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Ranger Prospect Poll - #3

View Poll Results: Prospect #3
Dawes 3 4.29%
Jessiman 25 35.71%
Balej 5 7.14%
Immonen 8 11.43%
Korpikoski 4 5.71%
Montoya 23 32.86%
Kondratiev 2 2.86%
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04-27-2005, 03:15 PM
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Ranger Prospect Poll - #3

#1 Prospect - Hendrik Lundqvist - Lundqvist today shutout team Slovakia with 31 saves in a WC exhibition game. Slovakia has players like Gaborik, Hossa, Demitra, Satan, Pálffy, Chara, Zedník, and Handzuš.

#2 Prospect- Fedor Tyutin - I think it was fairly obvious Fedor would have won round 2. Can't wait to see him back next year.

Now we will probably be getting some votes on a variety of choices.

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04-27-2005, 03:22 PM
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BTW, here is the lineup that Lundqvist faced:

1st Line:
HOSSA - DEMITRA - NAGY
LINTNER - CHARA

2nd Line:
PALFFY - STÜMPEL - SATAN
STEHLIK - GRANAK

3rd Line:
GABORIK - STEFANKA - ZEDNIK
MAJESKY - SUCHY

4th Line:
ORSZAGH - PUCHER - BARTECKO
OBSUT - VYDARENY


G:
25. LASAK, Jan
31. STANA, Rastislav

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Jessiman.

I was never as high on Montoya as everyone else seemed to be.

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Voted for Montoya, but it's really a toss-up between him and Jessiman. Both guys have high ceilings, but neither has improved their stock since they've been drafted. I gave Al my vote since he is a goalie and elite goaltending is harder to come by.

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Voted for Montoya, but it's really a toss-up between him and Jessiman. Both guys have high ceilings, but neither has improved their stock since they've been drafted. I gave Al my vote since he is a goalie and elite goaltending is harder to come by.

So are big power forwards. The last one we had was Adam Graves. And he played alot bigger than his size. Jessiman is already 6'5 220. When he makes his NYR, I think he will be about maybe 6'6 240 or so. That is my guess. Or is that too much??

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I went with Al

For some reason I just do not have a good feeling about Jessiman and I'm a big fan of college prospects.

I hope I'm wrong.

I would also rank Dawes ahead of Jessiman right now.

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I picked Jessiman for the opposite reason I picked Tyutin. I think that a BIG first-line power-forward is an extremely rare thing, so if he lives up to his potential, I think he's a very valuable and rare asset for the Rangers, the likes of which only a few teams really have.

Montoya has proven more and the smart money would have been to vote for him (actually, the more I think about it, the more I wish I had voted for him -- too late now, I'll stick with my decision). What I like about Montoya is that, even when he has had an off season, like this season, he was still winning. That's difficult for a goalie.

It wouldn't be the world's biggest shock to see Immonen make it farther than either of them in the end.

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Jessiman and Montoya are hard to choose between. Jessiman has more potential (both have a lot). But I'd still say Montoya is more of a lock to be a solid player. I'll take Al.

I'm very surprised Immonen is getting such a high number of votes. I think hes the obvious choice after Montoya and Jessiman, but no sooner.

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#1 Prospect - Hendrik Lundqvist - Lundqvist today shutout team Slovakia with 31 saves in a WC exhibition game. Slovakia has players like Gaborik, Hossa, Demitra, Satan, Pálffy, Chara, Zedník, and Handzuš.

#2 Prospect- Fedor Tyutin - I think it was fairly obvious Fedor would have won round 2. Can't wait to see him back next year.

Now we will probably be getting some votes on a variety of choices.
decided to skip the Czech, let Roberto take that one.

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Voted Huge specimen

next added for voting should be Prucha

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Oh yeah, I would add Prucha to the next poll.

I'm surprised to see how many votes Immonen is getting.

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Jessiman. Add Prucha

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For some reason I just do not have a good feeling about Jessiman and I'm a big fan of college prospects.

