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04-18-2013, 09:45 PM
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If Chicago decides they need a goaltending change:

To Chicago:
G- Ryan Miller

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D- Niklas Hjalmarsson

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04-18-2013, 09:46 PM
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This has been discussed too much. Chicago fans don't seem to have much interest, and why would they?

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Miller makes too much money. Well take him if you take emery, montador, and Olesz

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04-18-2013, 10:30 PM
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If he is traded, it will be to a team that fell out of the playoffs due to bad goaltending. In that case, he gets more value than this.

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04-18-2013, 10:53 PM
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Miller makes too much money. Well take him if you take emery, montador, and Olesz
If Chicago goes out in the first round due to goaltending they will be calling....


Buffalo is willing to eat some of Millers salary.

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04-18-2013, 11:08 PM
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Miller makes too much money. Well take him if you take emery, montador, and Olesz
This is just insulting. We are building for the future. We want prospects/picks. Chicago's got them, but honestly, this one offer ruined it for all other Hawks fans' offers for me.

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04-18-2013, 11:27 PM
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Miller makes too much money. Well take him if you take emery, montador, and Olesz
Yeah Miller is just a cap dump and we would gladly take your overpaid garbage Get real, Millers return will be higher then Pominvilles if he is dealt. Book it, he returns a 1st+top prospect+roster player at the minimum. PS 6.25 isn't that much for a top 10 goalie and the Sabres can also pay some of Millers salary.


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04-18-2013, 11:28 PM
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This is just insulting. We are building for the future. We want prospects/picks. Chicago's got them, but honestly, this one offer ruined it for all other Hawks fans' offers for me.
Good we don't want ur poverty 7th rounders for Scott and so on

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04-19-2013, 12:18 AM
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There's no reason for Chicago to even come to the trading table for Ryan Miller right now. Especially if Buffalo is looking to swap him for Hjalmarsson.

Both of our goalies are playing better than Miller is. Both of them combined makes less than he does. And Hjalmarsson has been arguably our best defenseman for the entire season.

Something might change between now and the offseason, but right now there's no point in even discussing this.

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04-19-2013, 12:48 AM
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who replaces Hjalmarsson for the Hawks? Bowman wants to add a Top4 D, not trade one away

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There's no reason for Chicago to even come to the trading table for Ryan Miller right now. Especially if Buffalo is looking to swap him for Hjalmarsson.

Both of our goalies are playing better than Miller is. Both of them combined makes less than he does. And Hjalmarsson has been arguably our best defenseman for the entire season.

Something might change between now and the offseason, but right now there's no point in even discussing this.
Behind your defense a crash test dummy works just fine. Doesnt say much about your goaltending play.

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04-19-2013, 01:08 AM
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Behind your defense a crash test dummy works just fine. Doesnt say much about your goaltending play.
It's a great problem to have too

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04-19-2013, 03:36 AM
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There's no reason for Chicago to even come to the trading table for Ryan Miller right now. Especially if Buffalo is looking to swap him for Hjalmarsson.

Both of our goalies are playing better than Miller is. Both of them combined makes less than he does. And Hjalmarsson has been arguably our best defenseman for the entire season.

Something might change between now and the offseason, but right now there's no point in even discussing this.
Both of your goalies are putting up numbers significantly higher than their career stats. I mean Ray Emery, who has a career save% of .907 has a .923 save% this year. Do you really think your goalies are playing so much better than Miller, or do you think the teams they're playing behind has a little something to do with it?

That being said, I don't see Miller going to Chicago unless goaltending is a big reason Chicago loses in the playoffs.

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04-19-2013, 07:37 AM
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Both of your goalies are putting up numbers significantly higher than their career stats. I mean Ray Emery, who has a career save% of .907 has a .923 save% this year. Do you really think your goalies are playing so much better than Miller, or do you think the teams they're playing behind has a little something to do with it?

That being said, I don't see Miller going to Chicago unless goaltending is a big reason Chicago loses in the playoffs.
Does it really matter as long as the puck is staying out of the net?

There's no reason for Chicago to even consider a goaltending change right now.

