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04-18-2013, 04:25 PM
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You can't get a bag of pucks for 3 million a year on a short term in free agency
You're probably right about that but technically Bozak is not a free agent, he's still Maple Leafs property and a 3 year deal worth $3mill annually to keep him around is more than fair. If he makes it to free agency then its clear he wants to cash in and if that happens to be the case then I sure hope he cashes in anywhere but Toronto.

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What also gets to me is all this 2nd and 3rd line talk. We haven't seen Bozak play anywhere but the 1st line, riding the coattails of his elite wingers. What makes everyone so sure he could perform well with lesser linemates on the 2nd line? Personally, I don't think he can. He can play the 3rd line because he wouldn't be counted on to accumulate points from that position but I'm not sold on him being an effective defensive center either.

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04-18-2013, 05:42 PM
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If you wanna pay more than 3 - 3.5 million for him you're making a mistake.

He kills momentum in the offensive zone and is a product of Kessel. His defence is good, and he'd be a perfect 4th line C on a contending team at 2.5 million but the market will give him more. I just hope it's not the Leafs.

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04-18-2013, 06:24 PM
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$4.75m/yr for seven years is fair for both parties IMO.

If Nazem Kadri is eventually able to slot onto the top line and take over Bozak's duties, $4.75m/yr for Bozak to play on the second or third line really isn't all that bad.
I cant see the Leafs going 7 years on a guy like Bozak. You cant be giving 7 year contracts to guys that arent foundations on your team. The contracts will catch up to you way to fast.

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Maybe Dreger is trying to scare off any potential suitors so the Leafs can lock him up at a reasonable price

well, one can hope

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You seem to be bringing up a lot of bits of data as to why Bozak isn't worth $5m... but none actually relative to what gives players worth.

Player's get their worth from being the best available option to a team at that price. Until you suggest an alternative that is better than the Leafs paying Bozak $5m, he's worth $5m. Keeping Grabovski at $5.5m is certainly not a better alternative.

BTW, he plays #1 minutes because he's Toronto's #1 centre. He's Toronto's #1 centre because he's the best guy to have on our top line, and our best faceoff guy.
Dude you better get off what ever you are on... Or give me some of that to get to your level.

Bozak is worth 3m, I would not give him a penny over 3.5m/year, if he asked for 3500001, I would tell him to go **** himself.

Watch a couple games sober then tell me the reason for him missing 1/2 the empty netters that Kessel is giving him...

I would play him on 3C with the defensive unit...
Play kadri (the ONLY playmaking centre we have) between the 2 of 3 best wingers we have( kessel, jvr, Lupes[love the guy]).

Everyone is hating on grabo this season because of his poor numbers? He plays a defensive roll with the leafs! Shhhhhuuuttt doooowwwnnn role. He doesing get much opportunity on offense...
Remember two years ago when him Mac and kulie ( also would never trade) were our first line? He makes players around him better!

GET OFF GRABO's BACK, and STOP MAKING BOZAK THE NEXT COMING OF TOEWS.

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Holy crap there is no way Tyler freaking Bozak is worth 5 millions. What the hell did we just have a lockout for?!

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If he makes anything above 3.5mil in Toronto then Nonis would have just ****ed the Org big time


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Dude you better get off what ever you are on... Or give me some of that to get to your level.

Bozak is worth 3m, I would not give him a penny over 3.5m/year, if he asked for 3500001, I would tell him to go **** himself.

Watch a couple games sober then tell me the reason for him missing 1/2 the empty netters that Kessel is giving him...

I would play him on 3C with the defensive unit...
Play kadri (the ONLY playmaking centre we have) between the 2 of 3 best wingers we have( kessel, jvr, Lupes[love the guy]).

Everyone is hating on grabo this season because of his poor numbers? He plays a defensive roll with the leafs! Shhhhhuuuttt doooowwwnnn role. He doesing get much opportunity on offense...
Remember two years ago when him Mac and kulie ( also would never trade) were our first line? He makes players around him better!
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GET OFF GRABO's BACK, and STOP MAKING BOZAK THE NEXT COMING OF TOEWS.

but the thing is he's not playing a defensive role...

