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Trade Rumours and Proposals Thread: What WILL Mac-T do with the pick?

View Poll Results: What will the Oilers do with the pick?
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05-06-2013, 04:25 PM
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Like who?

I don't think there will be many bidders on Smith because of the goalie market. He will not get what he is probably worth. McDonaugh has taken a step back this year. If Gagner finished off strong you could make a case for 4.5 but he didn't. Not sure about anyone else.. Torres is 31, anyone giving more than 2 might regret it but yes, he probably could get more. Bickell I thought was being generous.
Why on earth would Smith want to sign in Edmonton duelling with Dubnyk when Calgary will probably offer more money and no competition for the starter position?

Toronto may also be looking for a bonafide starter. (they seem up and down with Reimer every season). Maybe Florida.

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05-06-2013, 04:46 PM
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Smith is probably about right(can see Calgary offering more), no way LA does that trade as those two are important pieces and they wouldn't want hemsky at 5, gagner will probably be wanting more money and term, the McDonough trade might be reasonable but have to assume we need to add more.

I might have exaggerated but I believe you would have to be lucky to have any of the four big moves happen an even luckier for all four of them to happen.
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Why on earth would Smith want to sign in Edmonton duelling with Dubnyk when Calgary will probably offer more money and no competition for the starter position?

Toronto may also be looking for a bonafide starter. (they seem up and down with Reimer every season). Maybe Florida.
Why on earth would we want Smith? Unless we are getting a substantial upgrade over Dubnyk, which Smith is not, then we need to find a cheaper option who can keep his head above water for 25 games. We can't spend 8+ million dollars on 2 "1B" goalies in a declining cap world.

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05-06-2013, 04:49 PM
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Why on earth would we want Smith? Unless we are getting a substantial upgrade over Dubnyk, which Smith is not, then we need to find a cheaper option who can keep his head above water for 25 games. We can't spend 8+ million dollars on 2 "1B" goalies in a declining cap world.
Personally I don't want smith. Was just responding to his series of transactions. I agree with you and I believe dubnyk is capable of being our number one if we surround him with an at least league average d corps

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05-06-2013, 04:54 PM
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Why on earth would we want Smith? Unless we are getting a substantial upgrade over Dubnyk, which Smith is not, then we need to find a cheaper option who can keep his head above water for 25 games. We can't spend 8+ million dollars on 2 "1B" goalies in a declining cap world.
100% agree need to find a backup under $2m for sure, also not sold Smith would be near the same goalie outside PHX he is there.


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05-06-2013, 04:59 PM
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I'm legitimately mad that the Oilers desperately need a No.2 D-man and the guy we need isn't available at the moment. I hope someone is willing to deal someone good later on.

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05-06-2013, 05:19 PM
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Why on earth would we want Smith? Unless we are getting a substantial upgrade over Dubnyk, which Smith is not, then we need to find a cheaper option who can keep his head above water for 25 games. We can't spend 8+ million dollars on 2 "1B" goalies in a declining cap world.
Agreed 100%. Its like once MacT announced "bold moves", it was an excuse for whatever pipedream fantasy GMS could think of.

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05-06-2013, 05:21 PM
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I'm legitimately mad that the Oilers desperately need a No.2 D-man and the guy we need isn't available at the moment. I hope someone is willing to deal someone good later on.
Hemsky, Marincin and the 38th pick for Brian Campbell at the draft. Then budget accordingly.

Just because those guys aren't available on the UFA market, it doesn't mean they aren't somewhere else.

Weber is what you'd call a pipedream. And a pretty lousy one at that when you see the kind of **** we're apparently giving up for him.

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05-06-2013, 05:34 PM
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Hemsky, Marincin and the 38th pick for Brian Campbell at the draft. Then budget accordingly.

Just because those guys aren't available on the UFA market, it doesn't mean they aren't somewhere else.

Weber is what you'd call a pipedream. And a pretty lousy one at that when you see the kind of **** we're apparently giving up for him.
I like Campbell, but him and his 7.14M salary shouldnt really cost that much. Seems steep.

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05-06-2013, 05:37 PM
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Hemsky, Marincin and the 38th pick for Brian Campbell at the draft. Then budget accordingly.

