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Hurricanes Off Season Thread: When Tlusty doesn't score 40, who will be to blame?

View Poll Results: When Tlusty doesn't hit 40 next year, whose fault will it be?
Eric Staal's Leadership 16 5.80%
Kirk Muller's Coaching 4 1.45%
Patrick Eaves' Shoe Collection 25 9.06%
Defense 5 1.81%
Lack of depth everywhere 5 1.81%
Special Teams 3 1.09%
No team toughness 10 3.62%
JR needs to go!!! 5 1.81%
NO FLAGS AT CENTER ICE!?! 203 73.55%
Voters: 276. You may not vote on this poll

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06-29-2013, 09:13 PM
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Seguin is available.... any interest?

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06-29-2013, 10:27 PM
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Well that's something I can see jr do, not sure how the money would work. I could see jr trading the pick outright for him if we had room.

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06-29-2013, 11:18 PM
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5th overall selection has a cap hit of about 3.2M to 3.4M already... 5.75M not that much more I guess

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06-29-2013, 11:23 PM
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Most of that cap hit for the 5th pick is potential bonuses, though, most of which are next to impossible to hit. It would be a substantial increase in base salary, from ~1M/yr to 5.75M/yr. We can't afford that.

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06-30-2013, 02:20 AM
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Well that's something I can see jr do, not sure how the money would work. I could see jr trading the pick outright for him if we had room.
do you really think so? i wouldn't object to a straight trade for the 5th, as a matter of fact i'd prefer it. but not for seguin imo.

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06-30-2013, 07:22 PM
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CAPGEEK.COM USER GENERATED ROSTER
My Custom Lineup
FORWARDS
Jiri Tlusty ($1.600m) / Eric Staal ($8.250m) / Alexander Semin ($7.000m)
Jeff Skinner ($5.725m) / Jordan Staal ($6.000m) / Tuomo Ruutu ($4.750m)
Drayson Bowman ($0.600m) / Jeremy Welsh ($0.850m) / Patrick Dwyer ($0.900m)
Kevin Westgarth ($0.725m)
DEFENSEMEN
Joni Pitkanen ($4.500m) / Tim Gleason ($4.000m)
Andrej Sekera ($2.750m) / Justin Faulk ($0.900m)
Jay Harrison ($1.500m) /
GOALTENDERS
Cam Ward ($6.300m)
Justin Peters ($0.538m)
OTHER
Buyout: Derek Joslin ($0.125m)
RETAINED SALARY TRANSACTIONS (1.400% of upper limit)
Jussi Jokinen ($0.900m—0.3%)
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CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS (follow @capgeek on Twitter)
(these totals are compiled with the bonus cushion)
SALARY CAP: $64,300,000; CAP PAYROLL: $57,912,500; BONUSES: $10,000
CAP SPACE (17-man roster): $6,397,500

Looking ahead.

No Lindholm on capgeek yet. Figure Brett Sutter and Bellemore at 600k. Murphy at 1.3m

I guess Rask or a UFA at forward will finish us out.

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06-30-2013, 07:29 PM
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JR on retooling the D: As we speak we would potentially have three new guys on D (Sekera, Murphy, Bellemore) …we'll continue to listen, look

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JR: The urgency's not there as much, since we got Sekera.

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06-30-2013, 07:36 PM
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Cory Lavalette ‏@corylav 42s
JR on retooling the D: As we speak we would potentially have three new guys on D (Sekera, Murphy, Bellemore) …we'll continue to listen, look

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JR: The urgency's not there as much, since we got Sekera.
CAPGEEK.COM USER GENERATED ROSTER
My Custom Lineup
FORWARDS
Jiri Tlusty ($1.600m) / Eric Staal ($8.250m) / Alexander Semin ($7.000m)
Jeff Skinner ($5.725m) / Jordan Staal ($6.000m) / Tuomo Ruutu ($4.750m)
Drayson Bowman ($0.600m) / Jeremy Welsh ($0.850m) / Patrick Dwyer ($0.900m)
Kevin Westgarth ($0.725m)
DEFENSEMEN
Joni Pitkanen ($4.500m) / Tim Gleason ($4.000m)
Andrej Sekera ($2.750m) / Justin Faulk ($0.900m)
Jay Harrison ($1.500m) / Ryan Murphy ($1.313m)
Brett Bellemore ($0.600m) /
GOALTENDERS
Cam Ward ($6.300m)
Justin Peters ($0.538m)
OTHER
Buyout: Derek Joslin ($0.125m)
RETAINED SALARY TRANSACTIONS (1.400% of upper limit)
Jussi Jokinen ($0.900m—0.3%)
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CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS (follow @capgeek on Twitter)
(these totals are compiled with the bonus cushion)
SALARY CAP: $64,300,000; CAP PAYROLL: $59,825,833; BONUSES: $460,000
CAP SPACE (19-man roster): $4,934,167

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06-30-2013, 07:41 PM
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I'd dress a roster of:

Tlusty/Staal/Semin
Rask/Staal/Ruutu
Skinner/Lindholm/Dwyer
Blanchard/Nash or Welsh/Westgarth
Bowman

Pitkanen/Faulk
Sekera/Gleason
Harrison/Murphy
Bellemore

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Peters



Unless something else comes up.