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but the thing is he's not playing a defensive role...
As far as centers on the Leafs go he's facing the toughest competition. McClement is 2nd

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04-19-2013, 03:40 AM
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You're probably right about that but technically Bozak is not a free agent, he's still Maple Leafs property and a 3 year deal worth $3mill annually to keep him around is more than fair. If he makes it to free agency then its clear he wants to cash in and if that happens to be the case then I sure hope he cashes in anywhere but Toronto.
That makes very little sense.. if one waits for the UFA year to do a deal, one is going to have to offer an UFA contract

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04-19-2013, 09:18 AM
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Roy or Ribeiro would be better fits at that price. At least they have proven to be able to hit 60+ points multiple times in their careers.

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04-19-2013, 09:23 AM
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Considering the Leafs depth at C, I think the Leafs are better off keeping Bozak even though it will mean overpaying him. They might have a decision to make on Grabo though...

I think Bozak will get 4.5-5 per season from the Leafs, a good million more than he's worth, but that's what it will cost to keep him imho.

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04-19-2013, 09:24 AM
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Lol, terrible. Anyone who pays that will regret it.

Good for Bozak, but let's get real - without his chemistry with Kessel he's a 3rd liner

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Holy crap there is no way Tyler freaking Bozak is worth 5 millions. What the hell did we just have a lockout for?!
He's not worth it, but he'll get it imho.

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Roy or Ribeiro would be better fits at that price. At least they have proven to be able to hit 60+ points multiple times in their careers.
Bozak is a better two-way player than those to you mentioned. Plus, Bozak plays a more physically aggressive game. The Leafs would be making a mistake allowing him to 'walk'. He is their #1 center, and that means they need to pay 5+ to keep him.

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That's what Bergeron makes, and a quarter million less than what Krejci makes.

...Ok. Calm down there, Bozak. He'd get it in Free Agency, though. No question, and he knows it.

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He's not worth it, but he'll get it imho.
Just like the Tampa fans that were happy to add Matt Carle last year for 5.5 mill. Now, they want to buy him out. If I am TO, I focus on Kadri as next years #1 and Grabs as #2. Plug McClement into #3 or look for a 2 million dollar 3rd line C.

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Bozak is going to pull a Dom Moore in Toronto. he forms some chemistry with his linemates they asks for way too much, only to hit UFA and not get even close to what he's asking for, then sign with a team and dissappear for a few years.

Moore eventually found a good fit in TB, but as a 3rd line C.

Bozak is worth no more than 3.5mil (and that's pushing it). If he asks for more we target Riberio or someone else this summer.

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Wow! I was thinking Roy would command 5-5.5. But Bozak?

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Just like the Tampa fans that were happy to add Matt Carle last year for 5.5 mill. Now, they want to buy him out. If I am TO, I focus on Kadri as next years #1 and Grabs as #2. Plug McClement into #3 or look for a 2 million dollar 3rd line C.
Or sign Bozak and lose Grabo, since Bozak plays a bigger role on this team and is more in sync with Carlyle...not sure I want 10-11 million a season tied up in these two...

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What also gets to me is all this 2nd and 3rd line talk. We haven't seen Bozak play anywhere but the 1st line, riding the coattails of his elite wingers. What makes everyone so sure he could perform well with lesser linemates on the 2nd line? Personally, I don't think he can. He can play the 3rd line because he wouldn't be counted on to accumulate points from that position but I'm not sold on him being an effective defensive center either.
This is a very accurate assessment of Bozak by someone who probably has seen or watched very little of his actual play.

The points he puts up are not because he is riding the coattails of elite wingers. Kessel isn't bouncing pucks in off his forehead. Bozak is with them and an active part of the plays every game. He isn't riding anything. He is no Sidney Crosby, but he isn't dragging the players around him down either.

The fact you question his ability to even be a 3rd line defneisve center shows just how utterly ridiculous you are. Bozak is one of the best faceoff men in the entire league that plays sound defence on a line with two wingers who haven't seen their own end of the ice in years, but he might not be an effective 3rd line guy?

Ok, thanks for all of your wonderful insight

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That's what Bergeron makes, and a quarter million less than what Krejci makes.

...Ok. Calm down there, Bozak. He'd get it in Free Agency, though. No question, and he knows it.

Then he'll get it from the Leafs, just like Grabo did...

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Bozak has zero ground to demand $5 million. Calling it now, he re-signs for under $4 million.

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