Just because those guys aren't available on the UFA market, it doesn't mean they aren't somewhere else.

Weber is what you'd call a pipedream. And a pretty lousy one at that when you see the kind of **** we're apparently giving up for him.
I like Campbell but not with his cap hit and for sure not with Marincin in that deal.

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05-06-2013, 05:41 PM
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Marincin needs to stay, IMO he's our #2 prospect behind Klefbom. Unless we get a further along version of Marincin on a reasonable deal it makes little sense to move him.

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05-06-2013, 05:41 PM
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I like Campbell but not with his cap hit and for sure not with Marincin in that deal.
He has a NTC and refused to waive it when on CHI until FLA called (and Talon who signed him was on the phone).

I'm willing to bet he wouldn't waive it for EDM

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05-06-2013, 06:06 PM
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Not sure if posted here, but I read a trade that is supposedly in 'the works' and I like it for us - involves Phoenix and is as follows:

To Phoenix
1st round pick (7th)
2nd round pick (not sure which one but lets say the 37th)
Ales Hemsky
David Musil

To Edmonton
Phoenix's first pick (12th overall were we take Curtis Lazar)
Henrick Samuelsson (whom we wanted really bad and had a deal for him if Phoenix didn't pick him)
Keith Yandle.

Anyone else hear something like this? Not sure if Phoenix would do it but who knows?

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05-06-2013, 06:12 PM
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Not sure if posted here, but I read a trade that is supposedly in 'the works' and I like it for us - involves Phoenix and is as follows:

To Phoenix
1st round pick (7th)
2nd round pick (not sure which one but lets say the 37th)
Ales Hemsky
David Musil

To Edmonton
Phoenix's first pick (12th overall were we take Curtis Lazar)
Henrick Samuelsson (whom we wanted really bad and had a deal for him if Phoenix didn't pick him)
Keith Yandle.

Anyone else hear something like this? Not sure if Phoenix would do it but who knows?
I would totally do that in a heartbeat.

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05-06-2013, 06:14 PM
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Not sure if posted here, but I read a trade that is supposedly in 'the works' and I like it for us - involves Phoenix and is as follows:

To Phoenix
1st round pick (7th)
2nd round pick (not sure which one but lets say the 37th)
Ales Hemsky
David Musil

To Edmonton
Phoenix's first pick (12th overall were we take Curtis Lazar)
Henrick Samuelsson (whom we wanted really bad and had a deal for him if Phoenix didn't pick him)
Keith Yandle.

Anyone else hear something like this? Not sure if Phoenix would do it but who knows?
Do you have a link to this rumour?

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05-06-2013, 06:15 PM
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Not sure if posted here, but I read a trade that is supposedly in 'the works' and I like it for us - involves Phoenix and is as follows:

To Phoenix
1st round pick (7th)
2nd round pick (not sure which one but lets say the 37th)
Ales Hemsky
David Musil

To Edmonton
Phoenix's first pick (12th overall were we take Curtis Lazar)
Henrick Samuelsson (whom we wanted really bad and had a deal for him if Phoenix didn't pick him)
Keith Yandle.

Anyone else hear something like this? Not sure if Phoenix would do it but who knows?
Source? I'd do that hands down.

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05-06-2013, 06:24 PM
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Not sure if posted here, but I read a trade that is supposedly in 'the works' and I like it for us - involves Phoenix and is as follows:

To Phoenix
1st round pick (7th)
2nd round pick (not sure which one but lets say the 37th)
Ales Hemsky
David Musil

To Edmonton
Phoenix's first pick (12th overall were we take Curtis Lazar)
Henrick Samuelsson (whom we wanted really bad and had a deal for him if Phoenix didn't pick him)
Keith Yandle.

Anyone else hear something like this? Not sure if Phoenix would do it but who knows?
I would jump on this, but don't see Phx agreeing to it at all.

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05-06-2013, 06:25 PM
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Not sure if posted here, but I read a trade that is supposedly in 'the works' and I like it for us - involves Phoenix and is as follows:

To Phoenix
1st round pick (7th)
2nd round pick (not sure which one but lets say the 37th)
Ales Hemsky
David Musil

To Edmonton
Phoenix's first pick (12th overall were we take Curtis Lazar)
Henrick Samuelsson (whom we wanted really bad and had a deal for him if Phoenix didn't pick him)
Keith Yandle.

