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07-25-2013, 01:32 AM
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Pretty interesting...

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didn't realize that others were so in on Lucic early on. Things could have gone really sour in 2006...

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Damn, we could have had Joey Ryan AND Robin Figren ...


... how the heck can we get these Lucic and Marchand bums off the team and get some quality names like Ryan and Figren

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Wow. Thanks for posting these. Good reads.

I shutter to think what this team would look like had the Kings ended up drafting Lucic at 48 and the Isles drafting Marchand at 70. The B's were lucky but also did their due diligence as they had one of the best drafts a team could hope for that year and was the starting point for the team we see now. (You could probably go back the the Bergy and Krejci draft years as well, just goes to show what a sad state our drafting has been in lately)

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Almost always take the best player even if you're loaded there.

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No doubt Chia's scouting staff would have picked other guys. 06 was our last good draft.

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No doubt Chia's scouting staff would have picked other guys. 06 was our last good draft.
And no doubt you were dancing with joy over Marchand, who spent two more years in junior and a year and a half in the AHL.

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thanks, Colt. Good finds.

Also, been meaning to tell you that your new avatar is pretty sick.

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Thx Colt, good finds for sure

Just goes to show that EVERY team makes draft choices where they probably look back and kick themselves. Some here think ONLY the Bruins have missed out on player A,B or C, not saying this team has been a draft monster but I do get frustrated when fans here play the "we could have had" game.

I actually think that the best indications of a strong scouting job is a draft pick who is chosen and developed into an NHL`er after the 1st round

I think that this scouting crew seem to be relatively strong at identifying later picks, and really solid at finding lesser known players and develop them after aquiring from other teams (Quaider/Boychuk).

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And no doubt you were dancing with joy over Marchand, who spent two more years in junior and a year and a half in the AHL.

But everyone else we've drafted has done nothing in their first years!

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Bruins players who didn't get selected 1st overall could have been picked up by other teams? I'm shocked.

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It is interesting, because it is always interesting to see just how much interaction the players have with the teams before a draft. kind of weird to think you would expect to go late second to one of 2 or 3 team, or late 3rd to one of 3 teams.

It also shows again how we may sit at home and complain, why did they draft that guy there, they could have gotten him 2 rounds later, but really the teams also are very aware of who is on the player they are looking at and where they think the other team is likely to jump on them.

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This made the think about fighting with Kirk back in the day that Marchand would be better than Lucic and with his speed and agitating he'd bring more than some fighter who needed to be sent back to jr to develope his hands and skating more.

Glad I was wrong on Lucic and it took 3 years but Marchand at least has redeemed me a little lol

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Thx Colt, good finds for sure

Just goes to show that EVERY team makes draft choices where they probably look back and kick themselves. Some here think ONLY the Bruins have missed out on player A,B or C, not saying this team has been a draft monster but I do get frustrated when fans here play the "we could have had" game.

I actually think that the best indications of a strong scouting job is a draft pick who is chosen and developed into an NHL`er after the 1st round

I think that this scouting crew seem to be relatively strong at identifying later picks, and really solid at finding lesser known players and develop them after aquiring from other teams (Quaider/Boychuk).




Matt Kalman has a good article about building a team. While he starts out with a look at the Bruins drafting in the wake of the Wayne Smith firing, he finds that drafting is only part of the equation. Using draft picks in trades and free agent acquisitions (Krug, Svedberg, etc.) are important overall.

He also compared the Bruins draft record in recent years with the other top teams who have lower draft picks and found that they haven't done better than the Bruins. Here's a quote from Matt:

The best organizations in hockey combine drafting and development with savvy trades and intelligent free-agent signings. They hit on a lot more of their signing and re-signings than they miss out on. The Bruins are in that class.

Worth reading: http://boston.cbslocal.com/2013/07/2...hls-top-teams/

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Matt Kalman has a good article about building a team. While he starts out with a look at the Bruins drafting in the wake of the Wayne Smith firing, he finds that drafting is only part of the equation. Using draft picks in trades and free agent acquisitions (Krug, Svedberg, etc.) are important overall.

He also compared the Bruins draft record in recent years with the other top teams who have lower draft picks and found that they haven't done better than the Bruins. Here's a quote from Matt:

The best organizations in hockey combine drafting and development with savvy trades and intelligent free-agent signings. They hit on a lot more of their signing and re-signings than they miss out on. The Bruins are in that class.

Worth reading: http://boston.cbslocal.com/2013/07/2...hls-top-teams/
Good find, as usual. Thanks for the link.

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Bruins players who didn't get selected 1st overall could have been picked up by other teams? I'm shocked.

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The forecheck and hitting of a Lucic-Kopitar-brown line, my goosh that would be one of the best lines in hockey, wow!

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Matt Kalman has a good article about building a team. While he starts out with a look at the Bruins drafting in the wake of the Wayne Smith firing, he finds that drafting is only part of the equation. Using draft picks in trades and free agent acquisitions (Krug, Svedberg, etc.) are important overall.

He also compared the Bruins draft record in recent years with the other top teams who have lower draft picks and found that they haven't done better than the Bruins. Here's a quote from Matt:

The best organizations in hockey combine drafting and development with savvy trades and intelligent free-agent signings. They hit on a lot more of their signing and re-signings than they miss out on. The Bruins are in that class.

Worth reading: http://boston.cbslocal.com/2013/07/2...hls-top-teams/
Hadn`t seen that one, thanks Alan as always

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Love Marchand's attitude.

First thing he's thinking about after getting drafted was how he was going to beat the guys drafted ahead of him. That guy's competitiveness is off the charts.

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thanks Alan. interesting stuff.

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Great reads all. I disagree a little on the "drafting policy" outlined though. With the Cap in place I think a team has to look at things like team weaknesses (holes), ages of players verses positions, potential salaries, and possible future trades. When making my draft list I will take the BPA if that players is heads above the rest. If not, I look at team needs and select by position. I think that development is more important than potential. A Player is drafted at 17. They aren't fully grown or matured and will go through a lot of changes. IMO, THE BRUINS have done a decent job of drafting although lesser of late. Again, great reads.

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didn't realize that others were so in on Lucic early on. Things could have gone really sour in 2006...
I like you're new avatar.

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Good reads, Colt.

I wonder where Marchand and Looch would have gone knowing what we know now.

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all articles where good read's I thank all posters that post articles here . Thanks

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Good reads, Colt.

I wonder where Marchand and Looch would have gone knowing what we know now.

Off the top of my head, they would both be top 5 contention ...

1- Toews
2- Backstrom
3- Kessel
4- Lucic
5- J. Staal
6- Marchand

with the possibility of Lucic going higher considering how rare he is.
Erik Johnson is the big dropper of the group.

The weird thing is that Boston passed over both in the 2nd round to take a total bust in Alexandrov in #37.

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Would have to take claude giroux top 3 too... but boston had one hell of a draft getting 3 of the top 8 guys

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