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10-02-2003, 06:54 PM
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Are you sure it was THN? THN's Future Watch ranks the top 50 and also the ten honorable mentions, but I don't remember seeing a top 100 list from THN. McKeens had Anshakov rated as the 85th best prospect, our sixth highest prospect on the list. Perhaps you were thinking of them.

Great news about Anshakov.
You are right. Thanks for the clarification. He is 3 ahead of Kanko who is rated 88.

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That is my point, why would you give a guy coming off of an injury more ice time than your "Star" player? Unless Tikonov has more confidence in Anshakov than Zherdev.
Perhaps CSKA is angry that Zherdev signed a contract with Columbus .

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Perhaps CSKA is angry that Zherdev signed a contract with Columbus .
I was thinking that could be a good possibility.I was also thinking that maybe he is playing less-than-stellar hockey to get CSKA to release him and instead they just cut his ice time to teach him a lesson.

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Just out of curiosity, do any of you actually watch some of these Russian league games? or just getting info from stats on the internet?

I think some people read a bit too much into what they see in the boxscore. It's really hard to make much of a prediction about a hockey player having not seen him play but just seeing boxscores. I'm not saying they're meaningless, 5 goals in 5 games is impressive no matter what, but projecting how a player will be in the NHL and how he is better than someone else based just on boxscores..... I don't know I just don't think that's all that meaningful.

I don't mean to step on any toes here by the way, thats just my thoughts.

If any of you DO watch these games, I'd love to read your thoughts.

 
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Just out of curiosity, do any of you actually watch some of these Russian league games? or just getting info from stats on the internet?

I think some people read a bit too much into what they see in the boxscore. It's really hard to make much of a prediction about a hockey player having not seen him play but just seeing boxscores. I'm not saying they're meaningless, 5 goals in 5 games is impressive no matter what, but projecting how a player will be in the NHL and how he is better than someone else based just on boxscores..... I don't know I just don't think that's all that meaningful.

I don't mean to step on any toes here by the way, thats just my thoughts.

If any of you DO watch these games, I'd love to read your thoughts.
My information comes from box scores and Russian news articles.Currently I have no way to watch any of the games (wish I could) so I am basing all of my opinions on stats and Russian sports reporters.

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That is my point, why would you give a guy coming off of an injury more ice time than your "Star" player? Unless Tikonov has more confidence in Anshakov than Zherdev.
The russian super league is also regarded as the 2nd best hockey league after the NHL. From what i have read from other posts, rookies get a raw deal for disappearing and a showing a lack of commitment (i don't know zherdev situation so i'm just speaking generally here).

The NHL is the same with their rookies. Kinda like a certain russian rookie for the kings who was sat in favor of the offensive machine known as craig johnson.

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10-05-2003, 06:53 AM
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Anshakov had a goal today, giving him two goals and two assists in three games played.

Also looks like Pushkarev made his SuperLeague debut. Didn't have any points though. (just looking at the box scores; have to wait for Spongebob for a more detailed look at the games)

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Anshakov had a goal today, giving him two goals and two assists in three games played.

Also looks like Pushkarev made his SuperLeague debut. Didn't have any points though. (just looking at the box scores; have to wait for Spongebob for a more detailed look at the games)
October 5th,

It looks like Sam reported on some of todays highlights.Unfortunately
the game write-ups will not come out until later today so box scores will be the source of this update.

Sergei Anshakov did score his 2nd in CSKA's 5-3 victory over Severstal.Unfortunately for me so did Zherdev so they are still tied in points. Andrei Shefer was again no-where to be found for Severstal.

Konstantin Pushkarev did make his season debut for Avangard but as goes with rookies was probably given limited ice-time in this defensive battle.Lokomotive scored the only goal of the game halfway through the 3rd period.Lets hope he sticks with the team.

Mikael Lyubushin actually got to see some ice tonight in Dynamo's 1-1 tie with Metallurg-Novokuznetsk.Considering he is a defenseman I guess he did his job tonight.

Evgeni Federov scored the game winning goal in Ak Bars 2-1 win over Lada Toliatti.Way to go Federov.

I will update these players stats on page 1 of this thread.

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October 7

Today was just not a good day for Kings prospects in the RSL.

Today was Pushkarev's 2nd game for Avangard Omsk.Although he failed to show up on the scoresheet his team did score twice in the final 3 minutes to escape with a 3-3 tie with Torpedo.

Sergei Anshakov was also blanked on the scoresheet today in CSKA's 3-1 loss to SKA.

Andrei Shefer picked up another 2 minute penalty in his teams 3-0 win today over Amur.

Evgeni Federov also had a quiet night in his teams 4-2 loss to Salavat Yuliev.

Mikael Lyubushin was once again able to see some icetime in Dynamo's 4-0 win over Siberia.No points or penalties for Mikael.

Hey both of our defensemen prospects played on teams that had shutouts.There is something positive.

Next games are scheduled for the 10th.

