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05-06-2013, 10:23 PM
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Move CHA in with the third group and this could work.
I agree. I was just thinking about balancing the conferences 15/15. But with the NHL having a 14/16 split, I see no reason why the AHL wouldn't do the same

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05-28-2013, 11:04 PM
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I think the AHL suits itself to a 4-conference type alignment, like the one the NHL originally planned to use in 2013-14. Perhaps something like this (assuming the Vancouver club ends up in Utica):

Western Conference - Abbotsford, Chicago, Iowa, Milwaukee, Oklahoma City, Rockford, San Antonio, Texas
Northern Conference - Adirondack, Albany, Hamilton, Rochester, Syracuse, Toronto, Utica
Eastern Conference - Binghamton, Charlotte, Grand Rapids, Hershey, Lake Erie, Norfolk, W-B/Scranton
Northeastern Conference - Bridgeport, Hartford, Manchester, Portland, Providence, Springfield, St. John's, Worcester

Then, when Adirondack moves to PA, just swap them with Binghamton. Certainly, it would make some sense geographically to have Lake Erie and Grand Rapids in the North, but I like the idea of having all the New York/Ontario teams in the same division.

As for the playoffs, it could either be the top four in each division, or some sort of wild-card system like the NHL plans to use next year. The 4 conference champions could be reseeded before the semifinals. So one year, the match-ups might be West vs. North and East vs. Northeast, and another year it might be West vs. East and North vs. Northeast.

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I feel like the best set up at this point would be a 3 conference system

Western Conference: Texas, San Antonio, Oklahoma City, Iowa, Milwaukee, Chicago, Rockford, Abbotsford, Vancouver/Peoria, Grand Rapids

Eastern Conference: Lake Erie, Toronto, Hamilton, Rochester, Syracuse, Binghamton, Adirondack/Lehigh Valley, Albany, Hershey, WBS

Atlantic Conference: St. John's, Portland, Manchester, Worcester, Providence, Springfield, Hartford, Bridgeport, Norfolk, Charlotte
I would make a few changes -
move Toronto and Hamilton to the Atlantic Conference &
move Norfolk and Charlotte to the Eastern conference.

That way the Canadian teams in the East would be in the same division and the Southern teams would not have to make longer trips to the north.

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05-29-2013, 10:24 AM
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I think the AHL suits itself to a 4-conference type alignment, like the one the NHL originally planned to use in 2013-14. Perhaps something like this (assuming the Vancouver club ends up in Utica):

Western Conference - Abbotsford, Chicago, Iowa, Milwaukee, Oklahoma City, Rockford, San Antonio, Texas
Northern Conference - Adirondack, Albany, Hamilton, Rochester, Syracuse, Toronto, Utica
Eastern Conference - Binghamton, Charlotte, Grand Rapids, Hershey, Lake Erie, Norfolk, W-B/Scranton
Northeastern Conference - Bridgeport, Hartford, Manchester, Portland, Providence, Springfield, St. John's, Worcester

Then, when Adirondack moves to PA, just swap them with Binghamton. Certainly, it would make some sense geographically to have Lake Erie and Grand Rapids in the North, but I like the idea of having all the New York/Ontario teams in the same division.

As for the playoffs, it could either be the top four in each division, or some sort of wild-card system like the NHL plans to use next year. The 4 conference champions could be reseeded before the semifinals. So one year, the match-ups might be West vs. North and East vs. Northeast, and another year it might be West vs. East and North vs. Northeast.
I wouldn't be averse to something like this.
As a Marlies fan I'm stick of Rochester and Hamilton making up over a quarter of of schedule whilst not getting to see other teams, like say Providence.
Regardless of the alignment I'd love a schedule change to go with it.

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05-29-2013, 03:58 PM
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I wouldn't be averse to something like this.
As a Marlies fan I'm stick of Rochester and Hamilton making up over a quarter of of schedule whilst not getting to see other teams, like say Providence.
Regardless of the alignment I'd love a schedule change to go with it.
Why? That's 10 wins.

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05-29-2013, 08:18 PM
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To not have Bingo in a division with all the other upstate NY teams would be a travesty.

