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04-18-2013, 01:01 PM
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Ryan Sproul - OHL Defenseman of the Year

Absolutely deserved. His development has really accelerated over the past year. Over ripe jokes aside, how soon until we see him full-time with the Wings?

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"He's not good enough defensively, bury in AHL until right before he must clear waivers to get called up/sent down Cory Emmerton"

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Absolutely deserved. His development has really accelerated over the past year. Over ripe jokes aside, how soon until we see him full-time with the Wings?
Depends on how long it takes him to grab hold of something.

Like Holland's neck.

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His defensive side is likely to keep in the AHL for two years. This won't be an overripe case so much as he does really need to work on that part of his game. Really wish Blashill was playing him right now in Grand Rapids.

Keep in mind though if Babcock is around, Sproul is massive and can really skate, that might help since we all know Babcock is a size queen.

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Depends on how long it takes him to grab hold of something.

Like Holland's neck.
I LOL'ed at this

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Can't wait to see him in 2017.

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Can't wait to see him in 2017.
Honestly... that is pretty realistic projection.

13-14 in AHL
14-15 the same
15-16 gets some games
16-17 roster spot.

I'm excited about this kid but want to see how his D handles pro hockey.

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Absolutely deserved. His development has really accelerated over the past year. Over ripe jokes aside, how soon until we see him full-time with the Wings?
I've been a big fan ever since he was drafted. It's been amazing to watch his development. If the Wings miss out on the playoffs - a real possibility at this point - I'd like to see guys like Sproul be given a shot. Yes, he needs to work on his defensive play. But the slow as molasses deferment pipeline hasn't worked so well for guys like Smith. Plus we need an elite offensive defensemen and Sproul is the only guy who fits the bill right now.

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Who is he competing against for CHL defenseman of the year?

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"He's not good enough defensively, bury in AHL until right before he must clear waivers to get called up/sent down Cory Emmerton"
With this player, at this point in time, that is exactly what should happen. Sproul will likely need 2-3 years to round out his defensive play.

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Who is he competing against for CHL defenseman of the year?
He put up similar numbers to Dougie Hamilton in terms of his production and clip he did it at. He was very deserving of this award.

Sproul = 1.32 point per
Hamilton = 1.28 point per

Obviously the difference comes in their own end, but just to give you a feel of just how impressive his offense was at that level. Better goal scoring clip as well.

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He put up similar numbers to Dougie Hamilton in terms of his production and clip he did it at. He was very deserving of this award.

Sproul = 1.32 point per
Hamilton = 1.28 point per

Obviously the difference comes in their own end, but just to give you a feel of just how impressive his offense was at that level. Better goal scoring clip as well.
Yeah, but who won the QMJHL and WHL defenseman of the year?

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Honestly... that is pretty realistic projection.

13-14 in AHL
14-15 the same
15-16 gets some games
16-17 roster spot.

I'm excited about this kid but want to see how his D handles pro hockey.
I agree, I think next year he's going to have a down offensive year as he adjusts to having to play defence at pro speed. Right now I think I've read that his defence is just average for the OHL/CHL, maybe a year similar to Joe Morrow. Then in 14-15 he plays much better and we see his offense come more into play as he is used to the speed and will be able to better anticipate the plays. I'd also like to see him work at this using his monster frame to his advantage, either along the boards or by being more aggressive in front of the net. In 15-16 he'll be either the 1st, 2nd or 3rd call up for defence, it'll depend on who gets hurt and if Ouellet/Backman are in the NHL.

This is in my opinion and I think it's a best case scenario. I could see Sproul having a very rough first 2 years as his defence is very rough around the edges. The good thing is that he has all the tools to become either average or above average defensively while being above average or Elite offensively. At 6'4 he has the size and reach that will make effective at defending off the rush and he's also a great skater so if he can learn the defensive game he shouldn't get beaten very often.

It could be anywhere from 2.5-5 years before we see him on the Wings roster, it all depends on how he adjusts to the pro game and if he can learn to play adequately enough that his offensive ability outweighs his defensive gaffs.


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Yeah, but who won the QMJHL and WHL defenseman of the year?
Don't think either league has announced as of yet.

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Don't think either league has announced as of yet.
The WHL has named two finalists for the award according to their site.

