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Draft day: move up, move down or stand pat?

View Poll Results: What would you do with the first-rounder on draft day?
Move up if we don't win the division, stand pat otherwise 6 8.33%
Move up if we don't win the division, move down otherwise 2 2.78%
Move up if we don't make the ECF/SCF, stand pat otherwise 3 4.17%
Move up if we don,t make the ECF/SCF, move down otherwise 1 1.39%
Move up if we make the ECF/SCF, stand pat otherwise 7 9.72%
Stand pat if we don't win the division, move down otherwise 1 1.39%
Stand pat if we don't make the ECF/SCF, move down otherwise 1 1.39%
Stand pat no matter what 46 63.89%
Trade for a player/players 5 6.94%
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04-21-2013, 05:47 PM
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I think we should stand pat, add to already impressive prospect pool.

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04-21-2013, 05:50 PM
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Easy answer would be to stand pat....unless there's a big unexpected faller that comes our way. Shouldn't happen so stand pat and you will have quality AND quantity.....and a goalie!

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04-21-2013, 05:53 PM
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If we can give up one of our seconds only, then move up. Often, there is a big difference in talent between 25 and say 13.

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04-21-2013, 05:54 PM
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Nah we're fine where we are. The only way I'd consider moving up would be if we could ship off extra forward depth we don't necessarily need (one of Gionta, Bourque, Desharnais)

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04-21-2013, 05:59 PM
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Very honest I'll be disappointed if we don't move up. Bergevin needs to make a statement on draft day
The statement has been made since the start of the 2013 season, have you been living under a rock?

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04-21-2013, 06:00 PM
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I would stay Pat.

But if my name is Richard then i'd stay Richard.







But i dont know if i'd stay Fred if my name is Fred tho... i'd really have to think that one over.






...slooow day huh?

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04-22-2013, 01:16 AM
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I think you have your list and if there's someone you think is really special, you move up if you can. I'd be surprised if they keep all those picks. I can see moving a 2nd and 3rd for a better 2nd or something. They've done that before and gotten guys before (Tinordi, for example) they had an eye on.

I think when you have that many picks you're going to look at organizational needs and although this is a deep draft and you're bound to get 6 good prospects, you might be able to really address some needs by moving up to grab with you really want, as opposed to the best of what's left.

Needs...
Big, gritty forwards
High end scorers
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04-22-2013, 01:31 AM
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Stand pat and let Timmins work his magic. Six picks in the top 90? TT will have a field day.

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04-22-2013, 02:06 AM
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trade it with something else for Byfuglien

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04-22-2013, 02:10 AM
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I don't get how you guys can say if we should stand pat or trade up without even knowing how the draft is going to unfold... It's all about our prospects list.

Let's say the prospect ranked #5 on our list is still available at #20 (unlikely... but you'll get my point). I'm pretty sure they'll consider trying to move up in order to get him. It all depends on how it unfolds again.

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trade it with something else for Byfuglien
OH man Byfuglien is tempting, but unless it's ridiculous value we would need to pass.

Just for fun, say we trade a 2nd+someone for Buff.

Markov-Byfuglien
Gorges-Subban
Tinordi-Diaz
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(never gonna happen though )

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04-22-2013, 04:40 PM
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Is there any one goalie you guys would want to use a pick in the first three rounds for?

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04-22-2013, 04:46 PM
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if Timmins tells bergevin he should move up a few spots to grab x player,Marc will.If Trevor tells him to stick with our current picks,Marc will.

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pretty much this. whatever TT needs.

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04-22-2013, 04:51 PM
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Trade up for Nichushkin, if he falls out of the top 10 !

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I don't get how you guys can say if we should stand pat or trade up without even knowing how the draft is going to unfold... It's all about our prospects list.

Let's say the prospect ranked #5 on our list is still available at #20 (unlikely... but you'll get my point). I'm pretty sure they'll consider trying to move up in order to get him. It all depends on how it unfolds again.
I agree, and I don't think there's much else to add to your point. It just depends. The Habs didn't have to trade up to get Collberg. They safely traded down to get their man in Fischer (despite how the pick turned out, the draft day strategy worked). They've got chips to play with this year.

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Is there any one goalie you guys would want to use a pick in the first three rounds for?
Fucale if he is there with our 1st rounder.

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04-23-2013, 12:35 AM
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move up no matter what is my answer.


We have a stupid amount of picks and could easily use some of them to move up considerably.

another top 5 pick would be nice.

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move up no matter what is my answer.


We have a stupid amount of picks and could easily use some of them to move up considerably.

another top 5 pick would be nice.
Teams in the top 5 aren't going to drop down 20 spots no matter how many picks you give up.

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move up no matter what is my answer.


We have a stupid amount of picks and could easily use some of them to move up considerably.

another top 5 pick would be nice.
What WTK said.

But I think I get what you're saying, if you mean: package a bunch of picks to make sure the Habs draft a guy who's very high on their list. As in, a scenario where a player ranked by consensus in the 10-15 range happens to be 5 on Timmins' list, and a team picking in that range is willing to trade down. Sure, spend the picks, and give Timmins and his staff the benefit of the doubt that the Habs ended up with a top 5 prospect in the draft but fewer 2nd round picks.

Actually, it could be an interesting discussion. Timmins' list, by what we've learned from fuzzy pictures taken by RDS on draft day, tends to have certain prospects ranked significantly higher than the consensus published scouting reports. Some examples include Galchenyuk supposedly at 1st overall, McDonagh at 7th, Leblanc at 10th or even higher. Never mind Pacioretty and his 2nd rounders.

So, what prospects from this year's draft are good candidates to rank much higher on Timmins' list than what we could expect from going by the consensus rankings?

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04-23-2013, 09:23 PM
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Some people in this thread don't appreciate the value of a top pick, especially when all you are offering is draft picks in return. Trading up for Drouin... never going to happen.

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Would you have traded Galchenyuk for a 25th pick and 2 2nds? Poser la question c'est y répondre.

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04-23-2013, 09:47 PM
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Depends where we finish in the standings, depends what's left... I wouldn't mind moving down and get an additionnal pick in the process...

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I think there will be more movement than usually concerning draft position this year. With the short season some good teams played way below average. They may covet NHL ready players more than a 2 year development plan.

Still, i dont see the habs getting up any higher than about #15. That being said, if there is a player they really covet around that point and giving up a 2nd is what it takes, go for it. We have that luxury this year with our quantity of picks.

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04-23-2013, 09:57 PM
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Trade up for Nichushkin, if he falls out of the top 10 !
This is one of the only types of trading up I would support. Grabbing a guy falling for prejudicial reasons with huge upside.

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This is one of the only types of trading up I would support. Grabbing a guy falling for prejudicial reasons with huge upside.
Being a puck-hog is prejudicial

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