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I like the four conference idea, as it would bring some variety to the matchup possibilities in the final two rounds of the playoffs.

I think the divisional/conference alignment is somewhat over-rated, considering that all the teams play a ridiculously-unbalanced schedule based on geography, regardless of what teams are in their division.

For example, if Bingo was in a grouping away from all of the NY teams, they'd still probably play the NY teams more than the teams in their own division.

IMO, that's the problem that needs to be fixed. As a Springfield fan, I'd love to see some teams other than Hartford and Providence every weekend, with the other New England teams thrown in for good measure. The Falcons and all of the IHL refugees have been in the league together for over 10 years, and I don't think Springfield has played a single one of them yet!

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05-30-2013, 09:37 PM
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I like the four conference idea, as it would bring some variety to the matchup possibilities in the final two rounds of the playoffs.

I think the divisional/conference alignment is somewhat over-rated, considering that all the teams play a ridiculously-unbalanced schedule based on geography, regardless of what teams are in their division.

For example, if Bingo was in a grouping away from all of the NY teams, they'd still probably play the NY teams more than the teams in their own division.

IMO, that's the problem that needs to be fixed. As a Springfield fan, I'd love to see some teams other than Hartford and Providence every weekend, with the other New England teams thrown in for good measure. The Falcons and all of the IHL refugees have been in the league together for over 10 years, and I don't think Springfield has played a single one of them yet!
Wouldn't surprise me, Rochester hasn't played Hartford since the 2000 Calder Cup Finals.

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06-14-2013, 10:55 AM
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What is your ideal 2014 Alignment of all 30 AHL Teams
NORTHEAST
Providence
Portland
Manchester
Worcester
St.John's
Springfield
Hartford
Bridgeport

EAST
Syracuse
Albany
Adirondack
Binghamton
W-B/Scranton
Utica
Hershey
Rochester

CENTRAL
Toronto
Lake Erie
Hamilton
Grand Rapids
Milwaukee
Charlotte
Norfolk

WEST
Rockford
Chicago
Texas
Oklahoma City
Iowa
San Antonio
Abbottsford

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06-14-2013, 11:13 AM
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To not have Bingo in a division with all the other upstate NY teams would be a travesty.
Why? Rochester isn't in the same conference, let alone division, as other NY teams.

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NORTHEAST
Providence
Portland
Manchester
Worcester
St.John's
Springfield
Hartford
Bridgeport

EAST
Syracuse
Albany
Adirondack
Binghamton
W-B/Scranton
Utica
Hershey
Rochester

CENTRAL
Toronto
Lake Erie
Hamilton
Grand Rapids
Milwaukee
Charlotte
Norfolk

WEST
Rockford
Chicago
Texas
Oklahoma City
Iowa
San Antonio
Abbottsford
I like it. You should work in the AHL office!

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06-14-2013, 01:03 PM
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2014 What! I said the 2013-14 Season

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06-14-2013, 01:45 PM
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NORTHEAST
Providence
Portland
Manchester
Worcester
St.John's
Springfield
Hartford
Bridgeport

EAST
Syracuse
Albany
Adirondack
Binghamton
W-B/Scranton
Utica
Hershey
Rochester

CENTRAL
Toronto
Lake Erie
Hamilton
Grand Rapids
Milwaukee
Charlotte
Norfolk

WEST
Rockford
Chicago
Texas
Oklahoma City
Iowa
San Antonio
Abbottsford
Milwaukee will not be separated from Chicago and rockford

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Milwaukee will not be separated from Chicago and rockford
This.

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Someone suggested re-forming the Empire Division, so I came up with this:




East: Bridgeport - Hartford - Hershey - Norfolk - Wilkes-Barre

Empire: Adirondack - Albany - Binghamton - Rochester - Syracuse - Utica

Atlantic: Manchester - Portland - Providence - Springfield - Worcester

North: Grand Rapids - Hamilton - Lake Erie - St. John's - Toronto

West: Abbotsford - Charlotte - Oklahoma City - San Antonio - Texas

Central: Chicago - Iowa - Milwaukee - Rockford


To make a true 6-team Empire Division, you'll need a 4-team division somewhere for one year. I made the Central the 4-teamer. If they want to keep the conferences at 15 & 15, they can move Norfolk to the west (and re-name it the South), and move Abbotsford to the Central.

