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03-28-2013, 01:51 PM
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Carey Price - How far can he take us?

Price is a good goalie. I guess my question is...how good is he? He's a guy that can play a lot of games, for sure. Is he the type that can win you a series? I think he has it in him, but has not shown it yet. What do you think?

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He got a shutout in game 7 vs. Boston during his first Play-off series ever..
Won the Jack Butterfield trophy (AHL Conn Smythe) when the Bulldogs won the Calder.
Won gold with Canada in the WJC's.

He's got winning pedigree in him.

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Price CAN be the best goalie in the NHL. He CAN take us to a Cup.

Better question is will he? Will he be able to be consistent in the playoffs and steal a game or two like a Cup winning goalie needs to do from time to time to get his team over the hump.

He's able to do it. He just has to show that he CAN.

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Hopefully his early push into the spotlight hasn't made him a shakey playoff goalie. This should be the deciding year, he hasn't looked great in the playoffs so far, needs to have a solid showing.

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Price is a good goalie. I guess my question is...how good is he? He's a guy that can play a lot of games, for sure. Is he the type that can win you a series? I think he has it in him, but has not shown it yet. What do you think?
I think he can win us a cup with a "good" team. Ideally we get a "great" team and win multiple cups.

That being said he still has room to grow and has to take it up a notch or two. He's a top 10-15 goalie but can be a top 5 or top 3.

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Alone? he can't take us anywhere, he's not Roy, he's not Brodeur, he's not Hasek, get over it.

with a team that plays well in front of him? he can take us further than the majority of the goalies in this league

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Alone? he can't take us anywhere, he's not Roy, he's not Brodeur, he's not Hasek, get over it.

with a team that plays well in front of him? he can take us further than the majority of the goalies in this league
Get over what exactly? There are countless goalies who are considered at Price's level or under who have stolen playoff games and series. As good as Price is, I don't know if he's the type of goalie who can do that. He looked pretty good a couple of years ago in the Bruins series for the most part.

As good as he is, he needs to do more. That .923 save percentage he had a few years back...is that the real price..or is it the .910-.915 the real Price? I'm not sure.

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Price doesn't have the "fire in the belly" approach. He will not take the Habs very far. Look at the past week. Habs greatly outshoot Sabres but lose. Habs outshhoot/outplay Pens but lose. Carey is pulled after Bruins pour 4 through him, and our backup stones them in the stootout. Price seldom stops 6 in a shootout.

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Get over what exactly? There are countless goalies who are considered at Price's level or under who have stolen playoff games and series. As good as Price is, I don't know if he's the type of goalie who can do that. He looked pretty good a couple of years ago in the Bruins series for the most part.

As good as he is, he needs to do more. That .923 save percentage he had a few years back...is that the real price..or is it the .910-.915 the real Price? I'm not sure.
didn't mean to offend you in any way my bad

what I meant was : i'm the biggest Price sellout around here, but the guy has its flaws. he's not a Roy or a Hasek, he's not gonna single-handedly win the stanley cup as these 2 did, but with any given team the odds of winning a cup with him are way better than without him compared to the majority (*majority*: not all of them, majority ranges from 50+1% to 100%) of goaltenders in the league

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Get over what exactly? There are countless goalies who are considered at Price's level or under who have stolen playoff games and series. As good as Price is, I don't know if he's the type of goalie who can do that. He looked pretty good a couple of years ago in the Bruins series for the most part.

As good as he is, he needs to do more. That .923 save percentage he had a few years back...is that the real price..or is it the .910-.915 the real Price? I'm not sure.
Its funny people mention Brodeur all the time of someone they want Price to be like.

People expect Price at .923 yet you have Brodeur with a career .913 save percentage and a .919 in the playoffs.

Price has a regular season career SP of .916 and yes a low .907 in the playoffs. Its skewed a little right now due to poor performances in his first few years.

Now Brodeur has had a great career, a winning career. Point is, numbers dont take you far. Heck i almost throw them out the window sometimes. Its more about timely goaltending then saying Price needs "x" save percentage.