Anyone else hear something like this? Not sure if Phoenix would do it but who knows?
Even though I'm not a fan of Yandle I'd do that in a heartbeat. Don't think there's a chance Phoenix does that though.

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05-06-2013, 06:38 PM
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Not sure if posted here, but I read a trade that is supposedly in 'the works' and I like it for us - involves Phoenix and is as follows:

To Phoenix
1st round pick (7th)
2nd round pick (not sure which one but lets say the 37th)
Ales Hemsky
David Musil

To Edmonton
Phoenix's first pick (12th overall were we take Curtis Lazar)
Henrick Samuelsson (whom we wanted really bad and had a deal for him if Phoenix didn't pick him)
Keith Yandle.

Anyone else hear something like this? Not sure if Phoenix would do it but who knows?
If you posted this proposal on the trade forums Phoenix fans would say it's not even enough for Yandle. Let alone a top prospect and there 1st.

Before you guys post proposals swap spots and ask yourself, would I trade these assets for the players I'm offering if I was a fan of the other team? I guarantee we'd see a lot less of this junk.

Try

Yandle
Samuelsson

for

Gagner
1st
Musil

You got to give to get. Hemsky holds virtually zero value and the difference between Yandle + Hemsky isn't 5 spots in the first round and a second round pick.

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Not sure if posted here, but I read a trade that is supposedly in 'the works' and I like it for us - involves Phoenix and is as follows:

To Phoenix
1st round pick (7th)
2nd round pick (not sure which one but lets say the 37th)
Ales Hemsky
David Musil

To Edmonton
Phoenix's first pick (12th overall were we take Curtis Lazar)
Henrick Samuelsson (whom we wanted really bad and had a deal for him if Phoenix didn't pick him)
Keith Yandle.

Anyone else hear something like this? Not sure if Phoenix would do it but who knows?
A) Yes please!
B) Even according to your sourceless post, this is "in the works," so even if this trade was ever uttered by a GM, it would probably shake out a bit differently to be more equal (you'd have to think).

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Edit: nvm, bad idea. Don't want to start that.

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Was the Fistric thing posted?

Matheson saying Oilers offered a three year, 1.5M per deal to Fistric but he wants 2M per year.

Fistric is a good physical guy but I would probably let him walk to UFA to be honest.

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Hemsky, Marincin and the 38th pick for Brian Campbell at the draft. Then budget accordingly.

Just because those guys aren't available on the UFA market, it doesn't mean they aren't somewhere else.

Weber is what you'd call a pipedream. And a pretty lousy one at that when you see the kind of **** we're apparently giving up for him.
I'd be all for Campbell with the short term he's got left, but it would be tough to part with Marincin. With the amount we've got committed to forwards, we need some non-1st overalls on ELCs to fill out our roster. Marincin (and hopefully Monahan) are key to that.


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He has a NTC and refused to waive it when on CHI until FLA called (and Talon who signed him was on the phone).

I'm willing to bet he wouldn't waive it for EDM
Pretty sure once a NTC is waived, it is as good as gone. Lubo waived his to leave Edmonton, then tried to resist getting moved to NYI, but had no choice in the matter.

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Was the Fistric thing posted?

Matheson saying Oilers offered a three year, 1.5M per deal to Fistric but he wants 2M per year.

Fistric is a good physical guy but I would probably let him walk to UFA to be honest.
I like him for 1.5-1.7.. That allows us to cut ties with Peckham.

Also, it doesn't look like Teubert is going to work out either, so we need this type of player.

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Was the Fistric thing posted?

Matheson saying Oilers offered a three year, 1.5M per deal to Fistric but he wants 2M per year.

Fistric is a good physical guy but I would probably let him walk to UFA to be honest.
I would probably give him 2m for 1 yr, but for a 3 yr deal 1.75M would be where I would max out.

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05-06-2013, 08:31 PM
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Was the Fistric thing posted?

Matheson saying Oilers offered a three year, 1.5M per deal to Fistric but he wants 2M per year.

Fistric is a good physical guy but I would probably let him walk to UFA to be honest.
They can settle it for 1.8m, Sutton money. As long as they actually play him though...

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