey team.

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Exactly. Canucks would rather keep 29M and trade away a 1st rounder if they had to.

I think buying Luongo out for 29M(which people are voting for), and obviously keeping them both are two of the most unlikely scenarios.
That is absurd.

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That is absurd.
So if you are the Nucks owner, you would rather give up $29,000,000 and keep a prospect that could end up being Patrick White.

I don't care how much an owner is worth. $29,000,000 is $29,000,000.

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Well, unlike the likes of Komisarek, Redden, Huet and Gomez, the issue with Luongo's contract is length, not cap hit. So he'll probably go to a team in exchange for assets as long as the Canucks eat some salary.

Truly original thread by the way.

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So if you are the Nucks owner, you would rather give up $29,000,000 and keep a prospect that could end up being Patrick White.

I don't care how much an owner is worth. $29,000,000 is $29,000,000.
If I was Aquilini, absolutely.

But the part I found absurd was that you felt you could speak on behalf of the Canucks organization and owners, when clearly you don't have enough knowledge on the subject.

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You also didn't list all the possibilities. No offense, but having a '$29m buyout' option and not having an option for him being picked up on waivers is a sign of ignorance on the part of the OP.

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If I was Aquilini, absolutely.

But the part I found absurd was that you felt you could speak on behalf of the Canucks organization and owners, when clearly you don't have enough knowledge on the subject.
You're heavily downplaying the amount of money required to buy out Luongo. I don't think Aquilini throws away assets over buying out Luongo, but it's definitely something he will think about.



I think he'll get traded for assets, but they will be quite small.

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Schneider isn't leaving Vancouver and it is pretty clear he is #1. Lou bought out I don't think so what if Edmonton is like oh hey its Lou lets sign him that's it they get burned for it.

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I honestly don't know what's going to happen. At this point it looks like a compliance buyout is the only option, yet it's been said that Canucks ownership absolutely will not allow that.

I think Gillis will just pester teams like the Lightning and Devils a little more in the summer. If that fails, who on Earth even knows? Despite how against it most Canucks fans are, entertaining offers for Schneider would be the next course action.

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Im thinking Schneinder is traded.
your thinking flawed.

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The Aquilini's are worth like $5 billion. I don't think $29 million would hurt too much if it could help their hockey team.
Make no mistake, the Canucks are ultimately ran like a business. The team has taken in deals like Booth because they didn't cost them too much, but there's no way they will let $29M go down the drain like that... unless they plan to not spend to the cap.

Luongo is still worth something regardless, and can bring a decent return if the Canucks take back salary. Not sure how's that going to work with Ballard and Booth also around, though.

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For assets but not much.

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Option 3. I think Luongo is traded for assets at the draft.

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