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EDM/WSH: Yakupov+2nd for Neuvirth+Kundratek+Laich

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04-22-2013, 01:12 PM
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EDM/WSH: Yakupov+2nd for Neuvirth+Kundratek+Laich

Caps are still thin at left wing, so they have to use a natural center at this position. Oilers have enough scoring depth to easily afford this trade. They get a No1 ready young goalie, a decent D prospect, and a very good versatile forward with excellent defensive and leadership qualities. Thoughts?

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I think Dubnyk is good enough to not give up Yakupov for a goalie

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Awful trade for the Oilers.

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Awful trade for the Oilers.
why awful? they often use Yak in third line with grinders, so he is redundant

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IS this serious? I would not even trade Yakupov for this offer alone and I am not a Oilers fan.
Neuvirth is not a serious #1 and wouldn't be a serious upgrade over Dubnyk. Kundratek is nothing special and I doubt he will be ever anything more than a #4 and Laich is a good but overpaid 2nd liner.

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why awful? they often use Yak in third line with grinders, so he is redundant
Remember when Boston traded Joe Thornton and Tyler Seguin when they had limited minutes as rookies?

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Very poor offer. No way does edmonton take it, although Laich would fill their 2nd line centre position rather nicely.

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lolllllllllllllllll No

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Caps would have to add but something around Neuvy + Laich + Pick(s) + Prospects may work .... with that said, nobody on the Caps boards thinks Laich will be moved.

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Normally trades have to work for both teams, not just the one you support

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IS this serious? I would not even trade Yakupov for this offer alone and I am not a Oilers fan.
Neuvirth is not a serious #1 and wouldn't be a serious upgrade over Dubnyk. Kundratek is nothing special and I doubt he will be ever anything more than a #4 and Laich is a good but overpaid 2nd liner.
Yakupov as an oiler is no more than 2nd liner too.

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Bad proposal imo and thats an understatement, dubnyk has decent numbers beyone popular belief and trading yakupov for another dubnyk and scraps makes no sense at all. Eberle would be gone before Yakupov most likely and thats no slight on ebs as i would want all of them to stay on the team.

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Yakupov as an oiler is no more than 2nd liner too.
Just like Malkin on the Pens, right?

Depth is a bad thing.

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What is funny to me is that Edmonton is adding a second, not Washington. As if the OP thought the package as was would be too much for Yakupov.

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Yakupov as an oiler is no more than 2nd liner too.
Malkin says hi....

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what!? No Kuznetsov?

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Caps are still thin at left wing, so they have to use a natural center at this position. Oilers have enough scoring depth to easily afford this trade. They get a No1 ready young goalie, a decent D prospect, and a very good versatile forward with excellent defensive and leadership qualities. Thoughts?
First off....Yakupov is a right-winger, so your left-wing is still lacking after the trade is made.

Secondly....Brooks Laich is a potential buy-out candidate. Kundratek hardly helps out the Oilers defensive woes and gets buried in by their upcoming D prospects. And Neuvirth isn't an upgrade on Dubnyk, who is one of the few bright spots on a disappointing Oilers team this year.

To sum it up, Edmonton would be adding salary trading a potential franchise forward while getting absolutely nothing of value to them back.

Lock it up.

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I think this is actually a pretty decent trade, only if Laich is healthy. Laich will be underappreciated by the EDM fans, but when healthy he's a guy that can play 2C, and he can log minutes on the PP, PK, or ES. EDM has a bunch of young guys with flash, but very little veteran presence and they're a soft team. Laich would provide some leadership and some needed grit.

I don't want to give up Kundratek. He's a very solid young defenseman who can move the puck and log time in any situation. But if we trade Kundratek and Laich, and then move Chimera and buy out Schultz we can resign Ribeiro and have a very good looking top 6.

Neuvirth is certainly an upgrade of Dubnyk. A fairly substantial upgrade at that. Neuvy will be a #1 next season.

I think we'd add another pick, not Edmonton. But I could see it working.

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Yakupov as an oiler is no more than 2nd liner too.
What the hell is your point? You do realize that it's his first year in the NHL and he's only 19 years old right? You also realize that his potential far outweighs having someone like Neuvirth and Brooks Laich? You must be clueless to think that he will remain the player he is right now for the rest of his career.

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What is funny to me is that Edmonton is adding a second, not Washington. As if the OP thought the package as was would be too much for Yakupov.
Caught my eye, too. For Yakupov and a 2nd, if I were Edmonton I would be asking for Backstrom and seeing how much more I had to add. I wouldn't even respond to the original deal on offer.

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why awful? they often use Yak in third line with grinders, so he is redundant
11 goals , 25pts in 44GP ..
Not bad for a 19 yo 3rd liner

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I think Edmonton should be looking to move either Yakupov or Eberle, but not for this package. Needs a better main piece coming back.

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Caught my eye, too. For Yakupov and a 2nd, if I were Edmonton I would be asking for Backstrom and seeing how much more I had to add without even responding to the original deal on offer.
You'd have to add a lot more for George not to hang up the phone before you finished saying Backstrom. He's a top 5 center in the NHL locked up long term on a reasonable cap hit.

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I think this is actually a pretty decent trade, only if Laich is healthy. Laich will be underappreciated by the EDM fans, but when healthy he's a guy that can play 2C, and he can log minutes on the PP, PK, or ES. EDM has a bunch of young guys with flash, but very little veteran presence and they're a soft team. Laich would provide some leadership and some needed grit.

I don't want to give up Kundratek. He's a very solid young defenseman who can move the puck and log time in any situation. But if we trade Kundratek and Laich, and then move Chimera and buy out Schultz we can resign Ribeiro and have a very good looking top 6.

Neuvirth is certainly an upgrade of Dubnyk. A fairly substantial upgrade at that. Neuvy will be a #1 next season.

I think we'd add another pick, not Edmonton. But I could see it working.
Please tell me how you come to this conclusion. Use reality as a basis please.

EDIT: As to the OP, that is a horrendous offer. But it seems the only logic being employed is that Yak should get off of the Oilers, so it is not surprising.

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No. We're not trading Yakupov for spare parts.

Would you give us your top prospect for Hemsky + Marincin + 2nd? Didn't think so

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