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04-23-2013, 04:14 PM
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Oilers - Leafs

To Toronto:

Jordan Eberle
Ladislav Smid



To Oilers:

Jake Gardiner
Joe Colborne
Mikhail Grabovski
TOR 1st Round Pick 2014


**Oilers get a young upcoming offensive defencemen also reunite with his buddy Schultz

** Leafs add a top 6 forward and a defensive defencemen.
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That's pretty terrible for the Oilers. You didn't even give them a 1st.

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That's pretty terrible for the Oilers. You didn't even give them a 1st.
okay okay ill give them a 1st in 2014

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I probably wouldn't trade Eberle for that whole package.

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I'll do Nick Schultz instead of Laddy.

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Why do people even make hypothetical proposals on this forum? Most of the time they just lead to flaming. So pointless.

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Really really bad for Edmonton.

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Not enough for Eberle alone.

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Wow that is just awful for EDM.

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To Toronto:

Jordan Eberle
Ladislav Smid



To Oilers:

Jake Gardiner
Joe Colborne
TOR 1st Round Pick 2014


**Oilers get a young upcoming offensive defencemen also reunite with his buddy Schultz

** Leafs add a top 6 forward and a defensive defencemen.
I would not trade Smid for this package .
1st 2014 is like a grab bag who knows what you will get . Most of the time it is not worth the money or asset

Colborne is getting close to being a bust

Gardiner was very good last year and has taken a step back this year ,plus once concussed very easy to add a second one . Trust me i know . Once i had my first the second one was much easier to get , the third even easier then i started taking seizures . His value is low right now . hang onto him and hope he is as good as TO fans think he is

From Edmonton point Smid has been our best D for a few years and wants to be in Edmonton , He just signed a deal at a good cap hit to stay in Edmonton . Why are we going to trade him
Eberle is a first liner the only way we trade him is for an upgrade at 2 C , or a top 6 winger with grit and scoring ability
Edmonton is a worst team after this trade . Mac T wants to get better now , We are giving up the 2 best players in this deal , Gardiner could become the second best or even the best player , but why chance it ?

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Counter-proposal:

JVR
Kadri

for:

Teubert
Rajala
Eager
EDM 2014 1st

Deal?

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What a brutal deal for Edmonton....

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I understand not wanting to do the trade, and I think smid is a pretty solid D, but if 2 of the 3 pieces were offered for just smid that be an overpayment for smid.

No need for that level of hyperbole.

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04-23-2013, 04:42 PM
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Is this serious? Just awful.

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Counter-proposal:

JVR
Kadri

for:

Teubert
Rajala
Eager
EDM 2014 1st

Deal?
Better then the OP . I am sure some will jump on you not getting the point you are making .

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Counter-proposal:

JVR
Kadri

for:

Teubert
Rajala
Eager
EDM 2014 1st

Deal?
We aren't letting go of Kadri for anyone on EDM, period.
2013 1st + Gardiner for Eberle sounds like a decent trade though.

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I understand not wanting to do the trade, and I think smid is a pretty solid D, but if 2 of the 3 pieces were offered for just smid that be an overpayment for smid.

No need for that level of hyperbole.
Great and that is why you could never be a GM . As you said Smid is a solid D . Colborne . What is he other then a Project ? The pick in 2014 likely will never be as good as Smid . How are those 2 pieces overpayment for Smid , who signed a great deal to stay in Edmonton ?

Gardiner could be better ,but this year he hasn't been . So he is still a question mark .

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We aren't letting go of Kadri for anyone on EDM, period.
2013 1st + Gardiner for Eberle sounds like a decent trade though.
I don't really see the point for the Leafs. Eberle is awesome, but the Leafs are deep on the wings and it's not like they have trouble scoring. It's just spending assets on something that doesn't need to be fixed.

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We aren't letting go of Kadri for anyone on EDM, period.
2013 1st + Gardiner for Eberle sounds like a decent trade though.
I bet it does. Do you happen to be a leafs fan by any chance?

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We aren't letting go of Kadri for anyone on EDM, period.
2013 1st + Gardiner for Eberle sounds like a decent trade though.
For whom ? TO yes . Edmonton no . We are better off draft Nurse we need a big tough D .

Kadri value is not close to Hall,s . If Hall was offer for him your GM would jump at it or be fired

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We aren't letting go of Kadri for anyone on EDM, period.
2013 1st + Gardiner for Eberle sounds like a decent trade though.

no it doesnt sound like a decent trade.

Even if this draft year is deep Torontos pick will be low, and gardiner isnt near Eberles value..

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04-23-2013, 05:01 PM
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Adding Grabovski... that'll do it.

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Better then the OP . I am sure some will jump on you not getting the point you are making .
No, it is not better than the OP, and no one can rationally think so.

I get the point he is trying to make. But the point is waaay overblown. That's the issue. Look, I am an EDM fan, but Teubert is nowhere near Gardiner, and Grabo is better than any person on the "counter-offer" list from EDM. If you are going to try and show how bad a proposal is, you need to use analogous players. Otherwise you are just conflating the argument for the sake of trolling.

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Not fair value for edmonton but i pass on it too. Toronto doesnt need Eberle and definitely dont need to take the gamble that he rebounds next year.

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