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Price doesn't have the "fire in the belly" approach. He will not take the Habs very far. Look at the past week. Habs greatly outshoot Sabres but lose. Habs outshhoot/outplay Pens but lose. Carey is pulled after Bruins pour 4 through him, and our backup stones them in the stootout. Price seldom stops 6 in a shootout.
Is Price supposed to score in those games? Montreal scores 1 goal in those two games and its Price's fault.

Last night, Budaj had a great shootout i dont deny that. Price was yanked to wake Montreal up. They fell apart and left him out to dry in the second period, then Montreal essentially took over the third for the comeback.

fwi, most shootouts never go to six shots for a goalie...

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Its funny people mention Brodeur all the time of someone they want Price to be like.

People expect Price at .923 yet you have Brodeur with a career .913 save percentage and a .919 in the playoffs.

Price has a regular season career SP of .916 and yes a low .907 in the playoffs. Its skewed a little right now due to poor performances in his first few years.

Now Brodeur has had a great career, a winning career. Point is, numbers dont take you far. Heck i almost throw them out the window sometimes. Its more about timely goaltending then saying Price needs "x" save percentage.
Brodeur played in a different era. Comparing stats from different eras is just silly. Lastly, Brodeur STOLE games consistently. That was his career.

I only brought up his save percentage because he's consistently in the bottom half among goalies in that regard. .911 save percentage in this day and age is modest...it's not good, and we need Price to be good.

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He can win us a Cup for sure. No clue whether it'll be this year or in 10 years, but he definitely has it in him.

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We'll make it to the second round and he'll choke.

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Hopefully his early push into the spotlight hasn't made him a shakey playoff goalie. This should be the deciding year, he hasn't looked great in the playoffs so far, needs to have a solid showing.
I don't think this is the deciding year. 2-3 years from now yes.

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Oh sweet.. Probably another Deasharnais thread here.

Price is one piece of a cog. He'll take us as far as the other 22 players and coaching staff help take us.

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Alone? he can't take us anywhere, he's not Roy, he's not Brodeur, he's not Hasek, get over it.

with a team that plays well in front of him? he can take us further than the majority of the goalies in this league
Absolutely agree, he is a good goalie, but not a Roy, we have outshot numerous opponents almost 2-1 numerous times and yet Price wasn't able to get us the win.

It is the style of play we are playing that will get us far, once we get Prust and Bourque back, and hopefully play the aggressive forechecking game again, we will be in the opponents end more then they will be in ours hopefully and thats the best defence!!

Our defence is the key to our goaltenders success!

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In Price we trust.

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It depends on the play of his D and forwards in front of him.

If you allow Big Nose to be open in front of the net for an easy goal, then that is not Price's fault.

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Is Price supposed to score in those games? Montreal scores 1 goal in those two games and its Price's fault.

Last night, Budaj had a great shootout i dont deny that. Price was yanked to wake Montreal up. They fell apart and left him out to dry in the second period, then Montreal essentially took over the third for the comeback.

fwi, most shootouts never go to six shots for a goalie...
Mypoint, Price would have been scored upon well before the 6th shot, and the Habs would have lost. When your team is outplaying the other team, your goalie has to do likewise. Price is not showing anything.

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Stats don't really mean anything. For goalies. Team systems can really skew goalie stats either way. Wins do.

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Has anyone seen the piece from Martin Leclerc on his blog ?

http://blogues.radio-canada.ca/blogu...jose-theodore/

What do you guys think ?

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I wonder whether he's well coached. He's a good goalie positionally but way to prone to go down on his knees at the slightest shot attempt. I know the butterfly style is the way to go for most goalies today but sometime too much flopping gets him in trouble and he can't recover fast enough. I have faith he can take us a long way but I think he has regressed from his sophomore year.

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Folks who are comparing him to Brodeur or Roy will be disapointed, he's not at that level. But he's certainly good enough to win.

He rarely costs us games. Gives up the odd bad goal but he's very consistent and plays the percentages with his angles. He can definitely lead a good team to a cup.

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