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I'd think that the canadian team's will all be in the same division simply on the fact that to get the St.John's from some distances would run major costs and travel time. Just makes the most sense to have Toronto and such in our division

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This.
I agree with WK. The fans don't go back and forth much anymore between Chicago, Milwaukee and Rockford, but the fans and three teams still dislike each other!

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Just some minor tweaks to jcase's proposal. 15 teams in each "conference." Rochester moves away from the other NY teams to be with TOR and HAM. MIL re-joins CHI and RFD.

NORTHEAST
St.John's
Portland
Manchester
Worcester
Providence
Springfield
Hartford
Bridgeport

EAST
Albany
Adirondack
Utica
Syracuse
Binghamton
W-B/Scranton
Hershey

CENTRAL
Rochester
Hamilton
Toronto
Lake Erie
Grand Rapids
Charlotte
Norfolk

WEST
Milwaukee
Rockford
Chicago
Iowa
Texas
San Antonio
Oklahoma City
Abbottsford


Sad truth is, they could pull teams from a hat for divisions. The schedules rarely make sense with the divisional alignment -- teams are going to play their neighbors, whether or not they're in the same division--or conference.

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Providence
Portland
Manchester
Worcester
St. John's

Springfield
Connecticut
Bridgeport
Albany
Adirondack

Syracuse
Binghamton
Wilkes-Barre/Scranton
Hershey
Utica

Toronto
Rochester
Lake Erie
Abbotsford
Hamilton

Grand Rapids
Milwaukee
Rockford
Chicago
Iowa

Charlotte
Texas
Oklahoma City
San Antonio
Norfolk

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Providence
Portland
Manchester
Worcester
St. John's

Springfield
Connecticut
Bridgeport
Albany
Adirondack

Syracuse
Binghamton
Wilkes-Barre/Scranton
Hershey
Utica

Toronto
Rochester
Lake Erie
Abbotsford
Hamilton

Grand Rapids
Milwaukee
Rockford
Chicago
Iowa

Charlotte
Texas
Oklahoma City
San Antonio
Norfolk
Was going to post the same with Abbotsford and Grand Rapids switched. This works well too though.

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I suppose, looking at the grand scheme of things, this is how I'd do it....

Atlantic
Manchester Monarchs
Portland Pirates
Providence Bruins
St. John's IceCaps
Worcester Sharks

Northeast
Adirondack Phantoms
Albany Devils
Bridgeport Sound Tigers
Hartford Wolf Pack
Springfield Falcons

East
Binghamton Senators
Hershey Bears
Syracuse Crunch
Utica Comets
WBS Penguins

North
Abbotsford Heat
Hamilton Bulldogs
Lake Erie Monsters
Rochester Americans
Toronto Marlies

Midwest
Chicago Wolves
Grand Rapids Griffins
Iowa Wild
Milwaukee Admirals
Rockford IceHogs

South
Charlotte Checkers
Norfolk Admirals
Oklahoma City Barons
San Antonio Rampage
Texas Stars

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Someone suggested re-forming the Empire Division, so I came up with this:




East: Bridgeport - Hartford - Hershey - Norfolk - Wilkes-Barre

Empire: Adirondack - Albany - Binghamton - Rochester - Syracuse - Utica

Atlantic: Manchester - Portland - Providence - Springfield - Worcester

North: Grand Rapids - Hamilton - Lake Erie - St. John's - Toronto

West: Abbotsford - Charlotte - Oklahoma City - San Antonio - Texas

Central: Chicago - Iowa - Milwaukee - Rockford


To make a true 6-team Empire Division, you'll need a 4-team division somewhere for one year. I made the Central the 4-teamer. If they want to keep the conferences at 15 & 15, they can move Norfolk to the west (and re-name it the South), and move Abbotsford to the Central.
Im from St.John's and as funny as us in the North division,it truly anit out of wack,keep in mind St.John's played in the western conference and North Division up untill they left in 2005.Also St.John's played the western conference 16 times last year,while only playing its own division 24 times,(Toronto and Hamilton 8 each).If we were to move to the west id hardly be shocked

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