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06-29-2011, 08:19 AM
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Where would Filatov rank in this years draft?

Simple question

We got him for a 3rd rounder, he was drafted in 08, 6th overall

Where would he have ranked in this years draft?

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06-29-2011, 08:45 AM
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Based on potential? Quite high I'd say. He'd be one of the few players with star potential. However, maybe with his problems, late 1st?

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I view Filatov, today, as most viewed Kabanov last year. Supreme talent, but attitude questions. 3rd round.

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I think he means if it was before Filatov was drafted and any of the Columbus stuff happened.

So based on pure talent and potential.

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If you mean the Filatov who had just turned 18 when drafted and no GM knowing what would transpire in his development over the next two years, then probably in the range of where Tarasenko and Kuznetsov went last year. In that 2nd tier in the 15-25 range probably. Of course, the "Russian" factor is a bit higher now a days, so he might have dropped right out of the 1st round. He was higher regarded than Kucherov was this year in terms of overall potential, so perhaps early 2nd round. Probably in the 1st though if his agent gave clear indications to come over to NA, as Filatov's did at the time.

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3rd round...duh.

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I view Filatov, today, as most viewed Kabanov last year. Supreme talent, but attitude questions. 3rd round.
From what ive heard Filatov hasn´t attitude problems. I mean he has done everything to take part at the development camp while being at holidays with his family. That shows me that he does everything to be a NHL player next season. He made some mistakes in Columbus but he wasn´t well treated in Columbus too. Even Howson himself said that he made some mistakes.

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06-29-2011, 11:06 AM
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if we take 18yr old him and put him in with this competition, I'd say easily top 5 and he might even make it higher than that. I think he'd be more highly touted than Huberdeau, but his inclusion in the draft process would shift the draft order so I'm not necessarily saying he'd go 2nd.

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1 Stamkos, Steven C 2/7/1990 R 5.11.7 176 Sarnia OHL
2 Bogosian, Zach RD 7/15/1990 R 6.02 197 Peterborough OHL
3 Filatov, Nikita LW 5/25/1990 R 6.00 172 Moscow CSKA-2 RusDi
4 Doughty, Drew RD 12/8/1989 R 6.00.5 219 Guelph OHL
5 Pietrangelo, Alex RD 1/18/1990 R 6.03.2 206 Niagara OHL
6 Schenn, Luke RD 11/2/1989 R 6.02.2 216 Kelowna WHL
7 Boedker, Mikkel LW 12/16/1989 L 5.11.2 195 Kitchener OHL
8 Wilson, Colin (Fr.) C 10/20/1989 L 6.01 215 Boston Univ H.E.
9 Hodgson, Cody C 2/18/1990 R 5.11.5 185 Brampton OHL
10 Bailey, Joshua C 10/2/1989 L 6.00.5 188 Windsor OHL
11 Sbisa, Luca LD 1/30/1990 L 6.01.7 190 Lethbridge WHL
12 Boychuk, Zac C 10/4/1989 L 5.09.5 175 Lethbridge WHL
13 Beach, Kyle C 1/13/1990 R 6.03 203 Everett WHL
14 Tedenby, Mattias LW 2/21/1990 L 5.10 176 HV71 SweJE
15 Myers, Tyler RD 2/1/1990 R 6.07.2 204 Kelowna WHL
16 Colborne, Joe LW 1/30/1990 L 6.05 190 Camrose AJHL
17 Petrov, Kirill LW 4/13/1990 L 6.03 198 Kazan RusDi
18 Teubert, Colten RD 3/8/1990 R 6.03.5 185 Regina WHL
19 Robak, Colby LD 4/24/1990 L 6.03 194 Brandon WHL
20 Dalpe, Zac C 11/1/1989 R 6.00.5 170 Penticton BCHL
21 Carlson, John RD 1/10/1990 R 6.02.2 212 Indiana USHL
22 Karlsson, Erik RD 5/31/1990 R 5.11 165 V. Frolunda SweJE
23 Del Zotto, Michael LD 6/24/1990 L 5.11.7 211 Oshawa OHL
24 Grachev, Evgeny C 2/21/1990 R 6.03 202 Yaroslavl RusDi
25 Deschamps, Nicolas C 1/6/1990 L 6.00.2 173 Chicoutimi QMJHL
26 Trivino, Corey C 1/12/1990 L 6.01 170 Stouffville OPJHL
27 Toews, David LW 6/7/1990 R 5.10 175 Shattuck-St. MN-HS
28 Nemisz, Greg C 6/5/1990 R 6.03 197 Windsor OHL
29 Ness, Aaron LD 5/18/1990 L 5.09.5 157 Roseau MN-HS
30 Eberle, Jordan C 5/15/1990 R 5.10 174 Regina WHL

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I think being drafted 6th overall proves that he didn't have a major attitude problem prior to being drafted, else he'd of fallen like Kabanov did.