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WHL Defenceman of the Year, Bill Hunter Memorial Trophy
Eastern Conference – Morgan Rielly (Vancouver, BC), Moose Jaw Warriors
Western Conference – Brenden Kichton (Spruce Grove, AB), Spokane Chiefs
http://www.whl.ca/article/lowry-name...-year-finalist

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The recipients of all WHL individual awards will be announced at the 2013 WHL Awards Luncheon, which will be held in Calgary, Alberta, on Wednesday, May 1, 2013.

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The WHL has named two finalists for the award according to their site.



http://www.whl.ca/article/lowry-name...-year-finalist

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Was going to guess Rielly will win. I think Mathieu Brisebois is most likely in the Q, maybe Gagne?

Kitchon did have a big offensive year though.

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am i wrong that kichton was undrafted in his 1st draft year, and then attended training camp here?

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Here's a list of other recipients of the award. Some "who?" names and some all-star names in there. So let's hope for the best with this kid. Wouldn't mind a Pronger!

201213 Ryan Sproul, Sault Ste Marie Greyhounds
201112 Dougie Hamilton, Niagara IceDogs
201011 Ryan Ellis, Windsor Spitfires
200910 Jake Muzzin, Sault Ste. Marie Greyhounds
200809 Ryan Ellis, Windsor Spitfires
200708 Drew Doughty, Guelph Storm
200607 Marc Staal, Sudbury Wolves
200506 Andrej Sekera, Owen Sound Attack
200405 Danny Syvret, London Knights
200304 James Wisniewski, Plymouth Whalers
200203 Brendan Bell, Ottawa 67's
200102 - Eric Reitz, Barrie Colts
200001 Alexei Semenov, Sudbury Wolves
199900 John Erskine, London Knights
199899 Brian Campbell, Ottawa 67's
199798 Chris Allen, Kingston Frontenacs
199697 Sean Blanchard, Ottawa 67's
199596 Bryan Berard, Detroit Whalers
199495 Bryan Berard, Detroit Junior Red Wings
199394 Jamie Rivers, Sudbury Wolves
199293 Chris Pronger, Peterborough Petes
199192 Drake Berehowsky, North Bay Centennials
199091 Chris Snell, Ottawa 67's
198990 John Slaney, Cornwall Royals
198889 Bryan Fogarty, Niagara Falls Thunder
198788 Darryl Shannon, Windsor Spitfires
198687 Kerry Huffman, Guelph Platers
198586 Jeff Brown, Sudbury Wolves; Terry Carkner, Peterborough Petes
198485 Bob Halkidis, London Knights
198384 Brad Shaw, Ottawa 67's
198283 Al MacInnis, Kitchener Rangers
198182 Ron Meighan, Niagara Falls Flyers
198081 Randy Boyd, Ottawa 67's
197980 Larry Murphy, Peterborough Petes

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I should punch myself in the face. I think I saw 2 of the 3 Whalers home games vs. the Soo this season. I never knew to look for Sproul! Paterson of the Spirit I did watch for and Athanasiou for the Colts I did see as well. Very stupid of me.

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Honestly... that is pretty realistic projection.

13-14 in AHL
14-15 the same
15-16 gets some games
16-17 roster spot.

I'm excited about this kid but want to see how his D handles pro hockey.
i think its more like this

13-14 AHL with 2-4 NHL games played
14-15 AHL with about 12-16 NHL games played
15-16 NHL with about 55 games played, rest in the AHL
16-17 82 NHL games played

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I should punch myself in the face. I think I saw 2 of the 3 Whalers home games vs. the Soo this season. I never knew to look for Sproul! Paterson of the Spirit I did watch for and Athanasiou for the Colts I did see as well. Very stupid of me.
He might have been out with his broken arm.

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i think its more like this

13-14 AHL with 2-4 NHL games played
14-15 AHL with about 12-16 NHL games played
15-16 NHL with about 55 games played, rest in the AHL
16-17 82 NHL games played
Lol, not a chance.

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Lol, not a chance.
I bet that's what you thought about Lashoff last year.
but really if he has a hot offensive start and an injurys hit he could get a call up

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I bet that's what you thought about Lashoff last year.
but really if he has a hot offensive start and an injurys hit he could get a call up
Imo there would have to be a lots of injuries.

Ouellet, Marchenko maybe Almqvit are ahead of him in the depth chart imo. Maybe Jensen if he comes.

That's on top of the 600 Dman we have on our roster.

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