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04-17-2013, 08:14 PM
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Taylor Hall to Ottawa

They were talking on the Quiz on TSN about the oilers potentially moving one of their big 4 offensive players. I was just curious how much he would cost to acquire? As well, who is would return a bigger package, Eberle or Hall? Both players would fit nicely in Ottawa's top 6.

I could see Ottawa offereing a top 6 forward, a young defensemen and some draft picks, something among the lines of:

Taylor Hall for Cory Conacher, Patrick Weircoich or Eric Gryba, 2013 1st round pick, 2014 2nd round pick

Conacher could help replace some of the offense lost, weircoich and gryba are both future top 4 defense, most likely by next season, and draft picks which the oilers could then trade for other players.

Other available players:
Milan Michalek, Zach Smith, Eric Condra, Colin Greening, Mark Stone,

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This will not end well....

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I can't see any scenario where Hall would be moved.

Eberle, perhaps, but even that's pretty unlikely.

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They were talking on the Quiz on TSN about the oilers potentially moving one of their big 4 offensive players. I was just curious how much he would cost to acquire? As well, who is would return a bigger package, Eberle or Hall? Both players would fit nicely in Ottawa's top 6.

I could see Ottawa offereing a top 6 forward, a young defensemen and some draft picks, something among the lines of:

Taylor Hall for Cory Conacher, Patrick Weircoich or Eric Gryba, 2013 1st round pick, 2014 2nd round pick

Conacher could help replace some of the offense lost, weircoich and gryba are both future top 4 defense, most likely by next season, and draft picks which the oilers could then trade for other players.

Other available players:
Milan Michalek, Zach Smith, Eric Condra, Colin Greening, Mark Stone,
Not nearly enough for Hall and we're not moving Eberle unless it fills a major need.

If you're set on Hall lets build a deal around Karlsson

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Not nearly enough for Hall and we're not moving Eberle unless it fills a major need.

If you're set on Hall lets build a deal around Karlsson
Karlsson wouldn't be moved for all 4

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I think Hall and RNH are very unlikely to be moved. Eberle and Yakupov are probably the two that Oilers might trade if the price is righticulous.

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This will not end well....
My vote for understatement of the decade

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Karlsson wouldn't be moved for all 4
And we value our Fab Five very highly, if you won't give up actual NHL players of great value then they won't be moved.

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Karlsson wouldn't be moved for all 4
There's one dman in history worth more than all four, he doesn't end in son

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Not nearly enough for Hall and we're not moving Eberle unless it fills a major need.

If you're set on Hall lets build a deal around Karlsson
Karlsson is better than Hall so that's not gonna happen but you're right the op's offer was horrible.

I highly doubt Hall gets traded he's your best player.

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Karlsson wouldn't be moved for all 4
Any player currently in the league would be moved for all 4

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What would it take to get eberle.? Spezza works better with snipers. Would ceci, 1st, greening and smith be enough or too much?

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A real answer that does not include Karlsson? Cowen, Stone, and Lehner.

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Karlsson wouldn't be moved for all 4
What a joke. Karlsson is my second favourite player in the league but you are overvaluing him so much its not even funny.

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What would the Oilers be looking for, if they were to trade Taylor Hall?

Make an offer, assuming Karlsson is untouchable.

Lehner?
Zibanejad?
Silfverberg?
Michalek?

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I'd imagine that any real offer would have to start with Cowan + Zibanejad / Silfverberg.

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What would the Oilers be looking for, if they were to trade Taylor Hall?

Make an offer, assuming Karlsson is untouchable.

Lehner?
Zibanejad?
Silfverberg?
Michalek?
Sounds good, based on the rationale that Karlsson can't be part of it.

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Yes, good work OP. Very realistic offer I'm sure the Oilers would accept.

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Karlsson wouldn't be moved for all 4
Karlsson for Gagner Petry and paajarvi!

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Any player currently in the league would be moved for all 4
Id take a top player in the league(ie. Crosby, Malkin, Karlsson, Stamkos) over the 4 players when salary is taken into account.

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Hall isn't going anywhere, and if you want Eberle it'll cost Lehner, Cowen or Zibanejad++

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Id take a top player in the league(ie. Crosby, Malkin, Karlsson, Stamkos) over the 4 players when salary is taken into account.
Because trading for them would mean you couldn't rid your team of three unneeded players right? No GM in the league would pass up all four for one player. Not a single one.

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If one is moved it will most likely be Yakupov. If it was Hall, and it was Ottawa, it would start with Zibanejad. The big power center they need. Toss in Silfverberg and Gryba to make it even.

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Regardless of trade value, we value Hall the same way the Sens value Karlsson, both of which are the teams best players.

I fully expect Hall to be the captain within 2 years or less, so he's pretty much as untouchable as it gets on the Oilers.

We need goaltending, defense, and some grit, so guys like Lehner and Cowen would be guys Edmonton would target, hypothetically of course.

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Don't think they're getting Hall without giving up Karlsson which wouldn't happen.

Besides Karlsson they'd probably have to offer Cowen Lehner Zibanejad+

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