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05-06-2013, 11:29 AM
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Just a question here as I could be off on this but how many games need to be played in a year for it to be considered the players rookie year?
http://www.nhl.com/ice/page.htm?id=24931

To be eligible for the award, a player cannot have played more than 25 games in any single preceding season nor in six or more games in each of any two preceding seasons in any major professional league. Beginning in 1990-91, to be eligible for this award a player must not have attained his twenty-sixth birthday by September 15th of the season in which he is eligible. The latter fact was perhaps most prominent when in 197980, first-year phenom Wayne Gretzky was not eligible to win the Calder Trophy despite scoring 137 points (the previous rookie record at the time being 95), because he had played a full season in the World Hockey Association in 1978-79.

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05-06-2013, 11:30 AM
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Screw the Calder. Just more bonuses we would have to give out AMIRITE

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05-06-2013, 11:33 AM
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http://www.nhl.com/ice/page.htm?id=24931

To be eligible for the award, a player cannot have played more than 25 games in any single preceding season nor in six or more games in each of any two preceding seasons in any major professional league. Beginning in 1990-91, to be eligible for this award a player must not have attained his twenty-sixth birthday by September 15th of the season in which he is eligible. The latter fact was perhaps most prominent when in 197980, first-year phenom Wayne Gretzky was not eligible to win the Calder Trophy despite scoring 137 points (the previous rookie record at the time being 95), because he had played a full season in the World Hockey Association in 1978-79.
Yeah, thanks, I thought more games than that were allowed in a previous season.

But still a long list of Oilers with solid rookie seasons that got overlooked.

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05-06-2013, 11:40 AM
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Do pro hockey writers watch hockey?

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05-06-2013, 11:43 AM
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Yeah, thanks, I thought more games than that were allowed in a previous season.

But still a long list of Oilers with solid rookie seasons that got overlooked.
There are a few, but early on our players were losing to real good players as well.

Losing to a guy who is top 10 in scoring in the league I can handle. Losing the guys that Yak will lose to this year I can't. But I doubt that ever changes. Is the writers association mainly comprised of guys from Eastern North America? Until that's changed it will be the same crap every year.

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05-06-2013, 11:48 AM
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Yeah as long as they are on early in an easter time zone.

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05-06-2013, 11:48 AM
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Willis has a pretty damning article up over at Oilersnation comparing Yakupov to Saad. What irks me the most though is that two of the nominees play in the East and Yakupov and Brodin in the West got snubbed. I can't remember another time in Awards voting where the eastern bias was this blatant.


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05-06-2013, 11:49 AM
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This is good for Yak. Didn't get nominated for the Calder and didn't even get invited to the WC.
He will use these things as motivation for next season and prove all of the haters wrong.

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05-06-2013, 12:03 PM
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As a Habs fan, I have to agree that it seems wrong for Yakupov to not be nominated in the top 3. I am glad Gallagher made it, I think Huberdeau deserved to be there. There ARE reasons for liking Saad, but I believe Yakupov should have been in the top 3. Sorry for Oilers fans on this one.

Of course, I do believe Gallagher deserves to win it...

In all honesty, I think a strong case could be made for Galchenyuk to have been in the top 3, as well. I agree with most, though. It is better for a team if the player does not win the Calder so that it is one less point in the player's favour when it comes time to negotiate a contract.

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05-06-2013, 12:04 PM
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As a Habs fan, I have to agree that it seems wrong for Yakupov to not be nominated in the top 3. I am glad Gallagher made it, I think Huberdeau deserved to be there. There ARE reasons for liking Saad, but I believe Yakupov should have been in the top 3. Sorry for Oilers fans on this one.

Of course, I do believe Gallagher deserves to win it...

In all honesty, I think a strong case could be made for Galchenyuk to have been in the top 3, as well. I agree with most, though. It is better for a team if the player does not win the Calder so that it is one less point in the player's favour when it comes time to negotiate a contract.
It should have been Gally, Yak, and Brodin.

Brodin should have won it.

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05-06-2013, 12:05 PM
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This is good for Yak. Didn't get nominated for the Calder and didn't even get invited to the WC.
He will use these things as motivation for next season and prove all of the haters wrong.
I think Nail will shrug it off and keep training. That's what I love about him.

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05-06-2013, 12:22 PM
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For me it's not so much that Yak isn't nominated, but more that Yak isn't nominated over Huberdeau. Who really knows what criteria is used.

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05-06-2013, 12:27 PM
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For me it's not so much that Yak isn't nominated, but more that Yak isn't nominated over Huberdeau. Who really knows what criteria is used.
Yakupov should win the thing, nevermind be nominated. NHL awards are a joke.

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05-06-2013, 12:30 PM
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I wonder if someone knows the last time a rookie forward with the highest goals/points totals wasn't even nominated.

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05-06-2013, 12:34 PM
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I bet if a poll was done on the voters reasons for his absence from the top 3, his celly would be the top negative factor. Listening & reading alot of the eastern voters, they all dissed it big time. As others have said, Yakapov should now have motivation to make the eastern swing from now on.

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05-06-2013, 12:35 PM
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Any idea who is on the writer's list or where it could be found?

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05-06-2013, 12:51 PM
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I wonder if someone knows the last time a rookie forward with the highest goals/points totals wasn't even nominated.
The last time this happened was in 1950-1951. REg Sinclair.

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05-06-2013, 12:53 PM
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I don't care as much that Yakupov didn't get nominated as I do that Brandon Saad did.

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05-06-2013, 12:54 PM
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yak lit up the league in the last 3 games--take those 5 games away yak stats drop big time. He goes from 17 goals to 11

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05-06-2013, 12:56 PM
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Sure but he still put up points in more games then hub... he was also fairly consistent getting points in i believe 25+ of 48 games...

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05-06-2013, 12:56 PM
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Yak didn't get nominated? Loooooooooool.

Congrats to Saad for calling shot gun at the beginning of the year and riding the season along with Kane and Toews.

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05-06-2013, 12:57 PM
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It should have been Gally, Yak, and Brodin.

Brodin should have won it.
You spelled Ryan Suter wrong.

Yakupov SHOULD have won it.

Edit: Wrong Sutter


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05-06-2013, 12:59 PM
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You spelled Ryan Sutter wrong.

Yakupov SHOULD have won it.
Ryan Sutter?

And I don't think Yakupov SHOULD have won it; that's up to Brendan Gallagher, imo. But Saad for sure doesn't deserve to be nominated. Sorry.

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05-06-2013, 01:02 PM
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You spelled Ryan Sutter wrong.

Yakupov SHOULD have won it.
So did you

You are right though. Saad and Brodin both ran shot gun with stars, Yak played with a boat anchor.

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yak lit up the league in the last 3 games--take those 5 games away yak stats drop big time. He goes from 17 goals to 11
Huberdeau got 3 points in each of the first and last games of the season, and 4 points in the 16th game of the season. So he really had 10 points less than Yakupov...

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