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October 7

Karlsson and Mantyla were held scoreless tonight in their teams losses but Tim Eriksson had a big night in his teams 7-2 victory as stated in this write up courtesey of Eliteprospects.com

"The technically skilled Tim Eriksson was scoreless before tonight's game but when Linköping defeated Brynäs 7-2 he had a huge game registering three assists. Eriksson is drafted by the Los Angeles Kings but he is of smallish stature so a future for him in the NHL is uncertain".

Lets hope he is just getting started.

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Oct. 9

Jens Karlsson tallied another assist in Frolunda's 5-4 overtime loss.

Tim Eriksson scored for the first time this season for Linkoping while skating on the third line. He now has 1 goal and 3 assists in his last 2 games.

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October 10th

The Kings RSL prospects had a pretty good day today.

Konstantin Pushakarev scored his 1st career goal in the RSL in a 3-3 tie with Severstal today. Andrei Shefer was a non-factor in the game.

Evgeni Federov had a goal and an assist in Ak Bars 3 goal 1st period.They went on to win the game 5-1.

Anshakov and Lyubushin's tams don't play until tomorrow.I will report on their games then.

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So pUshkarov has been called up then right Spongebob...?

Also what kind of point totals in this league are realistic for Pushkarov...is it low scoring league...?

Like if he gets like 20 points in 50 games is that good in this league...?

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So pUshkarov has been called up then right Spongebob...?

Also what kind of point totals in this league are realistic for Pushkarov...is it low scoring league...?

Like if he gets like 20 points in 50 games is that good in this league...?
The point leaders in the RSL traditionally score at about a point a game pace. Former Kings prospect Tomas Vlasak lead the RSL last season with 44 points in 45 games.

However, 20 points in 50 games for a player of Pushkarev's age (18) in the RSL is remarkable. To put it in prospective, at the age of 18, Frolov had 39 points, Grigorenko had 15, and Chistov had 0 (in 9 games) playing in the RSL.

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thx spongbob...keep it up the good work.(thx for answering my pm too, i was antcy that day!).
Keep it coming Push!
U too Anshakov!

btw. to be fair to Push, when Frolov was 18, he did have 39pts but that was in RUL. He had 29pts in 39gms in the RSL the following year when he was 19. :p . If im wrong u can correct me!

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btw. to be fair to Push, when Frolov was 18, he did have 39pts but that was in RUL. He had 29pts in 39gms in the RSL the following year when he was 19. :p . If im wrong u can correct me!

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Russianprospects.com had him playing with Moscow in the RSL during the 2000-01 season.

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So pUshkarov has been called up then right Spongebob...?

Also what kind of point totals in this league are realistic for Pushkarov...is it low scoring league...?

Like if he gets like 20 points in 50 games is that good in this league...?
I think with Pushkarev it becomes an issue of "Does he make the most out of the time he is given"?If he is only playing 5 minutes a game but dominates the ice for those 5 minutes then he will earn more ice-time.

The fact that he scored a goal with his limited ice-time will make the coach consider increasing his playing time.In Pushkarev's favor right now is the fact that Avangard needs some offensive forwards.Tverdovski leads the team in goals with 5.If Pushkarev can prove that he can put the puck in the net I could see him on Avangards 1st line by seasons end.

Here is a quote from Avangard's head coach, Sergei Gersonski, in a post game press conference.

Reporter-"Evaluate the play of Pushkarev."

Gersonski-"You all could see perfectly, good movement,aims for goal, thirsts for conflict, self-efficient."

I assume the coach liked his performance this game.

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actually thats a mistake i believe. He was w/ the Soviet Wing is the Russia 2 league, and then thx the Frolov, they made it to the SUper league for the next year.

http://www.joyofhockey.com/LA1AlexanderFrolov.html

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Actually DFA.....Big Kov is right.In 00-01 the Soviet Wings were part of the High league.The next year the RSL expanded to 18 teams and the Soviet Wings were added to the RSL.This season the RSL went back to 16 teams and the Soviet Wings are now a High League team once again.

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I don't know if it's right or not. I'm just going by what it says.

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I don't know if it's right or not. I'm just going by what it says.
Hey don't worry about it too much.We won't hold it against you.

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Hey don't worry about it too much.We won't hold it against you.


i cant wait till some asks Push his game style and he replies w/: " I dont know. I just score goals."

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Evgeni Federov had a goal and an assist in Ak Bars 3 goal 1st period.They went on to win the game 5-1.

UPDATE:I read Sports Express today a found out that Evgeni Federov was named the 1st star of this game.

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October 11th

Sergei Anshakov was not on the score sheet in his teams 1-0 win today over Amur.

Mikael Lyubushin was again pretty quiet in Dynamo's 3-2 OT victory against Metallurg MG.(Ovechkin scored his 5th of the season though.)

Next games will be tomorrow.

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October 12

Evgeni Federov has turned into an offensive force.He scored 2 goals and added an assist in Ak Bars 7-1 victory over Torpedo.He has scored 3 goals and added 2 assists in the last 2 games.He is now tied for 16th in the league in total scoring and tied for 18th in the league in goals.Not too shabby.

Andrei Shefer was held off the scoresheet again Severstal's 4-2 victory over Himik.

Konstantin Pushkarev did not contribute on the scoresheet in Avangard's 4-4 tie with SKA.

P.S. Federov was second star in his game tonight.

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