Minor attitude problems + being mishandled by team that drafted him = major attitude problems

Major attitude problems - being mishandled by the team that traded for him = minor attitude problems

Minor attitude problems are manageable.

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If this was 2008 but with this year's draft players + filatov,

1 RNH
2 Landeskog
3 Huberdeau
4 Larsson
5 Filatov
6 Strome

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I think he'd go somewhere around Kucherov, another supreme talent but a flight risk. So, late 2nd round to a team with some big cajones.

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No one in this draft has the potential Filatov has, besides maybe Larsson. He'd go top 5(Just cause of Russian factor)

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Top-3 on talent, top-10 based on the Russian factor, 1st round/early 2nd if he comes with the development stagnation he had in Columbus.

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Top-3 on talent, top-10 based on the Russian factor, 1st round/early 2nd if he comes with the development stagnation he had in Columbus.
Completely agree.

Filatov is really underrated on this board. He didn't have attitude problems until he was being mishandled in Columbus (which is why he went 6th while Kabanov went into the third), and so far he's done everything he can to show he's serious about making the Sens. If he was any other nationality he would've gone before 6th in 2008, and there's not doubt that he's top-3 in this draft.

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Completely agree.

Filatov is really underrated on this board. He didn't have attitude problems until he was being mishandled in Columbus (which is why he went 6th while Kabanov went into the third), and so far he's done everything he can to show he's serious about making the Sens. If he was any other nationality he would've gone before 6th in 2008, and there's not doubt that he's top-3 in this draft.
I already posted this in the Prospects thread. Here is his first interview as a Senator. He really seems like a nice guy. And he knows that this is his chance to establish himself as a NHL player. Good first impression.

http://video.senators.nhl.com/videocenter/console

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I already posted this in the Prospects thread. Here is his first interview as a Senator. He really seems like a nice guy. And he knows that this is his chance to establish himself as a NHL player. Good first impression.

http://video.senators.nhl.com/videocenter/console
Who are the idiots who keep asking him about columbus? The dude says he doesn't want to talk about columbus because it's in the past, then some dude in the back keeps yelling questions about columbus. Nikita seems annoyed. We have the dumbest reporters.

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I already posted this in the Prospects thread. Here is his first interview as a Senator. He really seems like a nice guy. And he knows that this is his chance to establish himself as a NHL player. Good first impression.

http://video.senators.nhl.com/videocenter/console
Highly impressive answers, particularly the ones regarding Columbus.

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If this was 2008 but with this year's draft players + filatov,

1 RNH
2 Landeskog
3 Huberdeau
4 Larsson
5 Filatov
6 Strome

Filatov was more highly though of as a dynamic individual talent than anybody in this years draft. Even back in 2008 there was still that Russian factor as the KHL was formed and there were talk that many of the Russian guys would be playing for more money back home. It was a reason he fell out of the top 5. Most mocks had him in the top 2-3 in 2008.

In 2011 draft, on talent and potential alone (if this was 2008) he would have gone 1. Filatov was a huge star youtube more than a year before the draft. He was being compared to miniature version of Kovalchuck with Datsyuk playmaking skills.

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Potentially picking Filatov before Doughty would be like picking Lee over Kopitar

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Potentially picking Filatov before Doughty would be like picking Lee over Kopitar
no its like picking Daigle over pronger

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no its like picking Daigle over pronger
So far, yes, that's a pretty solid comparison.

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Filatov was more highly though of as a dynamic individual talent than anybody in this years draft. Even back in 2008 there was still that Russian factor as the KHL was formed and there were talk that many of the Russian guys would be playing for more money back home. It was a reason he fell out of the top 5. Most mocks had him in the top 2-3 in 2008.

In 2011 draft, on talent and potential alone (if this was 2008) he would have gone 1. Filatov was a huge star youtube more than a year before the draft. He was being compared to miniature version of Kovalchuck with Datsyuk playmaking skills.
Exactly my thoughts. No way Filatov doesn't go top 3 in this years draft, and he only slides that low because of the Russian Factor. I would really see him going number 2 to Colorado in this draft, only because Edmonton needed a top flight center prospect with this pick. For comparison, if this were the 2008 draft Landeskog wouldn't even be mentioned in the same breath as Filatov, he would be a full tier or more below him in terms of potential

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