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Landeskog 125 84.46%
Zibanejad 19 12.84%
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04-20-2013, 05:39 PM
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I'll take Zib because he's a future all-star, playing on a team of future all-stars, who will likely win the cup until the world ends.
you're underrating both Zibenejad and the Ottawa Senators

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04-20-2013, 06:05 PM
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Ive watched the Sens and Z-Bad looks good but I think you guys are overrating him a bit.

Ill pay close attention again to tonight but Ive seen the impact Landy makes. His game can not be captured just by stats. If you gave me a choice between the two I take Landy

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04-20-2013, 06:26 PM
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All THE INTANGIBLES ARE BELONG TO LANDY!


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04-20-2013, 07:14 PM
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im a huge zibanejad fan but lando for sure. one more year of experience and in his rookie year .63 PPg. they could end up being the same type of player. but lando with more leadership qualities. love em both tho

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04-20-2013, 07:49 PM
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I'd pick Landeskog pretty easily at this point.
BUT I am incredibly impressed with Zibby, and its closer than I would have thought.

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04-20-2013, 08:04 PM
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All THE INTANGIBLES ARE BELONG TO LANDY!
But the moneymaker, the offense, goes to zibby.

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04-20-2013, 08:33 PM
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Landeskog AINEC. He is already one of the best, if not the best defensive winger in the game. He's stronger, equal offensively, miles ahead defensively and provides more leadership qualities.

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04-20-2013, 09:10 PM
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I recognize Sens wants want people to love the the big Iranian as much as they do but there's really no defending picking him above Landeskog. Landeskog has better goal scoring potential, likely similar offensive potential beyond that, but he's much more physical, could be the first winger to win the Selke since the apparent apartheid on defensive wingers winning the Selke began after Jere's last win and has those oh so often mentioned intangibles.

I've always been high on Zibanejad, thought he deserved to go top 10 long before it was a "mainstream" idea and always defended Zibanejad (And Schiefele for that matter) for going that high when there was other players dropping who people were high on, but this is Landeskog. Everyone should know that.

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04-20-2013, 10:10 PM
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Landeskog, not close.

Someone needs to start a Zibby v. Kadri thread.

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04-20-2013, 10:16 PM
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Landeskog AINEC. He is already one of the best, if not the best defensive winger in the game. He's stronger, equal offensively, miles ahead defensively and provides more leadership qualities.
Hossa blows him out of the water offensively, defensively, and everything in between. Hossa is just as deadly as he is defensively sound.
1. Hossa
2. Eriksson
3. Landeskog

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04-21-2013, 08:42 AM
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Landeskog.

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04-21-2013, 09:10 AM
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Leafs and Sens fans need to calm down and stop posting so many threads trying to get praise from other fan bases over their good half-seasons.

Landeskog was concussed this year, played six less games, has been bounced around every line, just got named captain, is in the middle of his sophomore season after winning a calder where everyone is aware of his abilities and has admittedly been down on himself for underperforming.

Yet he's not that far off from Zibanejad's current output. Landeskog being the better two-way player, leader and I'd argue goal scorer likely for the rest of their careers. Zibanejad may be good and having a solid debut for Ottawa, but he hasn't surpassed Lando in any way shape or form yet.

Comparing them to past Karlsson debates? Saying you want to bump this thread? Please, anyone arguing Zibs over Lando right now is reaching at minimum, might as well be blindfolded and pissing in the wind hoping it doesn't comeback to hit them in the face. IF Zibanejad ends up better, his play this season will not be any indication why it became that way, because he'll have hit an entirely separate level to beat Lando.

As of right now, Zibanejad looks more like a rookie O'Reilly than someone to surpass Landeskog.

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04-21-2013, 10:14 AM
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Leafs and Sens fans need to calm down and stop posting so many threads trying to get praise from other fan bases over their good half-seasons.

Landeskog was concussed this year, played six less games, has been bounced around every line, just got named captain, is in the middle of his sophomore season after winning a calder where everyone is aware of his abilities and has admittedly been down on himself for underperforming.

Yet he's not that far off from Zibanejad's current output. Landeskog being the better two-way player, leader and I'd argue goal scorer likely for the rest of their careers. Zibanejad may be good and having a solid debut for Ottawa, but he hasn't surpassed Lando in any way shape or form yet.

Comparing them to past Karlsson debates? Saying you want to bump this thread? Please, anyone arguing Zibs over Lando right now is reaching at minimum, might as well be blindfolded and pissing in the wind hoping it doesn't comeback to hit them in the face. IF Zibanejad ends up better, his play this season will not be any indication why it became that way, because he'll have hit an entirely separate level to beat Lando.

As of right now, Zibanejad looks more like a rookie O'Reilly than someone to surpass Landeskog.

You should check who started most of these "sens threads trying to get praise for a good half season". The Methot, Wiercioch and Silfverberg ones were started by an Oiler fan, and this one was by a Hawks fan. The only one started by a Sens fan was Zibanejad vs Couturier which was shortly after countered by a Zibanejad vs Schenn thread in a failed effort by a Philly fan to show that people voting Zibanejad only looked at point totals.

As far as Zibanejad's play right now, it actually give a lot of reason for optimism. He's been Ottawa's best forward on numerous nights, and really looks to have hit his stride about half way through the season.

I'm not sure he'll surpass Landeskog as I am pretty high on him, but I'm also not sure there is as much separating them as you think. Remember, this is Zibanejad's first year playing north american hockey, and he was always thought of as a longer term prospect.