I hope I'm wrong.

I would also rank Dawes ahead of Jessiman right now.

Same here.

Al is still a good goalie, people can criticize this season but he'll shake it off, he still has the great skill, athleticism, demeanor, etc.

Hugh is a tossup, no idea how he'll play or how far this injury sets back a guy who was already a project.

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I would also rank Dawes ahead of Jessiman right now.
I wouldn't. I know size isn't a determinant of one's skill, but Dawes is going to have to overcompensate to overcome his size in the NHL.

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I think by the time this poll is up we might aswell give the loser of the Montoya/Jessiman race the next spot, theres a big vote difference already.

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I voted Dawes. It amazes me why he only has 3 votes............what else does a guy have to do in his league? If this is a right now poll then right now Dawes is the next best prospect.

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I would personally take Korpikoski over Immonen. Jarkko is 23, and could be a solid 2nd line center. Korpikoski has the potential to be more of a heart and soul player with 1st/2nd line talent. He's also been a big game player. Immonen is a nice prospect, but I feel Korpi is more valuable.

I went with Montoya here. He has shown he can play great on a big stage. He did suck at the last WJC but we still know he can do it. Jessiman had a great freshman year, mediocre sophmore year, then got hurt. He may be a future Power Forward, but to me Montoya seems like a pretty easy pick here despite the mediocre season.

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I wouldn't. I know size isn't a determinant of one's skill, but Dawes is going to have to overcompensate to overcome his size in the NHL.

you know size isn't a detriment, why then would he have to overcompensate for it?

I'm confused by the statement.

I think I know what you are trying to say, but I don't think that it came out right.


Yes, size is going to be a factor in his future, but he's been this size his whole life yet he's still scoring.

Theo Fleury had size issues as well and he went on to have a nice career while his head was on straight.

Dawes is a very similar type player in his scoring ability and chippy play.

I think it's going to be easier for Dawes to adjust to the NHL and his size issues than it will for Jessiman and his size issues seeing as how he's not really learned how to use it properly.

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you know size isn't a detriment, why then would he have to overcompensate for it?
He said size isn't a determinant, not detriment. Size is definately a detriment.

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Jarkko is 23, and could be a solid 2nd line center.
Like Jessiman and Montoya, I didn't see the kind of season out of Korpo that I needed to in order to rate him above Jarkko.

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Damn the Jessiman/Montoya race is close. My vote was for Jessiman, but Montoya was right behind.

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I think we need a Montoya/Jessiman poll as a tiebreaker.

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Like Jessiman and Montoya, I didn't see the kind of season out of Korpo that I needed to in order to rate him above Jarkko.
Yea, but it was his first year in a mens league so you couldn't have expected that much statistically. The positives are that he was probably the best Finnish forward in the WJC along with Nokkelainen. He also turned it on in the playoffs apparently getting more ice-time. To me he either stays the same or slightly rises. Montoya is ahead of him I'd agree. I'd say he should be higher ranked then Immonen, and right with Jessiman. I see them as neck and neck personally.

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Wow...

I'm the only one that voted for Kondratiev...guess I should explain myself:

Jessiman dropped down a few notches for me solely because he lost the year. This was a crucial year to show something, and he was hurt all year.

Montoya, who I'm still pretty high on, disappointed at a big showing and had numbers that were off from the previous year, albeit possibly because the team in front of him wasn't that great. Still, the WJCs pushed him down slightly for me.

Kondratiev, in my opinion in the limited action I saw, could be better, and may be a safer 'pick' than Tyutin. I thought I saw a steady defenseman with decent size, skates well and moves the puck well as well as plays intelligently. Tyutin I see as having a fair amount of inconsistencies in his game. Of course, this is in very limited action, and Kondratiev is a bit older, which may not be fair, so perhaps I am going with the safer pick. Tyutin has higher upside, I think, but I think the safeness in Kondratiev does it for me.

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