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04-23-2013, 12:33 PM
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Laughton wasn't even the best player on his team (Jenner) and guys like Scheifele, Monahan, McDavid, Trocheck are all better than him in the OHL (not NHL potential). Typical hyperbole from scouts.
You clearly must know more than professional scouts.

Typical hyperbole from a HF Poster

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04-23-2013, 12:35 PM
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You clearly must know more than professional scouts.

Typical hyperbole from a HF Poster
Laughton, according to many reports, was the best player on that Oshawa team this year. Yes a better player than Jenner. There's no reason to argue with him, by the looks of it he is a Pens fan and is trying to troll.

Yes, Lappy made up those reports too. For Christ sake, the Flyers run a proud franchise. The article was taken straight from the Flyers website. They won't produce fictitious material because they are coming off a poor season. Flyer fans understand these are bound to happen, we won't be out of contention for long. Any reasonable fan can see the injuries really derailed the team also. Yes, we might have relied on Couts and Schenn a little too heavily, but this team isn't a lottery team when healthy.

To say the Flyers fan base is "clamoring" to hear good news is off base. We know what we have in the system(besides a few prospects) we don't have much. The players we do think highly on though are good prospects. Not a "third line center at max" like you have said.


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04-23-2013, 12:41 PM
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Yes, Lappy made up those reports too. For Christ sake, the Flyers run a proud franchise. The article was taken straight from the Flyers website. They won't produce fictitious material because they are coming off a poor season. Flyer fans understand these are bound to happen, we won't be out of contention for long. Any reasonable fan can see the injuries really derailed the team also. Yes, we might have relied on Couts and Schenn a little too heavily, but this team isn't a lottery team when healthy.


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04-23-2013, 12:44 PM
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Nope i dont know him. Guess youre clueless though, huh. I dont have a dog in this fight, i just super irritated by the vast majority of Oiler fans and their crappy proposals and attitudes.


Seems to me this sounds like a bit of a contradiction my friend.

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04-23-2013, 02:29 PM
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yeah well your offering of Musil or Gernat is horrendous. They are lesser prospects than Scotty Laughty.
Gernat is, yes. Musil is not.

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Gernat is, yes. Musil is not.
Gernat has potential. Excellent size standing at 6'5

4G, 8A for the Oil Kings in the playoffs so far.

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Gernat has potential. Excellent size standing at 6'5

4G, 8A for the Oil Kings in the playoffs so far.
Gernat has potential, but he is years away from being an NHL'er, if he makes it at all. He's got the tools, but really needs to fill out. He's a good enough prospect, but nowhere near as good as Musil and Laughton simply because he has much more growth (in his game, not physically) before he is considered anything other than a long shot to make the NHL.

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Gernat has potential, but he is years away from being an NHL'er, if he makes it at all. He's got the tools, but really needs to fill out. He's a good enough prospect, but nowhere near as good as Musil and Laughton simply because he has much more growth (in his game, not physically) before he is considered anything other than a long shot to make the NHL.
Wow!

http://oilers.nhl.com/club/news.htm?id=666774

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I don't see what an Oilers press release does to change my analysis. He is years away. If nothing else than to put on some muscle. He needs to figure out how to use his height better. He has great skills, but mark my words, Gernat adjusting to pro hockey from junior won't be easy. He needs size, he needs to work on his skating and balance, and he needs better defensive coverage. He might be great, but he's at least three years away from being a decent NHL'er still. If he makes it at all. That's why we got him in the 5th round.

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04-24-2013, 07:58 AM
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yeah well your offering of Musil or Gernat is horrendous. They are lesser prospects than Scotty Laughty.
I agree that offering Musil or Gernat for Laughton is horrendous. It's one teams homerish lopsided proposal just as Laughton for Klefbom is another fan bases homerish proposal

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04-24-2013, 09:39 AM
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Laughton, according to many reports, was the best player on that Oshawa team this year. Yes a better player than Jenner.
Looking at the stats, seems that Jenner had a better regular season, while Laughton was better in the playoffs. Both look to be high quality prospects, so that doesn't change anything regarding this trade discussion between Flyers and Oilers fans.