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04-21-2013, 10:20 AM
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Leafs and Sens fans need to calm down and stop posting so many threads trying to get praise from other fan bases over their good half-seasons.
Try Oilers fans.

Or in this case, a Chicago fan.

Are you capable of reading?

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Landeskog, not close.

Someone needs to start a Zibby v. Kadri thread.
Don't forget Galchenyuk

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But the moneymaker, the offense, goes to zibby.
Landy is having a bad year on a team having a horrendous season and still has more goals than Z in fewer games. Last year Landy put up 52 points and 22 goals. Zibanejad wouldn't even come close to those kind of number in the NHL last year even if he played beyond his stint in which he was a non factor and even this year his ppg wouldn't amount to more than 45 points pro rated at 82 games. Not saying he doesn't have offensive output and upside but to say that Zibanejad has more offensive capabilities than Landeskog is just wrong, it's in favour of Landy by a slim margin. Once you factor in Landy's abilities away from the puck, physicality, and near elite defence Mika is no where near his level.

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Landeskog. Without a doubt.

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Leafs and Sens fans need to calm down and stop posting so many threads trying to get praise from other fan bases over their good half-seasons.
Checking the pool board

Poll: Landeskog vs Zibanejad Started by an Hawks fan (Sasso09)
Poll: Paajarvi or Silfverberg Started by an Oilers fan (lakai17)
Poll: Marc Methot or Ladislav Smid? Started by an Oilers fan (lakai17)
Poll: Patrick Wiercioch or Justin Schultz!? Started by an Oilers fan (lakai17)
Poll: Zibanejad vs. Couturier Started by an Sens fan (KarlssonnSchultz)

Not a shot at you im just getting tired of everybody calling out Sens fans when we don't start threads

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Checking the pool board

Poll: Landeskog vs Zibanejad Started by an Hawks fan (Sasso09)
Poll: Paajarvi or Silfverberg Started by an Oilers fan (lakai17)
Poll: Marc Methot or Ladislav Smid? Started by an Oilers fan (lakai17)
Poll: Patrick Wiercioch or Justin Schultz!? Started by an Oilers fan (lakai17)
Poll: Zibanejad vs. Couturier Started by an Sens fan (KarlssonnSchultz)

Not a shot at you im just getting tired of everybody calling out Sens fans when we don't start threads
You forgot this one
Poll: Zibanejad vs. Schenn Started by an Flyers fan (HyPnOtiK)

The funny part is that 2 of them were started in retaliation to peoples comments in the Couturier one; the above Schenn one and the Landeskog one.

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04-21-2013, 12:38 PM
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Hossa blows him out of the water offensively, defensively, and everything in between. Hossa is just as deadly as he is defensively sound.
1. Hossa
2. Eriksson
3. Landeskog
Prime Hossa yes, but I'd take Landeskog for now. Between him and Eriksson it's close, but I prefer Landy from pure defensive standpoint. Of course Hossa and Eriksson are 2x the players with the offensive discrepancy.

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Landy is having a bad year on a team having a horrendous season and still has more goals than Z in fewer games. Last year Landy put up 52 points and 22 goals. Zibanejad wouldn't even come close to those kind of number in the NHL last year even if he played beyond his stint in which he was a non factor and even this year his ppg wouldn't amount to more than 45 points pro rated at 82 games. Not saying he doesn't have offensive output and upside but to say that Zibanejad has more offensive capabilities than Landeskog is just wrong, it's in favour of Landy by a slim margin. Once you factor in Landy's abilities away from the puck, physicality, and near elite defence Mika is no where near his level.
Once Zibby got put on the 2nd line he has 17 pts 27 GP. Which is 52 points in 82 games, on a really low scoring team.

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Prime Hossa yes, but I'd take Landeskog for now. Between him and Eriksson it's close, but I prefer Landy from pure defensive standpoint. Of course Hossa and Eriksson are 2x the players with the offensive discrepancy.
Which pretty much proves you have no idea what you're talking about since Landeskog's defense this year wasn't all that good.

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04-21-2013, 01:08 PM
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Landeskog, and it's not even close. Some of these polls are ridiculous. What's next, Malkin or Colton Orr?

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Landeskogs rookie year saw him score 22 goals and 52 points. Now Zibbys stat line adjusted for an 82 game schedule would be 15 goals and 43 points, and thats not to say he goes on a hot streak or anything.

For his FIRST year of North American hockey considering the injury rattled season he had last year overseas and beginning of this year in the AHL (for those who want Landos concussion to be a factor, zibbys had 2 confirmed in a year)

I think they are definitely closer then people realize. Both 6'1 ish 205lbs, both have speed and strength and good offensive abilities. People like to determine players by their first 1-4 years in the league, which is a shame because some NHL hit their strides in season 5-9 if they make it that far..

For me its a toss up, we all know Landos good but we havent really seen enough of Zibby consistently to make that call. Who knows if Zibby didnt play in the CHL would he have been drafted higher thus looking like the better player? Time will tell.

PS: People saying Landos D and Offensive potential will always be better then Zibbys are wrong, you cannot predict this. Now yes, future? You have no crystal balls.

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But the moneymaker, the offense, goes to zibby.
Zibanejad is better offensively? How so? Landeskog has 67 career points in 114 games, points per game average of 0.59. Zibanejad has 21 in 46 games, ppg of 0.45. So how is Zibanejad better offensively again?

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