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Will we ever see a Swedish player score 1400 points in the NHL?

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05-01-2013, 06:44 PM
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He's not 35. He's 33 and hit 40 points in 48 games this year. If he plays till 40 he'll get it.
gah. i screwed that up.

Then yeah, Thorton is likely the closest to a lock to get to 1400 IMHO.

Still will be difficult for him.

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05-01-2013, 06:54 PM
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Anyone have the list of active all-time players and their current ave ppg handy?

Seems 1400 is going to be tough for anyone rather than just limiting to Swedes.

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05-01-2013, 07:34 PM
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Ovechkin is the only one who might reach 1400 points from the current list of active NHLers. None of the Swedes are closer, or were more prolific than Sundin, So the answer in my mind is a RESOUNDING no.
Look at how snipers age, and I thinks that it is more likely that Backstrom gets to 1400 points than AO. The smart playmaker types typically stay productive much later in their careers.

I think 1400 points is a huge bar to cross in today NHL. Need to combine crazy skills, longevity and health which is a tough combination.

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05-02-2013, 03:21 AM
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Backstrom injury prone? Not counting the concussion from Bourque, he's missed 5 games in 6 seasons.

1400 may be a stretch even if he was like most ontario boys and never sat a game for an injury, but I would think 1200 isn't that far-fetched.

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05-02-2013, 06:06 AM
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Look at how snipers age, and I thinks that it is more likely that Backstrom gets to 1400 points than AO. The smart playmaker types typically stay productive much later in their careers.

I think 1400 points is a huge bar to cross in today NHL. Need to combine crazy skills, longevity and health which is a tough combination.
Selanne was considered a sniper, and he aged just fine. At least since he got his knees operated. AO could easily do the same kind of transition to a playmaker.

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I think Backstrom can do it, if there Are no serious injuries or lockouts.

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I agree with Backstrom being only realistic hope currently.

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05-02-2013, 08:25 AM
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No, a Swedish player getting more than 1399 points would create a tear in the space-time continuum and bright forth the end of the universe.

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05-02-2013, 09:44 AM
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Kinda a silly question. Only 19 players have scored 1400+ points; you need a generational talent combined with extraordinary health and good luck to not get cheap-shot injured.

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I don't see it happening. The Sedins are too old, Zetterberg too. And Backström is too injury prone.

The only way it could happen, is if Mats Sundin comes out of retirement and returns to Toronto...
what makes you think Mats would come out of retirement

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05-02-2013, 09:50 AM
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what makes you think Mats would come out of retirement
He's not, he's saying it's the only way that there would be a Swedish player with 1400 points since no one else is likely to get close.

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Selanne was considered a sniper, and he aged just fine. At least since he got his knees operated. AO could easily do the same kind of transition to a playmaker.
"Could" make that transition? Sure - it's possible, but if you expand the sample size to bigger than one guy, you find that most snipers tend not to "age" as well as playmakers do historically. Sure - there are outliers, and some guys with really high hockey IQ's are able to transition their games, but that's not AO to me. I wouldn't want to count on winning the Powerball because someone did it last week. And I realize that's a big stretch analogy wise - but look at what happened to a guy like Peter Bondra.

I'm a big AO fan, but I think that the way the game is currently played makes it very unlikely that any current player makes it to 1400 points.

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05-03-2013, 01:10 AM
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I don't see it happening. The Sedins are too old, Zetterberg too. And Backström is too injury prone.

The only way it could happen, is if Mats Sundin comes out of retirement and returns to Toronto...
Mikael Backlund will do it.

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05-03-2013, 09:54 AM
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how many players have done it who wouldnt play a single game at 80's?

well. jags and salami. thats all!

to be fair...

Howe (last season 80)
Espo (81)
Mikita (80)

so there are 5 guys in NHL history. not such a shame if there are any swedes yet.

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Kinda a silly question. Only 19 players have scored 1400+ points; you need a generational talent combined with extraordinary health and good luck to not get cheap-shot injured.
Just my $.02 - but the big difference is the way the game is played currently compared to the 80-90's. While all amazing players, I wouldn't consider Ron Francis, Mark Recchi, Doug Gilmour, or Dale Hawerchuk to be generational talents. They were lucky enough to play in a period of time when scoring was much higher. If their careers were starting right now, there is likely no way that they'd make it to 1400 points (possible exception - Francis).

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05-03-2013, 10:25 AM
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They would likely need a few 100+ point seasons in the next few years to cover for declining point totals later (which they are capable of doing).

H. Sedin is at 792. Lets say over the next 8 years he gets the following totals:
100
100
90
85
75
60
60
40

That is 630, which brings him to 1422.

But it is still very close and absolutely depends on him producing near Art Ross numbers for the next couple of years, and being a PPG player until he is 36. Plus one major injury could really make things tough--especially if in the prime years where he needs to build up those high totals.
You're saying Hank will be a top 5 scorer in the league for 4-5 consecutive years? Don't know about that.

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If Kuznetsov turns out to be the real deal I could see Backstrom getting 82-100 points a season.

Ovechkin will be around too, so that won'thurt.

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No one's gonna score 1400 points with the league locking out every 8 years.

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Going to be difficult in this low-scoring environment.

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Landeskog will do it.

Next season.

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