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04-24-2013, 09:52 AM
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Laughton for Klefbom. That sounds like fictional characters in a goofy novel.

Can I throw in Grant Clitsome as trade bait for Scott Laughton?


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04-24-2013, 12:37 PM
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You have less than 250 posts here. How can you be so irritated by Oiler fans? I smell a banned account.
Nope. I started lurking HF at the 2007 draft but never bothered with making an account until recently. I still remember the uproar when Hickey was taken

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04-24-2013, 01:28 PM
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Laughton for Klefbom is actually a pretty reasonable deal, regardless of what is being discussed here.

i wouldn't do it though. contrary to most flyers fans opinions, i'd rather trade Couturier for a young defenseman with a similar ceiling and keep Laughton. I think he's more suited to be a 3rd line C than Couturier is, and Couturier won't ever reach his potential here behind Giroux and Schenn IMO.

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Schenn should be moved to the wing.

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Schenn should be moved to the wing.
I actually agree:

Schenn G Voracek
Hartnell Couts Simmonds
Gagne Laughton Read
McGinn Hall Rinaldo

I would like to see that line-up next year to start.

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Great lineup, although Talbot should be in McGinn's place.

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I don't like Schenn on the wing. He's proven to be much more effective at C, he's been tried on the wing periodically since last season to little avail.

That might change perhaps if he were to be there from the start of the season in a prolonged role, but I'm not so sure.

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I don't like Schenn on the wing. He's proven to be much more effective at C, he's been tried on the wing periodically since last season to little avail.

That might change perhaps if he were to be there from the start of the season in a prolonged role, but I'm not so sure.
I am on board with you. Too many Flyer fans put him on the wing. DO they remember how ineffective he was when he was on the wing? His natural position is the pivot, keep him there.

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I agree that offering Musil or Gernat for Laughton is horrendous. It's one teams homerish lopsided proposal just as Laughton for Klefbom is another fan bases homerish proposal
Except an Oilers fan proposed it first.

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Laughton wasn't even the best player on his team (Jenner) and guys like Scheifele, Monahan, McDavid, Trocheck are all better than him in the OHL (not NHL potential). Typical hyperbole from scouts.
I am an Oiler fan and who cares about a scouting report that was done a few years ago . Some players become more then scout expect others that scouts think are can miss become busts . We need to focus on what his value is today , i think it pretty simple . Eberle was passed over by 21 teams so we should trade him for a lower value because of his draft or scouting report ? No it is his current value

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I am on board with you. Too many Flyer fans put him on the wing. DO they remember how ineffective he was when he was on the wing? His natural position is the pivot, keep him there.
Eh, it's not like Schenn got an extended audition there. He didn't click with Giroux, but Giroux wasn't exactly setting the world on fire durign the first few games either. More importantly, Schenn's start came on his off-wing, which is arguably an even more significant transition.

I'm not sure we can really count the periodic experiments lats year--when he and Briere were doing the weird positional-zone swap thing.

Anyway, long-term, there's only so much ice-time, and something has to give with Giroux, Schenn, Couturier, and Laughton.

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Except an Oilers fan proposed it first.
Ya... I hear he's a good guy.... just craps a little too close to the house.

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So if Laughton plays next year in the NHL where does he play. PHI is pretty deep with young fwds. Would make sense to trade Schenn or Courtier for a good dman. Mind you Courtier had a really bad year this year.

I would rather keep Klefbom. He was drafted later in the draft but has improved a lot since his draft year.

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Klefbom for Laughton is fair. However, as an Oiler fan I wouldn't do it until I see where we end up drafting. If we are in a position to take Monahan or Barkov the deal makes little sense.
If you're in a position to take Monahan, it means you can also pick Nurse, Zadorov, Pulock and Ristolainen.

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