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04-19-2013, 08:18 AM
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Without reading a single other post in this thread....

Have you looked at Crawford and Emery's stats this season? Have you looked at Miller's? Where in the WORLD is the need for ANY goaltender right now, especially at the expense of Hjalmarsson?

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04-19-2013, 08:21 AM
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Behind your defense a crash test dummy works just fine. Doesnt say much about your goaltending play.
Have you watched a single Hawks game this year? We've gotten fantastic play from both netminders. They still have to stop the shots, and both have made many quality saves all season long. The attempt to marginalize the goaltending because we have a decent defense is the same kind of nonsense that Martin Brodeur faced the majority of his career while Stevens and Niedermayer were in front of him. I'm not saying either goaltender is playing on the level Brodeur did during the peak of his career...but our goaltending is not being carried by or d-core this year.

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04-19-2013, 08:27 AM
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Yeah Miller is just a cap dump and we would gladly take your overpaid garbage Get real, Millers return will be higher then Pominvilles if he is dealt. Book it, he returns a 1st+top prospect+roster player at the minimum. PS 6.25 isn't that much for a top 10 goalie and the Sabres can also pay some of Millers salary.
Were you a VAN fan in a past life? Holy overrating the goalie market, Batman!

Plus, Miller being a top 10 guy is very debatable.

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04-19-2013, 08:34 AM
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Yeah Miller is just a cap dump and we would gladly take your overpaid garbage Get real, Millers return will be higher then Pominvilles if he is dealt. Book it, he returns a 1st+top prospect+roster player at the minimum. PS 6.25 isn't that much for a top 10 goalie and the Sabres can also pay some of Millers salary.
wrong, wrong, wrong

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04-19-2013, 09:37 AM
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There's no reason for Chicago to even come to the trading table for Ryan Miller right now. Especially if Buffalo is looking to swap him for Hjalmarsson.

Both of our goalies are playing better than Miller is. Both of them combined makes less than he does. And Hjalmarsson has been arguably our best defenseman for the entire season.

Something might change between now and the offseason, but right now there's no point in even discussing this.
If Hjarlmarsson has been your best, just package Keith and Seabrook for Miller then wouldn't mind those scraps

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04-19-2013, 09:56 AM
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I'd rather just sign a free agent unless Buffalo is willing to accept a 1st rounder as a final offer.

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04-19-2013, 10:44 AM
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Hawks can't add on that much salary... it just won't work with the Cap.

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If Chicago decides they need a goaltending change:

To Chicago:
G- Ryan Miller

To Buffalo:
D- Niklas Hjalmarsson
Why would Chicago be interested in an ageing Goaltender like Miller who is on the wrong side of 30 and besides both Crawford and Emery are playing lights out in Chicago this year dont see the Hawks changing that now.

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04-19-2013, 12:20 PM
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The team around definitely effects your save percentage. Miller faces way more shots per game and a lot more quality chances. If Emery were on Buffalo his save percentage would be below .910.

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04-19-2013, 12:53 PM
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This is just insulting. We are building for the future. We want prospects/picks. Chicago's got them, but honestly, this one offer ruined it for all other Hawks fans' offers for me.
The Hawks can't take his cap hit. I thought we all knew this by now. If the Hawks get bounced due to bad goaltending, they probably will look for a new goalie. But it won't be Ryan Miller.

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The point sails past so many people's heads, it's ridiculous. Is Miller a better goaltender than Crawford or Emery? Yes. Without question.

But, in case you didn't notice, Chicago's "average" goaltending has been outstanding his year. Yes, the team defense and structure this season has a lot to do with it, as the lack of team defense and structure had to do with both Crawford and Emery having perceived "bad" seasons last year.. but at the end of the day, if Chicago can pay a goaltender 2.66M, and have that goaltender post a .920+ Sv%, then why in the hell would they want to invest 6M+ against the cap in a goaltender? Why? Because goaltending is perceived as a "weakness" in Chicago? Perhaps it is, but that doesn't mean Chicago's going to go crazy and take on a goaltender, with a huge contract, when they've proven they can excel with "average" goaltending when they play the right way.

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