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07-01-2013, 01:13 AM
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Anyone know Osala's contract length in the KHL. His name randomly popped in my head. I know we've had this discussion of him being the ideal 4th liner for Muller (or maybe even better) several times in the past but have forgotten what the consensus was.

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07-01-2013, 04:56 AM
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Anyone know Osala's contract length in the KHL. His name randomly popped in my head. I know we've had this discussion of him being the ideal 4th liner for Muller (or maybe even better) several times in the past but have forgotten what the consensus was.
One more year IIRC.

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07-01-2013, 07:14 AM
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07-01-2013, 07:17 AM
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Pretty much.

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We need Dadonov more than Osala.

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07-01-2013, 07:27 AM
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Dadonov has 1 more year on his contract with Donbass of the KHL


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07-01-2013, 07:29 AM
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We need 14 forwards better than Osala or Dadonov

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07-01-2013, 12:59 PM
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FWIW, Gregory Hoffman was unable to reenter the draft due to Switzerland failing to sign the transfer agreement. He remains Carolina property. For how long I am unsure, but there was an insinuation that Carolina would attempt to sign him again after the upcoming season.

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07-01-2013, 02:30 PM
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FWIW, Gregory Hoffman was unable to reenter the draft due to Switzerland failing to sign the transfer agreement. He remains Carolina property. For how long I am unsure, but there was an insinuation that Carolina would attempt to sign him again after the upcoming season.
Now that is great news. I hope he's beefed up a little, but if I recall his game was about speed and edge....even with his slight frame.

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07-01-2013, 03:18 PM
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Now that is great news. I hope he's beefed up a little, but if I recall his game was about speed and edge....even with his slight frame.
Elite skater. No qualms about saying Elite either. He's one of the best skaters in the world for his age. On the advice of a friend I looked up some of his tape and it's ridiculous. He's raw, but with that particular skill being so coveted in the NHL it would shock me to not see him up here one day if the other parts of his game round into form.

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So what are the chances we can bring him into the organisation?

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If JR is willing to bring him back, I would say very high.

But I could also see JR being so ******** over this that he refuses to give him a shot.

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07-01-2013, 04:38 PM
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Drafting Lindholm makes it seem like rolling with 3 scoring lines is a very foreseeable scenario. I wouldn't mind seeing all three of the Euros signed to NHL contracts to experiment with.

Needless to say, they would rather stay in Europe than take the chance of being stuck in Charlotte on a two way contact.

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Tlusty - E. Staal - Semin
Skinner - J. Staal - Lindholm
Rask/Terry/FA - Ruutu - Dwyer
Sutter/Blanchard/Welsh - Nash - Westgarth/UFA scrub

Pitkanen - Faulk
Sekera - Gleason
Harrison - Murphy
Bellemore/FA

Ward
Ellis

PP 1
Skinner - E. Staal - Semin
Faulk - Pitkanen

PP 2
Tlusty - J. Staal - Lindholm
Murphy -

PK 1
J. Staal - Dwyer
Sekera - Faulk

PK 2
E. Staal - Tlusty
Harrison - Gleason

PK 3
The Rested Staal - Semin
The Rested PK Pairing

Yes, Ruutu is making a gazillion dollars to center the third line with limited to no special teams ice time but I don't care. That's JR's fault. Maybe experiment with switching Lindholm and Ruutu

I am Kirk Muller and I approve this message.

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07-02-2013, 10:27 AM
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http://www.canescountry.com/2013/7/2...ze-draft-picks

Great article that touches on some of our discussions over the weekend. How we waste picks, and examples when we did it and the reasons. Jr should be held accountable overall no dubt, I've always hated how he does this.

I still stand behind the sekera trade overall, it was needed. Questionable decisions previously made put us in the position to be exasperated that such moves are needed.

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07-02-2013, 10:40 AM
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GM Jim Rutherford said Canes will make qualifying offers to RFAs Nash, Dalpe, Boychuk, Jordan and Jared Staal.


Not qualified:

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No qualifying offers to Jenks, Nodl, Krueger, Pither, Sova and Muse.


Pither is somewhat of a surprise. Didn't he play fairly well?



Samson and Wallace also free agents:

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UFAs Jerome Samson and Tim Wallace will go into free agency, Rutherford said.

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